Budget CPU Find, Amazed!

[arnavvr]

I was planning to move to Skylake or Zen, but then I watched this video: 

 

 

 

I was amazed, by the performance and I thought this would be a good buy.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-SABERTOOTH-X58-LGA-1366-Intel-Motherboard-/131459523513?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e9b9923b9

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-W3520-2-66GHz-Quad-Core-Processor-For-MSI-X58-Platinum-/171694104751?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f9c420af

 

These were the parts I was looking to pick up, and was wondering how much I could sell by current cpu+mobo to get this

[Samsterstorm]

Thats not a gaming CPU by any stretch of the imagination! What do u plan to do with it

[Ostwind]

Not a gaming CPU you would be better served by newer hardware.

[Johannes_Lazor]

I think a FX 4300, Athlon 760k/860k, Athlon 5350(A AM1 CPU, But Largely underrated for budget gaming) Or a G3258 would be better for Gaming.

[arnavvr]

Not a gaming CPU you would be better served by newer hardware.

 

Thats not a gaming CPU by any stretch of the imagination! What do u plan to do with it

 

I will be ocing to 4GHz, so it should be fine.

[Ostwind]

I will be ocing to 4GHz, so it should be fine.

It's a Bloomfield 45nm chip, 4Ghz on that would still be loads slower than a modern chip at stock speeds. Plus there's no guarantee that you could hit 4Ghz without a stupid amount of voltage. You have a decent system now you should just wait to upgrade to a platform that would actually have an upgrade path. If you got that Xeon and a Sabertooth X58 you would be going from a new platform with no upgrade path to an old one with no upgrade path.

[arnavvr]

It's a Bloomfield 45nm chip, 4Ghz on that would still be loads slower than a modern chip at stock speeds. Plus there's no guarantee that you could hit 4Ghz without a stupid amount of voltage. You have a decent system now you should just wait to upgrade to a platform that would actually have an upgrade path. If you got that Xeon and a Sabertooth X58 you would be going from a new platform with no upgrade path to an old one with no upgrade path.

 

Bloomfield Chips are perfectly fine with voltage as they are at 45nm, and it is a 6 core 12 thread, so I wouldn't need an upgrade path

[Samsterstorm]

Bloomfield Chips are perfectly fine with voltage as they are at 45nm, and it is a 6 core 12 thread, so I wouldn't need an upgrade path

Its 4 core 4 thread CPU that u linked to and i reckon a basic £30 pentium at stock speeds would beat that any day! You dont need to ur A10 is way better atm! So listen to our advice or stop telling us we are wrong!       

[Ostwind]

Bloomfield Chips are perfectly fine with voltage as they are at 45nm, and it is a 6 core 12 thread, so I wouldn't need an upgrade path

You linked a W3520 which is a quad core not a six core http://ark.intel.com/products/39718/Intel-Xeon-Processor-W3520-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI?q=Intel%C2%AE%20Xeon%C2%AE%20Processor%20W3520%20%288M%20Cache,%202.66%20GHz,%204.80%20GT/s%20Intel%C2%AE%20QPI%29

 

 

 

Its 4 core 4 thread CPU that u linked to and i reckon a basic £30 pentium at stock speeds would beat that any day! You dont need to ur A10 is way better atm! So listen to our advice or stop telling us we are wrong!       

 

No, this CPU would be better than what he has now but a $30 chip will not beat a W3520.

[Johannes_Lazor]

In a Workstation it is probably good, As he shows in the video. But Gaming is another thing.

That video is aimed for those who want to build a Workstation, Not a Gaming Rig.

[arnavvr]

You linked a W3520 which is a quad core not a six core http://ark.intel.com/products/39718/Intel-Xeon-Processor-W3520-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI?q=Intel%C2%AE%20Xeon%C2%AE%20Processor%20W3520%20%288M%20Cache,%202.66%20GHz,%204.80%20GT/s%20Intel%C2%AE%20QPI%29

 

 

 

 

No, this CPU would be better than what he has now but a $30 chip will not beat a W3520.

I plan to upgrade to the X5650 later on, but I do game and edit video.

[david cassar]

Well its pretty beastly but good luck trying to find a good x58 motherboard.

[Ostwind]

I plan to upgrade to the X5650 later on, but I do game and edit video.

Well you're going to do whatever you're going to do, I was just making the better path known. So long as you can get the six core super cheap I guess it's not an awful idea.

[Grrizz]

IDK if id go for the W3520 but the X5650 is a nice chip for both work and gaming especially for the price, all things being equal I would take a 3770k/4770k over it but for the price the X5650 is a beast saying its no good for gaming is like saying a 2500/2600 is no good for gaming lol.

[arnavvr]

IDK if id go for the W3520 but the X5650 is a nice chip for both work and gaming especially for the price, all things being equal I would take a 3770k/4770k over it but for the price the X5650 is a beast saying its no good for gaming is like saying a 2500/2600 is no good for gaming lol.

 

Isn't the W3520 a 4 core/8 thread, I can get it for 12.99, but X58 boards are a bit expensive.

[Grrizz]

Isn't the W3520 a 4 core/8 thread, I can get it for 12.99, but X58 boards are a bit expensive.

That's still a decent CPU but its from the first gen 'i' series which while decent are the gen before the "magic" sandy bridges, for the price its still really good but for me if I could I would try to get to at least the generation after it but as you say that's an upgrade option and $13 is like one lunch so your not really going to loose anything by getting that first

[arnavvr]

That's still a decent CPU but its from the first gen 'i' series which while decent are the gen before the "magic" sandy bridges, for the price its still really good but for me if I could I would try to get to at least the generation after it but as you say that's an upgrade option and $13 is like one lunch so your not really going to loose anything but getting that first

 

Anywhere where I can find good X58 boards?

[Grrizz]

Anywhere where I can find good X58 boards?

IDK really, I guess ebay would be where I'd be looking, mobos can be one of the more fickle long term parts but being that socket 1366 is workstation geared I'd feel more comfortable about buying an older one, I'd say just make sure you go through the listing with a fine tooth comb.

Also remember you'll want 3 memory sticks on those boards rather than the normal 2

[Grrizz]

That's still a decent CPU but its from the first gen 'i' series which while decent are the gen before the "magic" sandy bridges, for the price its still really good but for me if I could I would try to get to at least the generation after it but as you say that's an upgrade option and $13 is like one lunch so your not really going to loose anything by getting that first

I need to make a little amendment to that post, I got a bit mixed up with the architectures and die sizes.

The W3520 is actually the 45nm die shrink on the Core architecture (Penryn) while the X5650 is the 32nm die shrink of the Nehalem architecture (Westmere). So while the X5650 is on the same process node as the Sandy bridge it uses the first gen 'i' series architecture and while the W3520 is on the same process node as the first gen 'i' series it uses the older architecture.

My opinion remains the same though, for $13 the W3520 is still a decent CPU (think Core 2 Quad) however it further re-enforces that the X5650 is just that much better and the one to aim for if you can.

[arnavvr]

I need to make a little amendment to that post, I got a bit mixed up with the architectures and die sizes.

The W3520 is actually the 45nm die shrink on the Core architecture (Penryn) while the X5650 is the 32nm die shrink of the Nehalem architecture (Westmere). So while the X5650 is on the same process node as the Sandy bridge it uses the first gen 'i' series architecture and while the W3520 is on the same process node as the first gen 'i' series it uses the older architecture.

My opinion remains the same though, for $13 the W3520 is still a decent CPU (think Core 2 Quad) however it further re-enforces that the X5650 is just that much better and the one to aim for if you can.

 

Thank you for strengthening my thoughts about X58 still being a capable platform, I might just spring for a ASUS Sabertooth X58 and a W3520 and OC like a bat out of hell, cause they are $13 who cares? 

[i_build_nanosuits]

These were the parts I was looking to pick up, and was wondering how much I could sell by current cpu+mobo to get this

you aware that this is a downgrade from what you currently own right?

Thank you for strengthening my thoughts about X58 still being a capable platform, I might just spring for a ASUS Sabertooth X58 and a W3520 and OC like a bat out of hell, cause they are $13 who cares?

the motherboard is 150$...you'll sink nearly 200$ into this, why not spending a few extra to get this instead?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($173.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $217.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-22 20:44 EDT-0400

[arnavvr]

you aware that this is a downgrade from what you currently own right?

the motherboard is 150$...you'll sink nearly 200$ into this, why not spending a few extra to get this instead?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($173.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $217.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-22 20:44 EDT-0400

 

4core/ 4thread vs. 6core/ 12 thread.

 

Also, if you can find a cheaper mobo that is still decent plz tell me.

[i_build_nanosuits]

4core/ 4thread vs. 6core/ 12 thread.

 

Also, if you can find a cheaper mobo that is still decent plz tell me.

absolutely the one i've linked is perfectly decent.

Also the CPU you are looking at is not 6core/12threads it's 4core/8 threads and the core i5-4440 will massively outperform it in just about anything it being a much newer and stronger part...it will even match and beat the 12 thread one in pretty much anything but video rendering and even then it should not be too far behind.

What are you gonna do with this?

[arnavvr]

absolutely the one i've linked is perfectly decent.

Also the CPU you are looking at is not 6core/12threads it's 4core/8 threads and the core i5-4440 will massively outperform it in just about anything it being a much newer and stronger part...it will even match and beat the 12 thread one in pretty much anything but video rendering and even then it should not be too far behind.

What are you gonna do with this?

 

The Xeon W3520, is temporary, as I plan to upgrade to the Xeon X5650 In about a month when I get more money.

 

Video Editing, Streaming and Gaming.

[i_build_nanosuits]

The Xeon W3520, is temporary, as I plan to upgrade to the Xeon X5650 In about a month when I get more money.

 

Video Editing, Streaming and Gaming.

The X5650 is also an old chip and the performance per core isn't really good and that will greatly impact gaming performance in CPU demanding titles.

Unless you do mostly rendering and some light gaming on the side (paired with a low or mid tier GPU) then this is not a really good choice.

If you do mainly gaming with some rendering on the side, then the i5-4440 will perform a lot better and can be paired with even the highest end GPUs.

Also unlike the rendering part, editing your videos will be quicker and snappier with a CPU that has stronger cores...not many weaker ones.