Will Pirating Electronic Become A Thing?

[tony727]

I find this to be great!

I have quite a few projects that I would like to have a PCB printed for instead of a messed of solder and wires.

[Trik'Stari]

At a certain point, this kind of "piracy" becomes "micro manufacturing" and simply makes the idea of a traditional corporation, and in fact the idea of an "economy" obsolete.

 

It's called The Replicator, from star trek. Why would we need money, or a traditional economy, when we can just make everything we could ever need, from home, from recycled matter?

 

Where will the designs and innovations come from you ask? See:

the Open Source Movement

[Kukielka]

I actually like the Idea of printing your own pcbs, brings technology forward :3

[Master Disaster]

Meanwhile the electronics industry is looking into ways of replacing current technology because its pretty much maxxed out.

By the time this is relevant it will be redundant, at least for consumer grade electronics.

[DeScruff]

It will probably be something someday, but I would imagine though you would only be able to do it with "simpler"/retro electronics.
Let just say in 50 years 3D printing becomes the way of manufacturing everything. The 3D printers companies use will probably be magnitudes better than anything you could buy for home use, and everything will probably be designed with a factory grade printer in mind.
Its like rendering a Pixar movie, even if you somehow got all the files to do so, you just aren't going to be able to render that using your consumer grade technology.

[StingBull]

At a certain point, this kind of "piracy" becomes "micro manufacturing" and simply makes the idea of a traditional corporation, and in fact the idea of an "economy" obsolete.

It's called The Replicator, from star trek. Why would we need money, or a traditional economy, when we can just make everything we could ever need, from home, from recycled matter?

Where will the designs and innovations come from you ask? See:

the Open Source Movement

Economy will take a huge hit and will have to change if replicators are invented but it won't disappear since you still need the raw materials and recycling the stuff around you will only take you so far.

[asdfgh00]

hmm.. so if this happens my plan will be.

 

1. Print different parts for a larger printer

2. use the bigger printer to print smaller printer

3. print more bigger printer.

4. sell the smaller printer.

5. ???

6. print mone- I mean profit

[stconquest]

Economy will take a huge hit and will have to change if replicators are invented but it won't disappear since you still need the raw materials and recycling the stuff around you will only take you so far.

For most people, the world economy is taking punches everyday.  It is really more like a shell game at higher levels.  Hide the true trend of the current economic patterns, and show the people a fantastical perception of that economy.  Don't want to rustle too many feathers all at once now.

 

Edit:  Damnit, off-topic....where's the Global Ecomony Rant thread?

 

Science moves forward regardless.  Our brains are designed to keep us solving problems.

[Trik'Stari]

Economy will take a huge hit and will have to change if replicators are invented but it won't disappear since you still need the raw materials and recycling the stuff around you will only take you so far.

True, but the days of oligopolies are numbered.

 

For most people, the world economy is taking punches everyday.  It is really more like a shell game at higher levels.  Hide the true trend of the current economic patterns, and show the people a fantastical perception of that economy.  Don't want to rustle too many feathers all at once now.

 

Edit:  Damnit, off-topic....where's the Global Ecomony Rant thread?

 

Science moves forward regardless.  Our brains are designed to keep us solving problems.

Could not agree more.

 

It will probably be something someday, but I would imagine though you would only be able to do it with "simpler"/retro electronics.

Let just say in 50 years 3D printing becomes the way of manufacturing everything. The 3D printers companies use will probably be magnitudes better than anything you could buy for home use, and everything will probably be designed with a factory grade printer in mind.

Its like rendering a Pixar movie, even if you somehow got all the files to do so, you just aren't going to be able to render that using your consumer grade technology.

 

Eventually, someone will get hold of one of those "enterprise" grade machines, and use it to build more enterprise grade machines, and sell them for dirt cheap. Otherwise known as a Von Neumann machine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_machine

[zacRupnow]

I would print myself an EMPIRE. 

1- Get 3d printer

2- print more printers

3- repeat step 2 continuously removing one printer from printing each time

4- use removed printers to print anything valuable (PCs, cars, parts, cocaine,  jewelry, etc.)

5- sell valuable printed items

6- print printing factories

7- print the Trade Federation and begin war

8- print the Cloner's planet Kamino and Jedi Master Syphedias

9- sell Clone army to USA

10- end war

11- Rule the Galaxy

[babbaj]

Guys stop being so amazed it isn't that amazing and it's in almost no way better than traditional PCB manufacturing 

 

t

 

It will probably be something someday, but I would imagine though you would only be able to do it with "simpler"/retro electronics.
Let just say in 50 years 3D printing becomes the way of manufacturing everything. The 3D printers companies use will probably be magnitudes better than anything you could buy for home use, and everything will probably be designed with a factory grade printer in mind.
Its like rendering a Pixar movie, even if you somehow got all the files to do so, you just aren't going to be able to render that using your consumer grade technology.

kind of ironic how pixar movies are literally rendered with consumer grade technology

 

 

When this comes out. Time to print me some extreme i7s, motherboards and gpus.

too bad this will always be irrelevant 

[stconquest]

 

Guys stop being so amazed it isn't that amazing and it's in almost no way better than traditional PCB manufacturing 

 

t

 

kind of ironic how pixar movies are literally rendered with consumer grade technology

 

 

too bad this will always be irrelevant 

 

Learn to dream my friend...L2D =).

[MadSprite]

As more people buy 3D printers the cartridges will get cheaper (like what happened with printer ink). I would expect the prices to drop substantially if 3D printers became as common as normal printers. There is also the possibility of in-home recycling. Imagine being able to take metals and/or plastic you don’t need and just drop them in a recycler that turns them into usable printer cartridges.

Where its still cheaper to buy a $30 printer at walmart that includes ink, than to buy the dual ink refills for $25.

[MadSprite]

A lifetime in a persons life is virtually a millenia in terms of electronics.

I could easily see it happening within 10 years.

Think about it. 20 years ago we hardly had internet or computers at all.

to print a computer? maybe a low power one, not a good one. Think about what were talking about here; the process involved in creating processors, and in the future these will be even crazier processors like 8 nm, is way to complex to be just printed at home by a 3d printer. There are some parts that we will not be able to do this with.

 

Also the backlash from manufacturing companies would be humongous the second this becomes a possibility, which I'm not saying will make pirating this stuff impossible, but will delay it considerably.

 

Considering processors are already made through 3D printing like process that is done over so many times. Why not just get the machine that makes processors since its essentially a precise down to the nm 3D printer.

Also the printer is just a 3D circuit board printer, so its a step forward, but not yet transistor making yet.

[shujin]

YES FINALLY it will be a thing 

[dizmo]

to print a computer? maybe a low power one, not a good one. Think about what were talking about here; the process involved in creating processors, and in the future these will be even crazier processors like 8 nm, is way to complex to be just printed at home by a 3d printer. There are some parts that we will not be able to do this with.

 

Also the backlash from manufacturing companies would be humongous the second this becomes a possibility, which I'm not saying will make pirating this stuff impossible, but will delay it considerably.

Three years ago(ish) we didn't even have 3D printers. So. Yes, it's entirely possible that in a couple decades we're there.

You're probably too young to fully grasp both the passing of time and the speed of which technology advances.

[AndThenThereWas1]

 

Guys stop being so amazed it isn't that amazing and it's in almost no way better than traditional PCB manufacturing

Not yet it isnt, but who knows what the future holds...