860K + 960?

[WinnerYG]

Since the GTX 960 came out i was wondering if a 4.5 Ghz a10 7850k which has been running on the igpu for months now, gonna bottleneck a 960, i don't think it will since its weaker than a r9 280x. but i wanna make sure. would a gtx 970 bottleneck it?

[Enderman]

yeah it "bottlenecks" any GPU, but it will only be about 5-10% depending on the game

[SoftenButterCream]

No, I @EarthboundHero has a R9 280X with a A10 before and didn't experience any bottleneck, so I believe a 960 won't bottleneck it, maybe in Newer AAA games, if you don't play AAA games then your fine.

[EarthboundHero]

No, I @EarthboundHero has a R9 280X with a A10 before and didn't experience any bottleneck, so I believe a 960 won't bottleneck it, maybe in Newer AAA games, if you don't play AAA games then your fine.

What? I have a 280, and a 7850K and have experienced bad bottlenecks in some games. To the point where they're unplayable. Don't get the 860K for that GPU.

[SoftenButterCream]

What? I have a 280, and a 7850K and have experienced bad bottlenecks in some games. To the point where they're unplayable. Don't get the 860K for that GPU.

You serious? What resolution you playing at?

[dragoon20005]

What? I have a 280, and a 7850K and have experienced bad bottlenecks in some games. To the point where they're unplayable. Don't get the 860K for that GPU.

was it because you are running stock clocks?

[sgloux3470]

Honestly, if you're just trying to play video games you don't really need to care about bottlenecks.  You'll get 1080p/60 FPS just fine.

 

If you want to push 100+ FPS, then you can start worrying.  

[EarthboundHero]

was it because you are running stock clocks?

GPU is OC'd. Can't even get the CPU to overclock.

 

You serious? What resolution you playing at?

1080P

[dragoon20005]

GPU is OC'd. Can't even get the CPU to overclock.

 

1080P

iGPU?

 

i will say lock it to 1GHz

 

disable C6 state

 

enable Cool N Quiet mode

 

set the FSB to 2000MHz

 

enable the memory clock to 2133MHz

 

and OC to 4.5GHz at 1.4+ volts

[EarthboundHero]

-snip-

 

No my R9 280. My CPU is set at the turbo of 4GHz and is stable anything higher and it's unstable, anymore voltage and it gets way too hot and unstable.

[SoftenButterCream]

Honestly, if you're just trying to play video games you don't really need to care about bottlenecks.  You'll get 1080p/60 FPS just fine.

 

If you want to push 100+ FPS, then you can start worrying.  

Bro what happened to your testing on the 4k?

[dragoon20005]

No my R9 280. My CPU is set at the turbo of 4GHz and is stable anything higher and it's unstable, anymore voltage and it gets way too hot and unstable.

thats is the problem here

 

at stock clocks the A10 will bottleneck the 280

 

of course when you OC you need to add more voltage otherwise it will be unstable

 

do what i mentioned for the CPU side of the A10 and crank up the speed

 

you APU need more speed

[EarthboundHero]

-snip-

As I said, any voltage that's stable makes the CPU run extremely hot.

[SoftenButterCream]

As I said, any voltage that's stable makes the CPU run extremely hot.

Are you using stock cooler?

[EarthboundHero]

Are you using stock cooler?

No, Xigmatek Gaia SD1283 with 2 Cougar 120MM PWM fans.

[sgloux3470]

Bro what happened to your testing on the 4k?

 

Been busy with school lately. (And been playing the new Wolfenstein.)

[dragoon20005]

No, Xigmatek Gaia SD1283 with 2 Cougar 120MM PWM fans.

time for a new CPU cooler

 

the CM 212 Evo/Plus can keep the CPU cool

 

the recconmended operating temp for the APU is 60 degrees and below

[SoftenButterCream]

Been busy with school lately. (And been playing the new Wolfenstein.)

Ah I understand, school should always come first. 

[EarthboundHero]

time for a new CPU cooler

 

the CM 212 Evo/Plus can keep the CPU cool

 

the recconmended operating temp for the APU is 60 degrees and below

I'm just going to go over to Intel. Saving for a 4690K.

[dragoon20005]

I'm just going to go over to Intel. Saving for a 4690K.

oh sell me your APU and mobo for cheap 

[EarthboundHero]

oh sell me your APU and mobo for cheap 

I'd love to  but I'm going to save it in case something ever breaks.

[Hieb]

thats is the problem here

 

at stock clocks the A10 will bottleneck the 280

 

of course when you OC you need to add more voltage otherwise it will be unstable

 

do what i mentioned for the CPU side of the A10 and crank up the speed

 

you APU need more speed

 

Difference in gaming performance with high-end GPUs such as a GTX Titan is within a margin of 10% by overclocking from 3.7 to ~4.5GHz. Bulldozer family chips' gaming performance I expect is bottlenecked mostly by the cache rather than the clock speed. Really it's just gonna depend on the games and settings you're running at, it's not as simple as saying X CPU will bottleneck Y GPU. An i7 can bottleneck a GTX 760 if you play at 720P 200 FPS in BF4 MP, and a Pentium could support SLI Titans just fine playing at 4K 60 FPS in Tomb Raider.

 

But for triple A titles an R9 280 being held back by an A10 doesn't surprise me tbh, overclocked or not.

 

That said, PC upgrading is a game of leapfrog anyways. The GTX 960 would be held back somewhat by the A10-7850K in some games, but then you can upgrade your CPU in a year or two. Not to mention the 960 would still handwalk circles around the integrated graphics on the A10-7850K. It's still a worthwhile upgrade, just one where the fullest potential won't be seen with the current CPU... no big deal.

 

I went Q6600 + old ass Radeon HD 4000 series card to Q6600 + GTX 560, then to an i5-4690K + GTX 560, then to i5-4690K + GTX 760... each upgrade produced a substantial improvement to performance, but there was always a bottleneck somewhere. Although having said that I think my GPU is gonna be the first to be upgraded here rather than the i5-4690K lol... BF4 can run 64p multiplayer with CPU intensive settings (Ambient Occlusion/HBAO and Mesh Quality) set to ultra at over 110fps minimum framerate (

), so I don't think it'll be needing an upgrade any time soon

[i_build_nanosuits]

 (

), so I don't think it'll be needing an upgrade any time soon

Pfff i can push upward of 220FPS consistently with those settings mate...not impressed

(just kidding of course... but still i can do that!)

 

TO OP: CHECK the numbers and BENCHMARKS the GTX 960 is not worth the pricetag it's a crippled low-end 2GB card on very narrow memory bus...look for an R9 280 or R9 280X GPU instead or HD7950 / HD7970.