Unsure of gpu

[bolts823]

i plan on using EVGA step up to get a gtx 980 from my 970, But i am now having second thoughts. As i am looking at the specs sheet my 970 seems to be better in nearly every way to the 980. That does not seem right or is it? Help is much appreciated 

 

comparison: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600536049%20600536050%2050001402&IsNodeId=1&page=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=48%7C14-487-078%5E14-487-078-TS%2C14-487-077%5E14-487-077-TS&percm=14-487-078%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B14-487-077%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24

 

970; http://www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=63d27a41-4ac9-49f6-9fd2-757596181cff

980;http://www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=acd1a85b-bddf-4007-941e-0098bceef53d

[TheSLSAMG]

No matter how much better your GTX 970 seems, the GTX 980 is still faster. I'd personally do it.

[Ostwind]

better in every way how exactly? The only "advantage" the 970 has over the 980 is that it uses less power.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

You should look at benchmarks and performance. The 980 definitely will give you more fps and better performance in games than the 970.

And it can use the full 4GB or vram at the same speeds   

[Ostwind]

You should look at benchmarks and performance. The 980 definitely will give you more fps and better performance in games than the 970.

And it can use the full 4GB or vram  

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[bolts823]

No matter how much better your GTX 970 seems, the GTX 980 is still faster. I'd personally do it.

Could you explain what exactly makes it better or worth the 200 or so dollars? Is it the cuda cores or something along those lines?

[EpIcPoNaGe]

Though it seems as though the 970 has higher clocks, you have to take into consideration the number of cores each has. The 980 has more cores and therefore should be faster (and it is) than the 970. You can only compare number of cores within the same architecture.

[SeanAngelo]

the gtx 980 is better than the gtx 970, the gtx 970 has 3.5gb of vram whereas the gtx 980 has the full 4gb.

 

by looking at the link you provided for the comparison, it clearly shows that the 980 is better.

[sgloux3470]

The 980 is still better, although I'd imagine that running both cards at stock that 970 is pretty darn close to matching the 980 since it has a higher base clock.

 

I  dunno if it's really worth bothering with to be honest.  Seems like more pain to swap cards than you'll get out of it.

[bolts823]

You should look at benchmarks and performance. The 980 definitely will give you more fps and better performance in games than the 970.

And it can use the full 4GB or vram at the same speeds   

that was my initial thought, but then looking at specs it seems top tell me different the core clock and boost clock are lower on the 980 and the cuda cores are higher. do the cuda cores give more performance than i think?

[TheSLSAMG]

Could you explain what exactly makes it better or worth the 200 or so dollars? Is it the cuda cores or something along those lines?

More CUDA cores/Shaders/ROPs make the card perform better, even with the clockspeed gap.

 

the gtx 980 is better than the gtx 970, the gtx 970 has 3.5gb of vram whereas the gtx 980 has the full 4gb.

 

by looking at the link you provided for the comparison, it clearly shows that the 980 is better.

That's a piece of misinformation if I've ever seen one. The GTX 970 has 4 full GB of VRAM, but the last half-gig operates at a speed more similar to system memory.

[bolts823]

The 980 is still better, although I'd imagine that running both cards at stock that 970 is pretty darn close to matching the 980 since it has a higher base clock.

 

I  dunno if it's really worth bothering with to be honest.  Seems like more pain to swap cards than you'll get out of it.

the card would be overclocked for sure i game at 1440p if that helps at all

[Ostwind]

Could you explain what exactly makes it better or worth the 200 or so dollars? Is it the cuda cores or something along those lines?

Whether or not it's worth $200 is going to be up to you, that does not change the fact that the 980 is faster in every way than the 970.

 

the gtx 980 is better than the gtx 970, the gtx 970 has 3.5gb of vram whereas the gtx 980 has the full 4gb.

 

by looking at the link you provided for the comparison, it clearly shows that the 980 is better.

Stop ok just stop perpetuating this crap, the only way the slower partition of RAM actually causes issues is if you push the card beyond what someone would be doing with even a pair of 970's.

 

[SeanAngelo]

More CUDA cores/Shaders/ROPs make the card perform better, even with the clockspeed gap.

 

That's a piece of misinformation if I've ever seen one. The GTX 970 has 4 full GB of VRAM, but the last half-gig operates at a speed more similar to system memory.

yes, there is the full 4gb, but the 500mb is there but the card slows down after it goes over 3.5gb. (heard it from somewhere)

 

LOL ^^

[bolts823]

Whether or not it's worth $200 is going to be up to you, that does not change the fact that the 980 is faster in every way than the 970.

 

Stop ok just stop perpetuating this crap, the only way the slower partition of RAM actually causes issues is if you push the card beyond what someone would be doing with even a pair of 970's.

 

okay so pretty much the lower clock speeds are made up for with the higher cores?

[Ostwind]

okay so pretty much the lower clock speeds are made up for with the higher cores?

You can say that, though both the 970 and the 980 are known to hit a core clock of 1400Mhz on the low end when overclocking. The reason for the lower clock on the 980 is more likely to be so that it fits within the desired power targets set by Nvidia.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

okay so pretty much the lower clock speeds are made up for with the higher cores?

 

Yea... something like that...

The 970s were 980s that were failed 980s so they made it a 970. 

[bolts823]

You can say that, though both the 970 and the 980 are known to hit a core clock of 1400Mhz on the low end when overclocking. The reason for the lower clock on the 980 is more likely to be so that it fits within the desired power targets set by Nvidia.

okay thanks for the help everybody. from everything everybody has said it seems the consensus is the 980 is a better card so i will end up upgrading to it