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Unfortunately, the FX series CPUs have poor single threaded performance, which is crucial for many games. They have great multi threaded performance though due to their multiple cores. For a budget build, this actually makes them ideal for cheap yet powerful workstation CPUs, however for gaming they will struggle on many games, usually games that were made specifically for PC and not ported. These games include Planetside 2, Starcraft 2, WOW, and many others that rely heavily on single threaded performance. Other games that can take advantage of the more cores will run just fine, so some benchmarks will show an FX cpu doing well in games while others will show it failing miserably. Then you have the problem of needing an expensive motherboard and an aftermarket CPU cooler, and suddenly that $90 CPU jumps up to a $210 cost for the whole platform, making it compete with an Intel i5.

Even an i5-4440 with an h81 motherboard comes to around $210, so you dont actually save money with the FX. Then, since the i5 has both good simgle threaded and good multi threaded performance, it will play all games well. True the FX is good for many games, but why not get better performance and play ALL games well since it costs the same? For gaming, an Fx cpu doesnt make sense.

However, spend a bit more and you get an FX-8320 so youll have a great workstation CPU, albeit not a good gaming one. Their multithreaded performance per dollar is nothing to smirk at; its just their single threaded performance is so poor.

Hello internet,

I intent to update my heavily old rig. I've picked these parts since I'm on a budget:

· AMD FX-6300 CPU (gonna oc with 3rd party cooler to something like 4.5 if I can.

· Asrock 990FX Extreme3 AM3+ (happily would go lower if this is overkill?)

· Kingston HyperX 8GB 1866Mhz dual kit RAM

I have my friends old Sapphire HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 GPU what I intend to keep and try to flash to a 6970 (I know it's not the refrence model but my friend succeeded to flash it).

Note:

I have my old (I think 2008ish) LC-Power 8700 700W Semi-modular PSU which I also intend to keep cause it still works but I'm a bit conserned about the power effiency since it is "old tech?" Should I upgrade it to new one and maybe less wattage?

Last words,

My plan is to spend between 400-500€ on this and have a "future proofish" system that can play common and few newer titles at 60fps (ish) on my Sony 40" 1080p TV.

I use PC for youtube, games and web. Will this system meet my needs with the best bang for the buck or can I go with cheaper components? I don't need a lot of features other than little overclocking support and gaming machine.

Feel free to modificate this build and suggest stuff.

Thank you.

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fx6300 with 990x is bad combo because it's too expensive. I would always suggest intel over fx, but that's for some reason unpopular opinion or amd fanboys overpower.  :lol:

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your PSU isnt even on the list...

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Get an i5 4460, some B85 or H97 mobo that you prefer instead, they are miles better than AMD in gaming

 

Also I seriously have doubt about that PSU.....

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fx6300 with 990x is bad combo because it's too expensive. I would always suggest intel over fx, but that's for some reason unpopular opinion or amd fanboys overpower.  :lol:

That was not what he was not his question, Im not doing this fanboy bs w/ u again. The door is on the right.

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I don't mind if it's gonna be intel or amd. In my knowledge about these two is that Intel is far more expensive but gives more performanance.

If you could reply with a intel build at this pricepoint, I would be very happy since isn't intel more power efficient also?

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Get an i5 4460, some B85 or H97 mobo that you prefer instead, they are miles better than AMD in gaming

 

Also I seriously have doubt about that PSU.....

I think he already got the fx

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That was not what he was not his question, Im not doing this fanboy bs w/ u again. The door is on the right.

 

I think he already got the fx

He asked for feedback, I gave him feedback. And since i'm the one with the benchmarks and popular opinion you are the one fanboying.

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I don't mind if it's gonna be intel or amd. In my knowledge about these two is that Intel is far more expensive but gives more performanance.

If you could reply with a intel build at this pricepoint, I would be very happy since isn't intel more power efficient also?

intel is more expensive but uses cheeper mobos and run some what cooler, I would go with a i5 if you havent already got the fx. But get the fx if you plan to make vms or use apps that utilize more than one thread.

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He asked for feedback, I gave him feedback. And since i'm the one with the benchmarks and popular opinion you are the one fanboying.

Your argument is that intel is better because of popular opinion, really. Just, just go.

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intel is more expensive but uses cheeper mobos and run some what cooler, I would go with a i5 if you havent already got the fx. But get the fx if you plan to make vms or use apps that utilize more than one thread.

I don't plan doing any work related tasks on this build (I'm a designer). For work I have a mac (no pc vs mac war, please)

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Your argument is that intel is better because of popular opinion, really. Just, just go.

I didn't actually say that. I said intel has the tests and popular opinion. and is the key word.

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I didn't actually say that. I said intel has the tests and popular opinion. and is the key word.

Im just done with you.

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Im just done with you.

Good, because you have no idea how to debate, all your arguments are your opinion with no actual proof. Intel is more expensive in your mind and it performs worse.

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Good, because you have no idea how to debate, all your arguments are your opinion with no actual proof. Intel is more expensive in your mind and it performs worse.

WOW ur dumb kid

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WOW ur dumb kid

proving my point even further.

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proving my point even further.

I cant even

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proving my point even further.

quote me when I said intel was better than amd on performance 

Edit: also not what this thread is about so just leave now

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quote me when I said intel was better than amd on performance 

You said fx performs better in some tasks, which it does not, it does perform about the same in some tasks and it get completely destroyed in most orthers.

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Unfortunately, the FX series CPUs have poor single threaded performance, which is crucial for many games. They have great multi threaded performance though due to their multiple cores. For a budget build, this actually makes them ideal for cheap yet powerful workstation CPUs, however for gaming they will struggle on many games, usually games that were made specifically for PC and not ported. These games include Planetside 2, Starcraft 2, WOW, and many others that rely heavily on single threaded performance. Other games that can take advantage of the more cores will run just fine, so some benchmarks will show an FX cpu doing well in games while others will show it failing miserably. Then you have the problem of needing an expensive motherboard and an aftermarket CPU cooler, and suddenly that $90 CPU jumps up to a $210 cost for the whole platform, making it compete with an Intel i5.

Even an i5-4440 with an h81 motherboard comes to around $210, so you dont actually save money with the FX. Then, since the i5 has both good simgle threaded and good multi threaded performance, it will play all games well. True the FX is good for many games, but why not get better performance and play ALL games well since it costs the same? For gaming, an Fx cpu doesnt make sense.

However, spend a bit more and you get an FX-8320 so youll have a great workstation CPU, albeit not a good gaming one. Their multithreaded performance per dollar is nothing to smirk at; its just their single threaded performance is so poor.

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You said fx performs better in some tasks, which it does not, it does perform about the same in some tasks and it get completely destroyed in most orthers.

in what way do you think that this is helping the person that asked the question

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in what way do you think that this is helping the person that asked the question

It doesn't, it was you who ran into this thread with your fx fanboyism. I suggested intel immediatelly, which is what OP wants, an opinion which one is superior and you immediatelly quoted me telling me to get out. I think you have problems with your thought process.

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12700, B660M Mortar DDR4, 32GB 3200C16 Viper Steel, 2TB SN570, EVGA Supernova G6 850W, be quiet! 500FX, EVGA 3070Ti FTW3 Ultra.

 

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