GTX 970 Owners Club

[rjfaber91]

AFAIK if you don't have sensor, then you can't really tell. I remember some 780ti guide where it was said to add 20°c to core temperature to tell approximate temperature.

 

Hmm, I see. Thanks!

[Gofspar]

Did you placed a temperature sensor between VRM's and cooler?

ya

[Gofspar]

Got myself another G1 but my memory is from Elpida but my 1st G1 was using Hynix and both are REV1.1

 

Will it make any difference? How about the Samsung memory? 

They use Elpida in the G1 Gaming's now.. thats unfortunate. They'll function like normal cards the memory OC wont be very high tho.

[d3smondlow]

They use Elpida in the G1 Gaming's now.. thats unfortunate. They'll function like normal cards the memory OC wont be very high tho.

That sucks... they probably try to prevent people OC-ing too much that it will ruin the market of the 980s

Thanks for your info btw

[d3smondlow]

They use Elpida in the G1 Gaming's now.. thats unfortunate. They'll function like normal cards the memory OC wont be very high tho.

 

Btw I just noticed that you are the creator of this post, I'm using your 1.3v G1 Bios right now and everything works great! Especially the "Strix" like experience Thank you so much!!!

Just a quick question, I'm going to do SLI tmr, do I have to flash both of them into the same bios or I can do one with 1.3v BIOS and one stock BIOS? 

 

Thanks

[Gofspar]

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[arniks8]

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[Animosity07]

hi guys im building my first pc tomorrow im gettin this rig : https://pcpartpicker.com/p/hMcpP6 as I'm set on getting the msi 970 is it ideal to oc my card and whats the safest number i can get i think i want this card to last me 3-5 years and im afraid of lessening its lifespan if i do overclock it and yet i still wanna try ocing it, oh the dilemna  

[rjfaber91]

hi guys im building my first pc tomorrow im gettin this rig : https://pcpartpicker.com/p/hMcpP6 as I'm set on getting the msi 970 is it ideal to oc my card and whats the safest number i can get i think i want this card to last me 3-5 years and im afraid of lessening its lifespan if i do overclock it and yet i still wanna try ocing it, oh the dilemna  

 

Not sure why you'd go with the Hyper 212 Evo if what you want (and it seems from the list that you do) a black-and-red colour scheme. The all-black Be Quiet! Dark Rock 3 or the red version of the Phanteks PH-TC12DX (see image) would fit much better. Yes, they're about $20.- more than the Hyper 212, but I don't see that making a dent in an $1800.- budget...

 

 

Anyway, to get back ontopic: Overclocking is unlikely to do much to the lifespan of your 970 unless you are really negligent about cooling, and you're frankly much more likely to replace a graphics card because its performance has fallen behind your expectations than you are because it's broken. Three to five years, as you demand of it, is pretty much guaranteed unless you go mental with the overvolting.

[Vellinious]

Finally got a few 1620 runs in.  Had to do it with a single card, but...I got it!



http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6091937

[Animosity07]

Not sure why you'd go with the Hyper 212 Evo if what you want (and it seems from the list that you do) a black-and-red colour scheme. The all-black Be Quiet! Dark Rock 3 or the red version of the Phanteks PH-TC12DX (see image) would fit much better. Yes, they're about $20.- more than the Hyper 212, but I don't see that making a dent in an $1800.- budget...

 

 

i went with cm 212 as this is out of stock here in taiwan so apparantly i got a elpida memory on my gpu is that bad?

 

 

Anyway, to get back ontopic: Overclocking is unlikely to do much to the lifespan of your 970 unless you are really negligent about cooling, and you're frankly much more likely to replace a graphics card because its performance has fallen behind your expectations than you are because it's broken. Three to five years, as you demand of it, is pretty much guaranteed unless you go mental with the overvolting.

i went with cm 212 as this is out of stock here in taiwan so apparantly i got a elpida memory on my gpu is that bad?

[d3smondlow]

Finally got a few 1620 runs in.  Had to do it with a single card, but...I got it!

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6091937

 

Nice! what card are you using? why is default clock so much higher than mine? nearly higher than my stock boost clock LOL

[Vellinious]

Nice! what card are you using? why is default clock so much higher than mine? nearly higher than my stock boost clock LOL

EVGA 970 FTW.  The modded bios has a base clock of 1531.  The stock bios base clock is 1291, boost clock of 1367.

[Benji_w]

EVGA 970 FTW.  The modded bios has a base clock of 1531.  The stock bios base clock is 1291, boost clock of 1367.

 

Mine always boosts to 1404mhz for some reason, not sure why? I really want 1600mhz next but not sure it that's possible on air, and I need to custom bios flash the card next to push my power limit away.

[Vellinious]

Mine always boosts to 1404mhz for some reason, not sure why? I really want 1600mhz next but not sure it that's possible on air, and I need to custom bios flash the card next to push my power limit away.

That's pretty normal.  My 73.3% ASIC card would boost to 1430 @ 1.256v with KBoost enabled.  And my 80.8% ASIC card boosts to 1455 @ 1.25v with KBoost enabled.

[SkilledRebuilds]

I use MSI AB for all my stuff, no K-boost there, what is it exactly, an extended feature of Precision X?? What does it do?

That's pretty normal.  My 73.3% ASIC card would boost to 1430 @ 1.256v with KBoost enabled.  And my 80.8% ASIC card boosts to 1455 @ 1.25v with KBoost enabled.

 

[Benji_w]

That's pretty normal.  My 73.3% ASIC card would boost to 1430 @ 1.256v with KBoost enabled.  And my 80.8% ASIC card boosts to 1455 @ 1.25v with KBoost enabled.

 

 

So is ASIC relevant then? I thought it was a load of nonsense or have the times changed?

[rjfaber91]

So is ASIC relevant then? I thought it was a load of nonsense or have the times changed?

 

ASIC has always been relevant, it's just not been what most people seem to think it is.

[Lethal Seraph]

ASIC has always been relevant, it's just not been what most people seem to think it is.

 

I think it's relevant only to Maxwell architecture. ASIC scores on non-900 series doesn't matter. IIRC the score can dictate what's the best cooling solution for overclocking, the higher -the better for watercooling, I think it has to do with voltage leak.

[rjfaber91]

I think it's relevant only to Maxwell architecture. ASIC scores on non-900 series doesn't matter. IIRC the score can dictate what's the best cooling solution for overclocking, the higher -the better for watercooling, I think it has to do with voltage leak.

 

It has to do with voltage leak indeed, which makes it relevant for all graphics cards, but whether or not it's actually important or not is rather a different matter...

[Lethal Seraph]

I guess if you're into benchmarking you'd be wanting high ASIC score so you can get better results with LN2... but then again it wouldn't be on a 970.

[Vellinious]

So is ASIC relevant then? I thought it was a load of nonsense or have the times changed?

It wasn't really an indicator of anything for Keppler for air and water, but for Maxwell it seems to be pretty significant.  There are other things that come into play when considering the overclockability of a card.  The overall quality of the rest of the parts come into play as well.  The VRM, the memory modules, power delivery, etc...all these things can and will affect overclock performance, but all things being equal, the higher ASIC quality cards will clock higher with lower voltages...more so with Maxwell than anything else up to this point.

With voltage limits on the VRAM, then it becomes pretty important.  Most of the EVGA 970s are limited to 1.275v....so, attaining a really high overclock with that limitation in place, can be somewhat trying on a low ASIC card.  The 73.3% ASIC card I have will only stay stable at 1583, but the 80.8% card will stay stable at 1607.  If you're pushing the cards to their limits, then yes...it's important.

 

 

I use MSI AB for all my stuff, no K-boost there, what is it exactly, an extended feature of Precision X?? What does it do?

There's an option in Afterburner that does essentially the same thing...  KBoost enables the boost clock and boost voltages all the time.  It'll help keep higher clocks more stable.  A lot like disabling c-states and energy saving features when overclocking cpus.

[Benji_w]

My ASIC is 71% so I should probably put it on water before I pump more volts into it.

[rjfaber91]

I guess if you're into benchmarking you'd be wanting high ASIC score so you can get better results with LN2... but then again it wouldn't be on a 970.

 

The general idea is that higher ASIC scores make for higher overclocks on any given voltage, which can be relevant to some extent, but generally any given overclock will still be doable on a card regardless of ASIC score, with the only difference being that a card with lower ASIC score will have to overvolt further to reach stability on aforementioned overclock.

 

 

There has been a 970-owners club? Does the one in my Signature count?

 

Yes, it does. In fact, the thread's creator @Gofspar has pretty much retitled this the "Maxwell Owners Club", so even a 950 or 960 would quality you for membership, if there even is such a thing...

[Vellinious]

My ASIC is 71% so I should probably put it on water before I pump more volts into it.

There's nothing in the voltage slider in the 970 that's going to hurt your card, as long as you keep temperatures under control.  It's very likely that it's limited by the bios, and you'll only be able to push it up to 1.256 or maybe 1.262 without modding the bios to push it higher.