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Unfortunately, the FX series CPUs have poor single threaded performance, which is crucial for many games. They have great multi threaded performance though due to their multiple cores. For a budget build, this actually makes them ideal for cheap yet powerful workstation CPUs, however for gaming they will struggle on many games, usually games that were made specifically for PC and not ported. These games include Planetside 2, Starcraft 2, WOW, and many others that rely heavily on single threaded performance. Other games that can take advantage of the more cores will run just fine, so some benchmarks will show an FX cpu doing well in games while others will show it failing miserably. Then you have the problem of needing an expensive motherboard and an aftermarket CPU cooler, and suddenly that $90 CPU jumps up to a $210 cost for the whole platform, making it compete with an Intel i5.

Even an i5-4440 with an h81 motherboard comes to around $210, so you dont actually save money with the FX. Then, since the i5 has both good simgle threaded and good multi threaded performance, it will play all games well. True the FX is good for many games, but why not get better performance and play ALL games well since it costs the same? For gaming, an Fx cpu doesnt make sense.

However, spend a bit more and you get an FX-8320 so youll have a great workstation CPU, albeit not a good gaming one. Their multithreaded performance per dollar is nothing to smirk at; its just their single threaded performance is so poor.

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It doesn't, it was you who ran into this thread with your fx fanboyism. I suggested intel immediatelly, which is what OP wants, an opinion which one is superior and you immediatelly quoted me telling me to get out. I think you have problems with your thought process.

y dont yo go re read this thread when i recommended a i5. I also find it I ironic that you are calling me a amd fanboy when I am sending you these post from a i5.  You are the only fanboy here atm.

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y dont yo go re read this thread when i recommended a i5. I also find it I ironic that you are calling me a amd fanboy when I am sending you these post from a i5.  You are the only fanboy here atm.

I recommended intel and you told me to leave the thread, how is that not fanboying? I really don't get what you think.

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I recommended intel and you told me to leave the thread, how is that not fanboying? I really don't get what you think.

I was fairly certain he already owns the amd, so you were suggesting that he should just buy a intel witch would mean that he would have to sell his current rig for less than he just bought it for. You recommending intel is fine as long as the question is what should i get not what should i do witch my pre existing system. how ever now I think recommending the i5 was justified. This is because in the orignal post he said "ive picked up these parts" then listed the fx. However now he has specified further in the thread.

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Back to the OP, considering what you have, the only component I'd use is the GPU, although to be honest that may need an upgrade shortly depending on what games you play and at what settings. As such, this would be the rest of the build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£130.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£62.06 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£57.60 @ Kustom PCs)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£80.39 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case  (£26.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£36.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £430.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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You could remove the SSD to save money if you'd like as it offers no in-game performance increase, but it will make the whole experience feel snappier as it decreases boot and load times.

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I was fairly certain he already owns the amd, so you were suggesting that he should just buy a intel witch would mean that he would have to sell his current rig for less than he just bought it for. You recommending intel is fine as long as the question is what should i get not what should i do witch my pre existing system. how ever now I think recommending the i5 was justified. This is because in the orignal post he said "ive picked up these parts" then listed the fx. However now he has specified further in the thread.

there was no picked up, he said picked. you should read a little more.

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I was fairly certain he already owns the amd, so you were suggesting that he should just buy a intel witch would mean that he would have to sell his current rig for less than he just bought it for. You recommending intel is fine as long as the question is what should i get not what should i do witch my pre existing system. how ever now I think recommending the i5 was justified. This is because in the orignal post he said "ive picked up these parts" then listed the fx. However now he has specified further in the thread.

Look, the OP clearly stated before you even replied that he was open to both Intel and AMD rigs. You made a mistake. Everyone does; it's okay. Going on and on about it isn't.

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Thank you so much Lotus for your helpful replies on the actual matter x) And I think ZetZet had a solid thing going on from the beginning.

Now, I want to make this a bit more clear:

All that I need is cpu, mobo, ram, psu and maybe a new case "for the fresh feel" but let's forget the case for now. I have already a ssd+hdd combo so let's say 300-450 for cpu, mobo, ram and a psu (the gpu will be later on upgraded).

Lotus, that build you listed. Is it overclockable?

I'm sorry for the late reply

Thank you for your help!

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Nope, it's not overclockable, but honestly that in and of itself means nothing. The only reason to overclock is for better performance, and that build's CPU has sufficient performance for everything you'd want to do and then some. With what you said, this is what I would do (it's just the original build minus the parts you said you didn't need):

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£130.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£62.06 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£57.60 @ Kustom PCs)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£36.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £287.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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or if you felt like you absolutely HAD to spend more money just to overclock (clock speed difference with overclocking is the ONLY benefit to this build):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£173.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£25.44 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£75.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£57.60 @ Kustom PCs)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£36.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £369.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-14 18:37 GMT+0000

 

Although at this point, you'd almost be better off saving that money for a GPU upgrade soon to come. The CPU in the first build is more than capable of handling any game at ultra settings at 60FPS, so while the second one is better, it's not really better in a way that's immediately impactful. IMO you're better saving your money and putting it towards a new GPU soon.

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