PC fried?

[Slampig]

Hello there i'm new to that forum and also new to overclocking. 

I just recently put in a new CPU Watercooler in my system so i thought i could try out some CPU overclocking. Unfortunately i'm an idiot and played around with easytune 6 autotune. Not a good idea... BSOD at around 4.8 Ghz  (and around 70 degree celsius according to coretemp) and from then on system doesn't boot up again. The fans go on for a few seconds and then the PC shuts itself down again. I tried clearing the CMOS, removing the mainboard battery for 10 minutes or so nothing helped. I also took out the CPU to see if there are any visible burns but i couldn't find anything. Any suggestions? Is something fried? If yes how could i find out what it is? unfortunately have no spare hardware parts lying around...

 

 

Btw System Specs:

Gigabyte z77x-ud3h

I7 3770k

16 Gb G Skill Ripjaws

Gtx 770

[MeDownYou]

 

Hello there i'm new to that forum and also new to overclocking. 

I just recently put in a new CPU Watercooler in my system so i thought i could try out some CPU overclocking. Unfortunately i'm an idiot and played around with easytune 6 autotune. Not a good idea... BSOD at around 4.8 Ghz and from then on system doesn't boot up again. The fans go on for a few seconds and then the PC shuts itself down again. I tried clearing the CMOS, removing the mainboard battery for 10 minutes or so nothing helped. I also took out the CPU to see if there are any visible burns but i couldn't find anything. Any suggestions? Is something fried? If yes how could i find out what it is? unfortunately have no spare hardware parts lying around...

 

 

Btw System Specs:

Gigabyte z77x-ud3h

I7 3770k

16 Gb G Skill Ripjaws

Gtx 770

 

did you change the jumper pins to 12 vs 23 boot then change back?

 

also 10 minutes sometimes isn't enough for things to discharge (almost make sure you turn off your psu and unplug your computer during this step)

 

What voltages where you at?

[Slampig]

I don't exactly know how to change that "jumper" . What is this for? I can't remember the voltages when the system crashed.

[Slampig]

did you change the jumper pins to 12 vs 23 boot then change back?

 

also 10 minutes sometimes isn't enough for things to discharge (almost make sure you turn off your psu and unplug your computer during this step)

 

What voltages where you at?

I don't know where that jumper is and how to manipulate it.  Which components could all be fried? CPU, Mainboard, RAM?. or could anything other also take damage ?

[techguru]

reset the bios

and unplug it for 10 mins

[Slampig]

reset the bios

and unplug it for 10 mins

I tried to. Well atleast the only way i know how. Push reset cmos button and take out battery. Took it out for 2 hours now with unplugged PSU. Didn't help at all. 

[techguru]

do you have a bios reset jumper?

[dragoon20005]

I don't exactly know how to change that "jumper" . What is this for? I can't remember the voltages when the system crashed.

some PSU has the voltage selector at the back where you swich between 115 and 230 volts

 

if you flip that switch when it on it will kil the PSU and components

 

did you touch that?

[Slampig]

some PSU has the voltage selector at the back where you swich between 115 and 230 volts

 

if you flip that switch when it on it will kil the PSU and components

 

did you touch that?

i didn't touch anything when it crashed. system has been running welll for 2 years now. Until the moment i used that stupid autotune from easy tune....

[Slampig]

do you have a bios reset jumper?

That's the thing i don't exactly know. The mainboard has a Power button, a "CMOS SW" button, a "reset SW" button and a switch which is for switching between the BIOSes (has dual BIOS). Tried everything of those.

[techguru]

what board?

[topsu]

What psu you have?

[Slampig]

what board?

Gigabyte z77x ud3h

 

What psu you have?

Some silverstone 600 W SST ST60. Nothing fancy, nothing too bad at all.

[Slampig]

so it looks like nobody has any idea of what happened.... gonna buy a completely new PC now lol. Goodbye wallet

[Slampig]

Update: I took out the CPU again and it appears to have some brown "stain" on it. So the CPU is fried nice.... Question is what else  could be fried and how the hell is it possible that an official software from gigabyte is able to kill my PC in just a few seconds...

[ApolloX75]

so it looks like nobody has any idea of what happened.... gonna buy a completely new PC now lol. Goodbye wallet

Alright let's go through it...

You have a 3770k running for two years stable at stock, and try to use easytune to overclock.

Easytune screws the pooch as usual and causes an unstable overclock at 4.8Ghz and who-knows-what voltages.

System will not POST. You tried clearing CMOS with button and battery methods.

Have you pulled everything out of the case and set the board up on a box with bare essentials? One stick of ram, cpu, cooler, primary HDD/ssd and iGPU?

[ApolloX75]

Update: I took out the CPU again and it appears to have some brown "stain" on it. So the CPU is fried nice.... Question is what else  could be fried and how the hell is it possible that an official software from gigabyte is able to kill my PC in just a few seconds...

Post a picture of the CPU please.

Easytune is made for small over clocks. Its also extremely rudimentary and over volts like mad.

[Slampig]

Post a picture of the CPU please.

Easytune is made for small over clocks. Its also extremely rudimentary and over volts like mad.

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=673d9d-1428520755.jpg

Here is a link to the picture. You can recognize the brown "stain" on the lower left of the CPU. This is dead ain't it? Do you think anything else could have taken damage?

[ApolloX75]

Here is a link to the picture. You can recognize the brown "stain" on the lower left of the CPU. This is dead ain't it? Do you think anything else could have taken damage?

Well after looking at a pinout for LGA 1155, I'd say you fried the memory controller of the CPU. Seems the pins are around AN30-39 area of the pin map which is dead centre of the DDR3 controller.

Sorry to say but its an unfortunately expensive lesson. Definitely never let a software utility handle overclocking for you.

[Slampig]

Well after looking at a pinout for LGA 1155, I'd say you fried the memory controller of the CPU. Seems the pins are around AN30-39 area of the pin map which is dead centre of the DDR3 controller.

Sorry to say but its an unfortunately expensive lesson. Definitely never let a software utility handle overclocking for you.

Yep haha... that was stupid. Still i think it's kind of fucked up as a software like this comes with gigabyte stuff.... I knew the risk  but still... How are chances that something else took damage? Could i slap in a new CPU and i would be good to go? Or do i have to worry about damaged mainboard ram etc?

Btw what is the reason it is fried? Too high voltage or too high frequency? I'm not an expert on these things. If i buy a new CPU would you recommend to go for haswell and therefore also a new motherboard? I might only get an i5 this time as this system is mainly for gaming.

[ApolloX75]

Yep haha... that was stupid. How are chances that something else took damage? Could i slap in a new CPU and i would be good to go? Or do i have to worry about damaged mainboard ram etc?

Well the rest of the system seems to power on fine, right? So I think your motherboard is probably ok.

But it might be worth seeing if you can borrow a friends sandy/ivy bridge 1155 CPU and try it before investing in a new chip.

Worth a shot to be sure.

*edit - it was probably way too much voltage that did it in. Those overclocking programs tend to err on the side of "push moar volts lol!".

I know BIOS overclocking is intimidating, but thanks to Uefi BIOS now its so easy to learn and much safer.

[Slampig]

Well the rest of the system seems to power on fine, right? So I think your motherboard is probably ok.

But it might be worth seeing if you can borrow a friends sandy/ivy bridge 1155 CPU and try it before investing in a new chip.

Worth a shot to be sure.

*edit - it was probably way too much voltage that did it in. Those overclocking programs tend to err on the side of "push moar volts lol!".

I know BIOS overclocking is intimidating, but thanks to Uefi BIOS now its so easy to learn and much safer.

That's the problem... i don't have many friends that own such PCs (and those who have, have some prebuilt PCs they don't want to open lol). Most of them play on consoles and just use tablets and laptops etc.  I probably won't be able to test another 1155 socket CPU. RAM and GPU i could test in my brothers rig. Is there no other way to atleast approximately test the motherboard etc? Any other indicators? And about PSU i don't have to worry about that in particular? That would be the dumbest thing that could happen a PSU that burns the new stuff i put in lol.  Also do you think the upgrade to socket 1150 is not worth it? Or maybe even wait for Intels 5th generation? (guess there will be a new socket right?)

[gojira]

I mean a 3rd gen and 4th gen i5 is only a 6% difference in performance, so it doesn't really matter what you get imo

[ApolloX75]

That's the problem... i don't have many friends that own such PCs (and those who have, have some prebuilt PCs they don't want to open lol). Most of them play on consoles and just use tablets and laptops etc. I probably won't be able to test another 1155 socket CPU. RAM and GPU i could test in my brothers rig. Is there no other way to atleast approximately test the motherboard etc? Any other indicators? And about PSU i don't have to worry about that in particular? That would be the dumbest thing that could happen a PSU that burns the new stuff i put in lol. Also do you think the upgrade to socket 1150 is not worth it? Or maybe even wait for Intels 5th generation? (guess there will be a new socket right?)

Yeah, I hear ya on that, its hard to get the stuff when you need it lol. Without a CPU there's no way to tell for sure if that board is okay.

Skylake is on the new LGA 1151 socket, but the current Haswell LGA1150 chips are pretty damn awesome as is.

Your PSU is probably fine, I can't say for certain whether or not your motherboard is any good now. I would like to be optimistic and say its alright since it still powers up... But I don't want you to spend a good chunk of change on a new ivy bridge chip only to have to fork out even more for a new board. That would be counterproductive since an upgrade to Haswell would be less hassle and a better idea.

Ultimately its up to you how to proceed. If you've got the money you can get a good 4690k and a Z97 board for a good deal now and enjoy performance about on par with what you had before.

As for the rest of your current hardware, test it in another system just to be sure, PSU too, but I think you'll be alright.

[Slampig]

Yeah, I hear ya on that, its hard to get the stuff when you need it lol. Without a CPU there's no way to tell for sure if that board is okay.

Skylake is on the new LGA 1151 socket, but the current Haswell LGA1150 chips are pretty damn awesome as is.

Your PSU is probably fine, I can't say for certain whether or not your motherboard is any good now. I would like to be optimistic and say its alright since it still powers up... But I don't want you to spend a good chunk of change on a new ivy bridge chip only to have to fork out even more for a new board. That would be counterproductive since an upgrade to Haswell would be less hassle and a better idea.

Ultimately its up to you how to proceed. If you've got the money you can get a good 4690k and a Z97 board for a good deal now and enjoy performance about on par with what you had before.

As for the rest of your current hardware, test it in another system just to be sure, PSU too, but I think you'll be alright.

Thank you very much. Appreciate your help. Yeah i really hope the other stuff is fine. A new mainboard and a new CPU would be ok in my budget. Although it's never funny to blow money into stuff that is  equal to the current system or even inferior just because i'm stupid and used that damn easy tune . but if i had to get new ram, PSU or even VGA i'd be really pissed how can i best test the PSU without blowing up another system?