Why all the hate about the...

[Spewky]

Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Chroma... 

 

I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this and a bunch of K70 fanboys commenting about how Corsair rules and such but I'm not sure why people are hating on the keyboard. People are getting so serious about it and I find it hilarious. It's a keyboard. Razer has worked on the keyboard and in my opinion is competitive to the Corsair K70 RGB... It has good lighting and IMHO good keys that yes, are made in China and aren't Cherry MX switches. Cherry MX switches are popular and lots of people love them as there are a wide variety of them but in my opinion, the key types on the Razer Blackwidow Chroma are completely find and still great to use for gaming...

 

I don't want your hateful comments (or comments at all) on what you think about it, I like it. And it's my personal preference and you can take your opinions elsewhere.

 

People have their own opinions and are free too, but I have mine (which is thinking that it isn't bad) and others have their own. Just because it isn't the "in" switch that everybody else uses and loves doesn't mean it's bad and doesn't mean it's "cheap" of Razer.

 

Goodbye. 

[Archangel1994]

It's not so much the switch they're concerned about, more the build quality. 

 

Blackwidows have a very high failure rate when compared to other keyboards

[FluffiestPond]

Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Chroma... 

 

I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this and a bunch of K70 fanboys commenting about how Corsair rules and such but I'm not sure why people are hating on the keyboard. People are getting so serious about it and I find it hilarious. It's a keyboard. Razer has worked on the keyboard and in my opinion is competitive to the Corsair K70 RGB... It has good lighting and IMHO good keys that yes, are made in China and aren't Cherry MX switches. Cherry MX switches are popular and lots of people love them as there are a wide variety of them but in my opinion, the key types on the Razer Blackwidow Chroma are completely find and still great to use for gaming...

 

I don't want your hateful comments (or comments at all) on what you think about it, I like it. And it's my personal preference and you can take your opinions elsewhere.

 

People have their own opinions and are free too, but I have mine (which is thinking that it isn't bad) and others have their own. Just because it isn't the "in" switch that everybody else uses and loves doesn't mean it's bad and doesn't mean it's "cheap" of Razer.

 

Goodbye. 

[ShadowCaptain]

SNIP

 

Probably because a lot of people (me included) do not particularly like razer products, they are often poorly build, over hyped, over marketed, and there are often better alternatives

 

Also, the quality control of the razer switches is not that great, and there are some inconsistency between keys (not guaranteed but has been noted)

[jayctech]

My issue is they don't use Cherry.

I'm not the type to dish out for RGB anyway. Hell.. I don't even use the lights on my regular K70.

 

As for it being "cheap" of Razer.. Well.. I don't recall the name of their non-RGB mech keyboard line.. But when they updated to their latest models (that don't use Cherry) they kept the price the same and essentially pocketed the difference. I mean.. I'm not debating whether that's good, bad or immoral, but it certainly is cheap of them.

 

I don't have enough experience with their products to fully evaluate them.

That said I did play with their new clicky keyboard (before the RGB) at a store and honestly.. It felt like a membrane with a click.

[Spewky]

Funny thing is I stated in the original post that

 

 

I don't want your hateful comments (or comments at all) on what you think about it, I like it. And it's my personal preference and you can take your opinions elsewhere.

So... yeah... I stated what I thought, that's all I wanted. Didn't want anyone to say anything...

[MrSuperb]

It's not so much the switch they're concerned about, more the build quality. 

 

Blackwidows have a very high failure rate when compared to other keyboards

 

 

I have my doubts, that there actually is any kind of data to back that claim ... other then the usual Razer hate.

[Spewky]

I have my doubts, that there actually is any kind of data to back that claim ... other then the usual Razer hate.

It's normally hate for the keys, not so much the bad build quality.

 

Some say that if you (try to) bend it it'll snap, which is a complete lie... -_____-

[ShadowCaptain]

Funny thing is I stated in the original post that

 

So... yeah... I stated what I thought, that's all I wanted. Didn't want anyone to say anything...

 

So you ask us why all the hate... then tell us we cannot comment on it

 

then we cannot answer your question

 

Objectively, khail switches are lower quality, and cheaper, but razer did not make their keyboards cheaper

 

but honestly razer stuff is not that great, they have a few decent products, but 80% of it, is over priced for its quality

[JAKEBAB]

Never even heard any hate on this but still its a razer product which means its overpriced will most likely break fairly early and it isnt even using cherry switches so they are spending less on the keyboard in that sense but are still charging bs amount.

[QueenDemetria]

I personally don't care what keyboards other people use(because its so subjective), but when it comes to key switches I will never use a Kailh based keyboard ever again. Before my CM Quickfire Rapid, I had a Zalman ZM-K500(Kailh Red switches) and a Rapoo V7(Kailh Yellow switches), and each keyboard lasted just short of a year(after many repairs). They failed due to switch failure(15red, 12yellow to be exact), so considering that my Quickfire is 2+ years old and has shown no signs of failure(with much harder use) and my K70 is approaching 1 year without any repairs, so I just cant use or recommend anything Kailh based. Maybe with the Razer deal they are using tighter tolerances and ensuring higher quality, but I am not going to spend $100+ to find out.

[MrSuperb]

It's normally hate for the keys, not so much the bad build quality.

 

Some say that if you (try to) bend it it'll snap, which is a complete lie... -_____-

 

I just ordered a Blackwidow Ultimate today. So I hope it isn't total crap

 

I only have/had 2 Razer mice that still work perfectly fine (Deathadder used for almost 6 years).

[jayctech]

Funny thing is I stated in the original post that

 

So... yeah... I stated what I thought, that's all I wanted. Didn't want anyone to say anything...

Then you made 2 mistakes:

• You posted on an open forum
• The name of a topic is "Why all the hate about the..." which invites answers/comments

[ImBleu]

-snip-

 

 

Want to know why there is hate?

 

1. Not Cherry MX, I think the fast majority of tech people have made it clear that it's Cherry or bust. 

 

2. It's Razer. As trivial as it sounds most people (me included) don't like razer because razer is razer. It appeals to the 13 year old 'gamer' cohort and is personally something I don't want to be apart of, I'd rather have a more slick looking machine, hence why I go for a premium brand like Corsair.

 

3. Build Quality. I've owned a razer product in the past (god forbid), It failed after less than a month and felt so frail and plastic-y that I was afraid to use it.

[nhatduy1611]

Razer product is very 50/50 on the durability. I first razer product was a deathadder 2013 has problem that occur when i plug the mouse in sometime it doesn't turn on and i have to wait a couple of minute before i can use it. Also the deathadder broke after 5 month even though i have a carrying case to protect it. If i want to spend money on an expensive product i want it to at least last me 2 years.

[Spewky]

I wanted people to read this post and understand that we all have opinions. I then stated I didn't want people posting hate posts and all about it but it was clearly too hard...

 

Even though I did ask a question, then state I don't want replies and all that I just wanted people to understand about opinions.

 

Because opinions are opinions.

 

Everyone has one.

 

And this is really annoying me now. If there was a way to disable comments that would be handy at this time and if there is, I didn't know about it. If you'd read the entire original post and fully understand and take it into mind and then not post a comment that would be amazing and agknowledge that we all have opinions and I don't want you to comment it as it's annoying and there's enough hate posts.

[Analog]

My issue is they don't use Cherry.

I'm not the type to dish out for RGB anyway. Hell.. I don't even use the lights on my regular K70.

 

They don't use Cherry but they charge as if the were, hence, making more money on the backs of the end user, who in most cases has no idea what type of switch he is buying. Especially people who buy Razer peripherals in most cases, excluding the Deathadder 2014, which is quote on quote "a decent product," haven't tried it myself, do it just for the branding and the status they think it gives them. 

[jayctech]

They don't use Cherry but they charge as if the were, hence, making more money on the backs of the end user, who in most cases has no idea what type of switch he is buying. Especially people who buy Razer peripherals in most cases, excluding the Deathadder 2014, which is quote on quote "a decent product," haven't tried it myself, do it just for the branding and the status they think it gives them. 

You missed the rest of that exact post.

[Analog]

You missed the rest of that exact post.

 

Nah, I read it, I just wanted to stress on that fact again, because I find it very annoying and frankly wrong in general. Even painting the switches blue and calling them blue switches, knowingly that their other older keyboards use only Cherry blue switches... Bad Razer, very bad...

[OLYCAT]

Funny thing is I stated in the original post that

 

So... yeah... I stated what I thought, that's all I wanted. Didn't want anyone to say anything...

 

 

You were probably better off making a blog about your feelings then, as a message board / forum, it is the nature of the beast to respond to a post.

[lutewan]

Funny thing is I stated in the original post that

 

So... yeah... I stated what I thought, that's all I wanted. Didn't want anyone to say anything...

wel son thats not how the internet works

[KemoKa]

Because of their build quality, which ties into the fact that they started making their own switches, which just sort of annoys me. I don't mind Razer, I think there are much better choices, but I also think that having a player like them around is a good thing. They do a nice job on aesthetics. In that regard, they're very much like Apple. (look at the Razer Blade)

HOWEVER, this move that they did on the Black Widow just sort of annoys me. Like, a LOT. I'm sorry, but Cherry MX switches are the industry standard for mechanical keyboards, and Razer saying that their imported chinese switches beat Cherry's by 10 million keystrokes? I'm sorry, that's not going to happen. We all know what the Black Widow was like with the highest-quality switches on the market, but now with fake switches... Why would they do this? It's nothing more than saving costs, not just from the marketing they get on diehard Razer fanboys who will immediately abandon their Cherry keyboards as garbage, but also from the money they inevitably save from using mock switches, so even if their keyboard doesn't sell as well as they'd hoped (please?) they don't get hit so hard. Now, resorting to tactics like that to save money, what does that tell you about Razer as a company?

I have much different reasons for buying Cooler Master's keyboards. I've felt a Black Widow, and I've torqued on my TK as hard as I can and there is no comparison. I buy mechanical keyboards for their durability, not just good looks. the K series for example, absolutely beautiful keyboards and first-rate build quality to boot, but you wouldn't want to use one as a club like you can with a Quickfire. If I can have a backlit keyboard with a few lighting options, MX Blues and a nice thick backplate, that is the keyboard I will have, and needless to say, do have.

[Thronar]

I swear we just had a "why do people hate razer" thread a week ago 

[olbaze]

For me, the issue isn't necessarily the Chroma lineup itself, but what it represents. Razer is rehashing their peripherals with a useless gimmick, which is something that they never used to do.

 

In comparison, while Corsair and SteelSeries are also releasing RGB mechanicals, they're at least changing something noteworthy. Corsair (well, Cherry) freaking had to re-do their switch housing to make RGB possible, whereas SteelSeries is re-releasing Apex as a mechanical keyboard.

 

Now, re-releasing good, popular products like the DeathAdder and Naga to keep them from being outdated and dying out like the IME 3.0, that's a good thing.

[Whorax]

I don't want your hateful comments (or comments at all) on what you think about it, I like it. And it's my personal preference and you can take your opinions elsewhere.

mfw he makes a thread on a public forum and tells people not to respond if they don't agree...

 

Very ironic rant you're going on since you're talking about fanboys and it seems a lot like you're a Razer fanboy trying to justify your liking of their products...

 

This might be one notch worse than shitposting.