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Dude, all of this is perfectly normal. The bus speed varies a bit from 200-204mhz. Also it has turbo boost and it boosts itself when needed to 4.2GHz I believe. I'd suggest you attempt to OC your CPU a bit because 4.4GHz is the sweet spot for this CPU. I got running my 8320 @ 4.3GHz on stock voltage without turbo boost. If you don't want to raise voltage just try to squeeze the maximum clock on stock voltage as the CPUs are a bit overvolted out of the factory. PM me if you want to know more, got even the same board. ;)

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Hello Glorious PC Community!

 

I'm having a bit of an unusual scenario with my PC. I just have to say right now, I'm not a guru like everyone else is when it comes to building PC's. So keep it easy on me  :P

 

Also. so far I haven't had any sort of problems with my system like instability or slowdowns but I just want to get some opinions from the community if I should be even concerned of what's happening to my system.

 

First of all I have the following: 

 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P (rev 1.0)

CPU: AMD FX-8350 @ stock speeds (strangely I can't find the product page from AMD's own website for this specific moded, but I'm guessing you know this chip already coz it's an old timer :P )

Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120v AIO

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB (4GBx2) @ 1600 Mhz 8-8-8-24

GPU: ASUS Strix R9 285

PSU: Corsair VS650

SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB (the old "faster" model)

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500GB Sata II (yes, an old drive. recycled from an old PC :D )

 

Needless to say, this isn't the fastest rig ever but it definitely gets the job done.

I have this rig for almost two years now, well except the GPU. It used to be a HD 7730.

 

Now the "problem":

 

Suddenly a few days ago, I booted up my machine, for my routine browsing and gaming. I fired up Task Manager out of habit to monitor my resource usage, and to my surprise the "Maximum Speed" detected by Windows is 4.02 GHz.I checked and it seems that it's indeed so. You can also see that CPU-Z detects a small increase in TDP - 125.2 W. That was just 125 before. Don't know how that's related but there you go.

 

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I checked the BIOS / UEFI and I think i got the "culprit". The BLCK Frequency is running at slightly higher than normal speeds - @ 201 Mhz instead of the normal 200 Mhz for this Chip. And with the Normal Multiplier, that would indeed result in a 4.02 GHz frequency. But what you will also see, is that I'm running everything at AUTO, which means I'm not overclocking the chip. This may raise the question why am I using an AIO. Well, its because I want to run my system as quiet as it can and be cool as possible as well.

 

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Okay, as I've said before, I have no errors, no BSODs, no detactable hiccups so far. Cinebench can complete its run. Prime 95 can burn the chip in without errors for an hour.

 

I tried dialing-in the frequencies manually, just to try if it can be forced to run at the "normal" speeds again, but it still runs at an unusual speed of 4.02 GHz

 

What do you think caused this, the motherboard or the CPU? and should I be concerned?  would this be indicative of a failing component like the motherboard maybe?

I have to be honest, I cheaped-out of the motherboard choice when I planned this build. Having said that, Gigabyte IS a reputable brand but I'm just not very confident of this particular model - but that's just me

 

Let me know what you guys think.

 

Sorry for the long post. Have a great day!

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Base clock is 4 GHz, but it will never sit perfectly there, and boost clock is 4.2GHz. It will vary between those points depending on CPU load.

Always trying to find reason.

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sometimes MBs just act funny.

 

a small 4.0 to 4.02 clock difference is just the MB being weird. mine used to do that to my 1090T all the time.

i thought you were thinking it was using coreboost.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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wtf is up with the task manager saying it's a 4core with 8 logical cores? it has 8 physical cores. AMD doesn't hyper thread.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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Dude, all of this is perfectly normal. The bus speed varies a bit from 200-204mhz. Also it has turbo boost and it boosts itself when needed to 4.2GHz I believe. I'd suggest you attempt to OC your CPU a bit because 4.4GHz is the sweet spot for this CPU. I got running my 8320 @ 4.3GHz on stock voltage without turbo boost. If you don't want to raise voltage just try to squeeze the maximum clock on stock voltage as the CPUs are a bit overvolted out of the factory. PM me if you want to know more, got even the same board. ;)

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wtf is up with the task manager saying it's a 4core with 8 logical cores? it has 8 physical cores. AMD doesn't hyper thread.

4 split modules, two cores per, 4 FPU and 8 integer units. 

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Nothing to worry about.  I remember a few years ago when Socket 7 were all new i was working in an IT shop and we had a batch of AMD K6-2 500s in and whatever board u would put the chips into they would detect as 509mhz instead of 500.

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wtf is up with the task manager saying it's a 4core with 8 logical cores? it has 8 physical cores. AMD doesn't hyper thread.

 

 

4 split modules, two cores per, 4 FPU and 8 integer units. 

 

Yep, that's about right.

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Dude, all of this is perfectly normal. The bus speed varies a bit from 200-204mhz. Also it has turbo boost and it boosts itself when needed to 4.2GHz I believe. I'd suggest you attempt to OC your CPU a bit because 4.4GHz is the sweet spot for this CPU. I got running my 8320 @ 4.3GHz on stock voltage without turbo boost. If you don't want to raise voltage just try to squeeze the maximum clock on stock voltage as the CPUs are a bit overvolted out of the factory. PM me if you want to know more, got even the same board. ;)

 

I agree with you there. It's just that it's the first time I've seen it act like this. I mean even the TDP detected by CPU-Z changes. Anyhow I agree that it couldn't be bad. And yes, I'll definitely PM you. Thanks!

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