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Hi guys, so I’m currently buying and constructing my latest rig.

For this rig I ordered a 512gb Crucial MX100. And originally I had no intention of getting a second one and using a RAID0 array, mostly due to a lack of SATA III ports, I'm a slight storage junkie, I already nave 4 6tb drives and a Bluray reader using 6 of the 8 SATA ports, but should I reconsider? I won't really be gaming on it (at least not much) as I have no fine motor skills and a truly atrocious reaction time.

So any thoughts? Was my first inclination right, or should I reconsider?

Thanks a lot for your thoughts.

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Hi guys, so I’m currently buying and constructing my latest rig.

For this rig I ordered a 512gb Crucial MX100. And originally I had no intention of getting a second one and using a RAID0 array, mostly due to a lack of SATA III ports, I'm a slight storage junkie, I already nave 4 6tb drives and a Bluray reader using 6 of the 8 SATA ports, but should I reconsider? I won't really be gaming on it (at least not much) as I have no fine motor skills and a truly atrocious reaction time.

So any thoughts? Was my first inclination right, or should I reconsider?

Thanks a lot for your thoughts.

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Eh, SSDs are still really fast, and I don't think you'd notice the difference in boot times

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Soon to be MX100s running in RAID 0 here (x2 512GB).

 

I've gained the inclination to drop all mechanical drives, as I have no need for tons of storage and the noise sets me off. 

 

Also, the speed is simply fantastic. If I need extra storage, there is always external devices or cloud services. 

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Thanks for the quick replies. As it Is I've never RAIDed a drive

before it would really interest me. However it does somehow come down

to how much do I stand to gain. It still isn't free, it would still

cost me just shy of 200sfr. And I’ve already gone overkill on the CPU,

RAM and cooling already. However 1100mb/s read and 1000mb/s write speeds are

tempting.

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How often do you copy data to and from a device that can match RAID0's theoretical speeds?

I have 2x Sandisk Extreme IIs RAID 0 and while the performance is great, it's definitely not double my office PCs which use a single Sandisk 128GB drive and is therefore probably, definitely not worth it and the speed is still limited by whatever device I am reading too/writing from.

And it comes with its own set of problems - my motherboard failed and I'm currently stuck using a HDD on the temporary solution as I can't run my RAID array without formatting it, and recovery was a pain.

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I wouldn't raid it.

And if you do use RAID 0 you lose both drives if one fails

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Hi guys, so I’m currently buying and constructing my latest rig.

For this rig I ordered a 512gb Crucial MX100. And originally I had no intention of getting a second one and using a RAID0 array, mostly due to a lack of SATA III ports, I'm a slight storage junkie, I already nave 4 6tb drives and a Bluray reader using 6 of the 8 SATA ports, but should I reconsider? I won't really be gaming on it (at least not much) as I have no fine motor skills and a truly atrocious reaction time.

So any thoughts? Was my first inclination right, or should I reconsider?

Thanks a lot for your thoughts.

 

 

Hey WhoAteMyCookies,
 
While giving you a great speed boost, RAID0 doubles the points of failure on your boot drive. You have basically twice the risk of data loss on that drive in case one of the drives fail. IMHO a SSD is already fast enough and the risk of RAID0 for regular consumer usage is not worth the risk. If you are working with heavier programs with huge loading times, this would be a great improvement, but for everyday usage, you won't see such a huge improvement, compared to a RAID0 from two HDDs. 
The jump in load times from HDD to SSD is like 10s to 1s. RAID 0 effectively (theoretically) halves the load time. So if you were to RAID 0 mechanical drives, it's 10s to 5s. You derive 5s of benefit. If you were to RAID 0 SSDs instead, its like 1s to 0.5s. You derive 0.5s of benefit. Just to demonstrate that striping SSDs is nowhere as beneficial compared to mechanical drives.
 
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Ok thanks for the input, I think I will stick with one ssd. twice the chance of data doesn't really appeal to me.

I think I came to a similar answer when I first created the blueprints for the build, but I thought I'd ask :)

so again thanks for the help.

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Ok thanks for the input, I think I will stick with one ssd. twice the chance of data doesn't really appeal to me.

I think I came to a similar answer when I first created the blueprints for the build, but I thought I'd ask :)

so again thanks for the help.

 

Well, many people use drives in RAID0 (both SSDs and HDDs) and they last for years without a failure. A higher chance of data loss does not mean it would happen. Current HDDs and SSDs are pretty reliable and failures happen occasionally. I simply believe that people should be informed about both the good and the bad part of a certain RAID setup before going for it. It is entirely up to you to decide if you'd like to take advantage of the speed boost and risk a bit more, or go with a regular SSD speed (which is still pretty fast) and have a lower risk of data loss. :)
 
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Well, many people use drives in RAID0 (both SSDs and HDDs) and they last for years without a failure. A higher chance of data loss does not mean it would happen. Current HDDs and SSDs are pretty reliable and failures happen occasionally. I simply believe that people should be informed about both the good and the bad part of a certain RAID setup before going for it. It is entirely up to you to decide if you'd like to take advantage of the speed boost and risk a bit more, or go with a regular SSD speed (which is still pretty fast) and have a lower risk of data loss. :)

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TY I get what you mean. For me I just realise that the potential loss would be signifficant and the gain in speed would not be that big. Also it adds another 200+$ to the cost of the build, and I am limited in the ammount of Sata ports That I have available. And a phantom 530 only has one dedicated 2.5 at the back.

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