i7 4790k cooling

[DotoreN]

I upgraded my CPU to an i7 4790k (from a really really old CPU), and it's simply amazing, I love it.

I mostly play Arma 3 (heavy CPU based game) and I also record while playing Arma 3 + I edit/render video's. I currently have the Stock cooling and it's still doing fine as far as I know (no problems yet), but a friend recommended me to upgrade my cooling since I record/edit a lot.

 

So my question to you guys is; Is the stockcooling fine aslong as I don't overclock it or should I upgrade my cooling asap? and what cooling do you recommend if I should upgrade it?

 

I heard the CM EVO212 is really good.

[MatthewEnderle]

I'm running the H100i on mine. Just a push fan config. I can't even hear my pc at 100% load.

 

[dmanschramm]

@DotoreN

 

If you are not overclocking, you do not need to purchase an aftermarket cooler. The stock cooler will do just fine.

But if you are consistently getting temperatures exceeding something like 45 degrees C, then there is a bit of an issue. The CM Evo 212 is a great option for a low price point. If you want something a little better, then you can get the Noctua NH-U14S if you want, or perhaps the Darkrock Pro 3 for silence.

 

After purchasing an AIO water cooler, I personally think the investment isn't really worth it, unless you like the aesthetics and want to overclock your CPU, or are super obsessive of temps around 27 degrees.

Again, the $150 price tag is sort of not worth what you get. But for me, AIO is the way to go (I'm not a rhymer seriously).

 

Hope this helps

[Sega.Neptune]

I would suggest getting an aftermarket cooler for the 4790k because it draws lots of heat because it's 4 ghz on all 4 cores with 8 threads. The stock cooler works if you don't put your cpu to high load because when I once rendered a video when I had a stock cooler. On my 4790k it went to around 80c which is more than the tcase temp.  If you want more turbo boost headroom, render videos without high cpu temps, and Want it to last longer get an aftermarket. 

[slightlyjaded]

This is always going to be a buy what you can afford piece of advice. The CM EVO has been around for years, and it does what is says on the box, no bells, and whistles, but it has consistently delivered the results since it's product launch. At that price point there isn't much better. If you don't mind spending a bit more you can start making other decisions. To you need even more cooling? Do you want more attention paid on the aesthetics. You can spend way to much on cooling if you really want to.

 

If you're not overclocking, stock will run fine. Spend more if and when you want to. A evo will allow a modest overclock. and it will extend the life of your CPU. How much, and whether it's a financially viable option for you is for you to decide.

[DotoreN]

How much better is the EVO 212 than the stock one?

[slightlyjaded]

How much better is the EVO 212 than the stock one?

I think I read somewhere that the stock coolers were rated up to 75W thermal dissipation. I had to look this up, but a hyper 212 evo that you can pick up for 35 bucks is rated for 180W.

Keep in mind that that is maximum, and if you're using that maximum then the fans definitely aren't going to be quiet.

[DotoreN]

I think I read somewhere that the stock coolers were rated up to 75W thermal dissipation. I had to look this up, but a hyper 212 evo that you can pick up for 35 bucks is rated for 180W.

Keep in mind that that is maximum, and if you're using that maximum then the fans definitely aren't going to be quiet.

 

Ah thanks for the info.

 

Do you think if I just render/edit a video once in a while + playing games while recording is fine with the stock cooler? or is it really necessary to buy a cooler?

 

I honestly want to know whether it's needed to spend like 50-100 bucks on a cooler since I don't OC.

[slightlyjaded]

Ah thanks for the info.

 

Do you think if I just render/edit a video once in a while + playing games while recording is fine with the stock cooler? or is it really necessary to buy a cooler?

 

I honestly want to know whether it's needed to spend like 50-100 bucks on a cooler since I don't OC.

It isn't necessary. However, if and when you have an extra 50 bucks burning a hole in your pocket it'd be a good idea to pick one up at some point in the future.

[ace101.]

 

Do you think if I just render/edit a video once in a while + playing games while recording is fine with the stock cooler? or is it really necessary to buy a cooler?

 

I honestly want to know whether it's needed to spend like 50-100 bucks on a cooler since I don't OC.

 

My wife also uses my PC to render once in a while. I cannot stand the noise and heat that is being produced by my Processor and Stock Cooler during rendering so I decided to install a CM 212 EVO. It kept my CPU running cool and silent. 

[LogicalDrm]

How much better is the EVO 212 than the stock one?

 

Difference in max temps is about 10-15C.

[Yuniks]

Since you're not overclocking, the stock cooler should be fine. Just monitor your temps every now and then, 100% load is a good time to benchmark and gather temperatures. ~80C is pretty much the max temperature where I would get a better cooler. Definitely get a better CPU cooler if you have the money. The CM Hyper 212 EVO has amazing quality and performance for it's price, so I would recommend that as a start for aftermarket cooling.

[Admire]

There is no reason to go above a 212 EVO, except for running even slower fan speeds or looks.

 

If you are willing to spend a little more than on a 212, I can highly recommend a phanteks tc14pe

 

[JonnyKennedy]

But can you make a safe overclock on I7 4790K with an aircooler?

[WoodenMarker]

@DotoreN

But if you are consistently getting temperatures exceeding something like 45 degrees C, then there is a bit of an issue. 

45c isn't that high if the system isn't just idling

Do you think if I just render/edit a video once in a while + playing games while recording is fine with the stock cooler? or is it really necessary to buy a cooler?

An aftermarket isn't necessary if your current cooling is adequate. It would help to state your load temps.

How much better is the EVO 212 than the stock one?

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/cm_hyper212_evo/4.htm

But can you make a safe overclock on I7 4790K with an aircooler?

I don't see why not.

[DotoreN]

45c isn't that high if the system isn't just idling

An aftermarket isn't necessary if your current cooling is adequate. It would help to state your load temps.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/cm_hyper212_evo/4.htm

I don't see why not.

 

Thanks for the info.

 

I've never replaced/upgraded my cooling; do I need to buy a new heatsink aswell if I wanna replace my stock cooling with evo 212? or does evo 212 come with a dedicated heatsink? or how does this work ;p

[WoodenMarker]

Thanks for the info.

I've never replaced/upgraded my cooling; do I need to buy a new heatsink aswell if I wanna replace my stock cooling with evo 212? or does evo 212 come with a dedicated heatsink? or how does this work ;p

The 212 Evo IS a heatsink.

[DotoreN]

The 212 Evo IS a heatsink.

 

Ah I see, I thought it was basically just a fan.

212 EVO is Fan + heatsink, I didn't know.

 

So basically I have to remove my old heatsink, remove the old thermal paste, apply new thermal paste and attach the 212?

 

Anymore advice or things I need to worry about while doing this such as what thermal paste should I use and how to remove the old thermal paste?

[WoodenMarker]

Ah I see, I thought it was basically just a fan.

212 EVO is Fan + heatsink, I didn't know.

So basically I have to remove my old heatsink, remove the old thermal paste, apply new thermal paste and attach the 212?

Anymore advice or things I need to worry about while doing this such as what thermal paste should I use and how to remove the old thermal paste?

You need not replace your current cooler in the first place if it is already adequate.

[DotoreN]

You need not replace your current cooler in the first place if it is already adequate.

 

Doesn't my CPU die if i'm rendering video's which take more than 30min to render while my CPU is around 90-95celcius during the whole process?

 

How can I actually know or test whether I need the EVO 212 or if I can keep my stock cooler?

[WoodenMarker]

Doesn't my CPU die if i'm rendering video's which take more than 30min to render while my CPU is around 90-95celcius during the whole process?

How can I actually know or test whether I need the EVO 212 or if I can keep my stock cooler?

90-95c are quite high temps. If those are your load temps, I would suggest getting an aftermarket cooler.

Check your rendering temps and report back?

[ace101.]

Doesn't my CPU die if i'm rendering video's which take more than 30min to render while my CPU is around 90-95celcius during the whole process?

 

How can I actually know or test whether I need the EVO 212 or if I can keep my stock cooler?

Same temps I'm getting while rendering  with stock coolers. Got around 60C after installing 212 EVO. Keeping your CPU cool can prolong its life. 

[DotoreN]

Same temps I'm getting while rendering  with stock coolers. Got around 60C after installing 212 EVO. Keeping your CPU cool can prolong its life. 

 

I heard the EVO 212 is quite hard to montage/install.. but i'll def go for the evo as it's only 30 euro.

 

A friend of mine built the computer for me and I only have knowledge about software, so I think it's not a bad idea to try installing it myself. 

 

aybe a bit offtopic, does the i7 4790k stock cooler come with thermal paste or do you still need to apply it when you install it?

I don't know whether my friend applied the thermal paste himself or if he didn't need to do it.

[DotoreN]

I heard the EVO 212 is quite hard to montage/install.. but i'll def go for the evo as it's only 30 euro.

 

A friend of mine built the computer for me and I only have knowledge about software, so I think it's not a bad idea to try installing it myself. 

 

maybe a bit offtopic, does the i7 4790k stock cooler come with thermal paste or do you still need to apply it when you install it? I don't know whether my friend applied the thermal paste himself or if he didn't need to do it.

 

I bet he needed to apply thermal paste aswell since the processor & motherboard are seperate products, might need to question him whether he applied the correct amount.

[DotoreN]

90-95c are quite high temps. If those are your load temps, I would suggest getting an aftermarket cooler.

Check your rendering temps and report back?

 

90-95 are the rendering temps.