Gaming? X4 860K? i3 4150? G258?

[JaEras]

I building a pc from scratch and my cpu can't go over 110/120 dollars (i live in Portugal but the price in euros is more or less the same as in dollars in the US and Canada). What CPU should i buy?

[ZetZet]

860k can't even be compared to an i3. and i3 is slightly better than the anniversary pentium.

[DigitalHermit]

i34150 if you need 4 threads, 860K if you're confident in overclocking...

[lani100]

I building a pc from scratch and my cpu can't go over 110/120 dollars (i live in Portugal but the price in euros is more or less the same as in dollars in the US and Canada). What CPU should i buy?

i3 the amd doesn't even get close to the intel ones.

[salecar3]

i woad go wight fx6300 or i3 4150

[the jolly roger]

i34150 if you need 4 threads, 860K if you're confident in overclocking...

but the fm2+ socket is dead right now, the 860k is as good as it gets

[Aniallation]

I building a pc from scratch and my cpu can't go over 110/120 dollars (i live in Portugal but the price in euros is more or less the same as in dollars in the US and Canada). What CPU should i buy?

i3 if you don't overclock

860K if you do

 

 

860k can't even be compared to an i3. and i3 is slightly better than the anniversary pentium.

Why can't 860K be compared to an i3 if it's a much better choice then the G3258 for newer AAA gaming

[the jolly roger]

i3 if you don't overclock

860K if you do

 

 

Why can't 860K be compared to an i3 if it's a much better choice then the G3258 for newer AAA gaming

people choose the g3258 rather than any athlon mostly for intels upgrade path

[zappian]

Its not a fair comparison because the i3 destroys the 860k.

 

In modern games the i3 is quite better than the pentium because a lot of games coming out dont even open if you have a pentium.

[SeanBond]

Overclocked pentium will be the best. I3 just a little behind it. amd at the back.

[ZetZet]

i3 if you don't overclock

860K if you do

 

 

Why can't 860K be compared to an i3 if it's a much better choice then the G3258 for newer AAA gaming

860k might be better than pentium, but definitely not better than i3. Even if it performs about the same the upgrade path is just not comparable.

[zappian]

 

Overclocked pentium will be the best. I3 just a little behind it.

 

The i3 is behind the pentium ? You have no clue.

 

Newer games like far cry 4 run like absolute and utter crap on a pentium even if you do the hotfixes to get them running on a dual core cpu.

 

For modern gaming the i3 is just better , plain and simple. 

 

There are some older games in which the OCed pentium is better but in basicly every brand new game coming out it inst enough.

 

Try running watch dogs , far cry 4 , DAI on a pentium are prepare yourself for frustration.

[ZetZet]

Try running watch dogs , far cry 4 , DAI on a pentium are prepare yourself for frustration.

or bf4 64 player multiplayer server  :lol:

[DigitalHermit]

people choose the g3258 rather than any athlon mostly for intels upgrade path

 

but the fm2+ socket is dead right now, the 860k is as good as it gets

 

Pardon the rudeness, but I'll have to oppose you here...

 

We're talking a low budget rig here... now, considering the budget of OP, how likely would he upgrade to say, an i5 or an i7 over getting a better GPU or more RAM in the next 3-4 years?

 

So you say the FM2+ socket is dead, isn't the 1150 on it's final 2 generations too?

 

I strongly suggest going i3 over G3258 but if OP is confident about overclocking, then 860K all the way... More multithreaded games are coming, and unless OP wishes only to play the older games, that's when the G3258 comes into play...

 

I'm only laying out the options here though...

 

As for OP, try to squeeze as  much cash into getting a good graphics card as you can without compromising too much on the CPU side...

[david cassar]

i3 is going to be the best of both worlds. Its going to have the single threaded performance of an overclocked pentium while its going to have 4 threads ( like the 860k). This means that newer games which aren't starting on the pentium will start on the i3. 
I3 vs 860k is still going to be the same story. The i3 is better than the 860k in gaming for sure. 
Benchmarks of 860k vs i3 :
http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/radek/2014/athlon_860K/charts/def/bf4_1920n.png
http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/radek/2014/athlon_860K/charts/def/fc3_1920n.png
http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/radek/2014/athlon_860K/charts/def/skyrim_1920n.png
Also to top it off in the future you can upgrade the i3 to an i7 which is absolutely insane. 
i3 is the best choice without a doubt.

[ZetZet]

So you say the FM2+ socket is dead, isn't the 1150 on it's final 2 generations too?

fm2+ is dead and 860k is the fastest there. 1150 might be in it's final generations, but there are i7's for this socket.

[Aniallation]

Overclocked pentium will be the best. I3 just a little behind it. amd at the back.

Uh, no.

 

It's i3 > 860K > G3258

[SeanBond]

Uh, no.

 

It's i3 > 860K > G3258

Overclocked g3258 wins every time bud. The i3 is just a hyperthread pentium minus the ability to overclock. 

[ZetZet]

Overclocked g3258 wins every time bud. The i3 is just a hyperthread pentium minus the ability to overclock. 

as much as you could like austin he chose the worst possible benchmarks for this.

[Aniallation]

 

Overclocked g3258 wins every time bud. The i3 is just a hyperthread pentium minus the ability to overclock. 

If you haven't noticed, nobody is linking that video any more. Any video that only shows average and/or maximum frame rate should NOT be used to compare the overclocked G3258 against other CPUs, because what they don't show you is the minimum frame rates and the stuttering which makes many newer AAA titles very annoying to play. Many people on this forum are now noticing these stuttering issues after upgrading their G3258's to i3/i5/i7 chips. Although 860K doesn't have as good of an upgrade path which makes it a worse "futureproof" contender then the i3, it still has MUCH less stuttering issues and lower frame times then the G3258.

[david cassar]

Overclocked g3258 wins every time bud. The i3 is just a hyperthread pentium minus the ability to overclock. 

That video is more overused than a south american prostitute. The Pentium although it beats out the athlon in most games has a feature which is missing. It doesn't have 4 threads. You can't start newer games on the pentium as they are fazing out dual core processors. The witcher 3 is probably going to do the same. And the i3 (and athlon) is better than the pentium in every single way because of this reason.

The i3 as i said is the best of both worlds. It has 4 threads and has the single threaded performance of Intel cpus, which means that it will start and play newer games while running older games flawlessly.

[Aniallation]

That video is more overused than a south american prostitute.

That is the best thing I have heard all month props to you my friend

[Aniallation]

Pardon the rudeness, but I'll have to oppose you here...

 

We're talking a low budget rig here... now, considering the budget of OP, how likely would he upgrade to say, an i5 or an i7 over getting a better GPU or more RAM in the next 3-4 years?

 

So you say the FM2+ socket is dead, isn't the 1150 on it's final 2 generations too?

FM2+ socket is "dead" as in there will be no better CPU then the 860K. At least for 1150 you have i5 and i7. And yes as games become more CPU demanding if OP is playing mostly AAA titles then upgrading to an i5 will be of benefit in the next few years.

[zappian]

 

 

Overclocked g3258 wins every time bud. The i3 is just a hyperthread pentium minus the ability to overclock. 

 

Thats the most delusional statement i have ever heard.

 

Like i said in some older games it wins , but in newer games the pentium , when you aploly 100 patches to make the damn game open

in the first place the pentium runs like crap.

 

Buy a pentium , oc it to death and play watch dogs or far cry 4 and then post back.

 

It will be a horrible experience.

[SeanBond]

If you haven't noticed, nobody is linking that video any more. Any video that only shows average and/or maximum frame rate should NOT be used to compare the overclocked G3258 against other CPUs, because what they don't show you is the minimum frame rates and the stuttering which makes many newer AAA titles very annoying to play. Many people on this forum are now noticing these stuttering issues after upgrading their G3258's to i3/i5/i7 chips. Although 860K doesn't have as good of an upgrade path which makes it a worse "futureproof" contender then the i3, it still has MUCH less stuttering issues and lower frame times then the G3258.

There are a dozen videos and reviews all the same. Stutter is only an issue in heavily threaded games. 99% og games are not heavily threaded.