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Why Asus just why?

I was going to upgrade from this stupid 9590 but then here's what Asus does.

A Z87 Maximus VI Hero is $150

A Z97 Maximus VII Hero is $200.

If I get a 4790K it's a refresh CPU right?Z87 needs Bios update to support Refresh CPU's.

How do I Bios update out of box?Should I get the VII hero all together.$50 aint cheap these days

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Solution? Dont buy overpriced motherboards.

 

 
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($100.98 @ Newegg) 
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Why Asus just why?

I was going to upgrade from this stupid 9590 but then here's what Asus does.

A Z87 Maximus VI Hero is $150

A Z97 Maximus VII Hero is $200.

If I get a 4790K it's a refresh CPU right?Z87 needs Bios update to support Refresh CPU's.

How do I Bios update out of box?Should I get the VII hero all together.$50 aint cheap these days

ROG board support USB flashing without any components, plug it in and hold the ROG button. works on all newer models.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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ASUS allows you to use USB BIOS Flashback. If you have a flash drive and another PC, you can download the BIOS to the flash drive, plug it into the back of the board and flash the BIOS without any components except for a functioning board and a power supply.

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Look at the MSI Z97 Gaming series, they are just as good and MUCH cheaper...you don't need such an expensive board mate ;)

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Solution? Dont buy overpriced motherboards.

 

personally, ROG MBs are worth it if you are OCing, the ROG connect cable or front panel readout is amazing and some ROG boards have a error code panel build right on the board. saved my bacon many times before.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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Look at the MSI Z97 Gaming series, they are just as good and MUCH cheaper...you don't need such an expensive board mate ;)

 

 

Don't buy overpriced mobos. MSI Gaming 5 or Asrock Z97 Fatal1ty Killer / Performance

MSI don't got Fan XperT 3

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ASUS allows you to use USB BIOS Flashback. If you have a flash drive and another PC, you can download the BIOS to the flash drive, plug it into the back of the board and flash the BIOS without any components except for a functioning board and a power supply.

NO GPU,CPU,RAM,HDD,SSD?

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NO GPU,CPU,RAM,HDD,SSD?

That's correct.

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"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you" - Edward I. Koch

"I didn't die! I performed a tactical reset!" - Apollolol

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personally, ROG MBs are worth it if you are OCing, the ROG connect cable or front panel readout is amazing and some ROG boards have a error code panel build right on the board. saved my bacon many times before.

ROG Boards are not worth it when you can get boards that will OC just the same if not better with less voltage for cheaper. I.E. The Z87 Xpower that is 150$ right now (newegg) which was a 400$ mobo at launch I bought it and its miles better then any Asus Z87 Board I've used to date.

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That's correct.

You need a CPU installed at the minimum along with stand by power.

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I like ASUS, don't get me wrong, but you take it farther than what I would ever do.

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You need a CPU installed at the minimum along with stand by power.

you just need power

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We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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Why Asus just why?

I was going to upgrade from this stupid 9590 but then here's what Asus does.

A Z87 Maximus VI Hero is $150

A Z97 Maximus VII Hero is $200.

If I get a 4790K it's a refresh CPU right?Z87 needs Bios update to support Refresh CPU's.

How do I Bios update out of box?Should I get the VII hero all together.$50 aint cheap these days

Or you know

 

Don't get Asus

"Rawr XD"

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When it comes to overclocking on Haswell/Devils Canyon there is nothing that a $200+ board can do that one of the many $120 board can't do. Get one of the offerings from MSI or Gigabyte or even one of the cheaper Asus boards if you're intent on giving them money so they can continue to has shit customer support.

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you just need power

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"don't need a CPU" See that's the part that is making any sense since why would they have a CPU installed if it wasn't needed?

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You need a CPU installed at the minimum along with stand by power.

ASUS happens to have system requirements on their website about USB BIOS Flashback. http://event.asus.com/2012/mb/USB_BIOS_Flashback_GUIDE/

 

No mention of a CPU at all. Even the top of the page specifically says "No CPU."

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ASUS happens to have system requirements on their website about USB BIOS Flashback. http://event.asus.com/2012/mb/USB_BIOS_Flashback_GUIDE/

 

No mention of a CPU at all.

Still don't make sense on how it clears the old UEFI. I had it on my Z87 Sabertooth Board when I was using it. Never worked with out the CPU installed for it. 

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Only you would of bought a 9590..

 

As everyone has said either get another motherboard or use the USB Flash method :)

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If I were to go ASUS, I would go with something in their mainstream line rather than the overpriced RoG line.  I'm certainly eyeing the Z97-PRO myself.  Sure, it might not look as pretty as those "gaming" motherboards in a windowed case, but at least it'll get the functionality and compatibility done.

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Only you would of bought a 9590..

 

As everyone has said either get another motherboard or use the USB Flash method :)

I own one...

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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