Difference between different OHM headphones?

[RevoltTrain]

I've noticed that the DT 770 Pro has a 250OHM , 32OHM, and 80OHM versions. What's the difference between the 3? Do they sound any different than each other?

[MrSuperb]

Do they sound any different than each other?

yes.

[RevoltTrain]

yes.

How are they different sound signature wise?

[aidenrelkoff]

How are they different sound signature wise?

not by much. oviously the 80 would sound better, but they need ALOT more power to drive them and just plugging them into your motherboard will make them sound worse then $25 on ears

 

get the 32OHM. If they had a 60OMH version i would get that.

[Lutkeveld]

oviously the 800 would sound better

 

Please explain

 

I'm almost puking everytime such a thread comes up. Don't get me wrong, but you're not putting any effort into this, this has been discussed here SOOO many times.

[Mao_Zedong]

Please explain

 

I'm almost puking everytime such a thread comes up. Don't get me wrong, but you're not putting any effort into this, this has been discussed here SOOO many times.

A higher impedance (more OHMs) will take more power to drive, but there will be less static in the background. That is the only real difference.

[RevoltTrain]

not by much. oviously the 800 would sound better, but they need ALOT more power to drive them and just plugging them into your motherboard will make them sound worse then $25 on ears

 

get the 32OHM. If they had a 60OMH version i would get that.

I can get the 80 OHM version for $140USD, is it worth it to take advantage of the deal and pick up an AMP / DAC in the near future? (Right after Christmas)

[aidenrelkoff]

Please explain

 

I'm almost puking everytime such a thread comes up. Don't get me wrong, but you're not putting any effort into this, this has been discussed here SOOO many times.

 thats not what i said. dont take my words out of context..

 

read the whole thing...

 

"not by much. oviously the 80 would sound better, but they need ALOT more power to drive them and just plugging them into your motherboard will make them sound worse then $25 on ears"

 

get the 32OHM. If they had a 60OMH version i would get that.

 

And just to clear things up. MY post helped the OP in some way. YOUR post talking crap about me has zero input of any useful information into this thread.

[aidenrelkoff]

I can get the 80 OHM version for $140USD, is it worth it to take advantage of the deal and pick up an AMP / DAC in the near future? (Right after Christmas)

yes do that. they will sound nicer.

[RevoltTrain]

yes do that. they will sound nicer.

Awesome! Thanks for the help!

[Lutkeveld]

 thats not what i said. dont take my words out of context..

 

read the whole thing...

 

"not by much. oviously the 80 would sound better, but they need ALOT more power to drive them and just plugging them into your motherboard will make them sound worse then $25 on ears"

 

get the 32OHM. If they had a 60OMH version i would get that.

 

And just to clear things up. MY post helped the OP in some way. YOUR post talking crap about me has zero input of any useful information into this thread.

 

Had to phrase that better, the second part was meant for OP.

I still don't get the bolt part. Are we comparing it with the 32 ohm version? Then we're talking about a ~4db difference, not very much.

Maybe I was exaggerating with my 'puking', but  'sound worse than 25 dollar on ears' is also a bit over the top ;p.

[creatip123]

Had to phrase that better, the second part was meant for OP.

I still don't get the bolt part. Are we comparing it with the 32 ohm version? Then we're talking about a ~4db difference, not very much.

Maybe I was exaggerating with my 'puking', but  'sound worse than 25 dollar on ears' is also a bit over the top ;p.

 

And definitely false, if I can get a used HD800 for $25, with a loaded gun pointing at the previous owner's head....

[Guest]

not by much. oviously the 80 would sound better, but they need ALOT more power to drive them and just plugging them into your motherboard will make them sound worse then $25 on ears

 

get the 32OHM. If they had a 60OMH version i would get that.

 

As all models have the same sensitivity they should require the same amount of power to drive to the same volume. The reason that the lower impedance models get louder is because they will draw more power from a constant voltage (and most sources output the same voltage regardless of load). Overall the DT line is sensitive enough that even the 250 ohm can be driven comfortably by most onboard sound.

[Aphexx]

my dt770 80ohm can get dangerously loud off motherboard.
off an old iphone I have to keep it near cranked not max but near it

[ShearMe]

There is no debate to be had here. Tyll's graphed the different impedance versions of the DT880 and they're all within margin of error. It's not like Beyerdynamic has strict standards on driver performance for such a low cost headphone. Just look at the differences between the Left and Right channels. Also, they all take about the same amount of power to drive (at the bottom right of the PDF). Higher impedances require more voltage, not more power.

 

32ohm

250ohm

600ohm

[BoredErica]

not by much. oviously the 80 would sound better, but they need ALOT more power to drive them and just plugging them into your motherboard will make them sound worse then $25 on ears

 

get the 32OHM. If they had a 60OMH version i would get that.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

True facts.

Cancer.

Literal.

 

Bye.

[aidenrelkoff]

my dt770 80ohm can get dangerously loud off motherboard.

off an old iphone I have to keep it near cranked not max but near it

yeah, my hyperx clouds can get loud too. there 60OHM. how ever they do sound better on an amp. So my recommendation is that anything with a 60+ OHm rating sound a little better with an AMP because the first thing to do bad is bass\lows. they might start to sound "muddy" as Logan put it.

[BoredErica]

yeah, my hyperx clouds can get loud too. there 60OHM. how ever they do sound better on an amp. So my recommendation is that anything with a 60+ OHm rating sound a little better with an AMP because the first thing to do bad is bass\lows. they might start to sound "muddy" as Logan put it.

Please explain to me what "ohm" is a measure of and how it is relevant to an amp and its abilities to power a headphone.

And what type of testing did you do? ABX, double blind, etc?

[Guest]

yeah, my hyperx clouds can get loud too. there 60OHM. how ever they do sound better on an amp. So my recommendation is that anything with a 60+ OHm rating sound a little better with an AMP because the first thing to do bad is bass\lows. they might start to sound "muddy" as Logan put it.

 

ffs stop

[creatip123]

yeah, my hyperx clouds can get loud too. there 60OHM. how ever they do sound better on an amp. So my recommendation is that anything with a 60+ OHm rating sound a little better with an AMP because the first thing to do bad is bass\lows. they might start to sound "muddy" as Logan put it.

 

I'd say, yes and no.

 

Yes, adding a (good) amp might potentially make the sound a bit better (even if it does, not by much).

 

No, even if it got better, it's not because of 'bigger power' (unless your onboard falls far behind), but mostly because of lower output impedance, better component quality, better circuit implementation of the amp. 

 

Yes, an additional amp will definitely make the headphone sound louder, compared to without an additional amp

 

No, unless the source can't really go that high of volume, you won't need an additional amp in context of making it louder. Because, say with an additional amp you can go from 'loud enough' volume to 'dangerously loud, hearing loss imminent', you won't go for the latter, would you? With an additional amp, you'd still play it at the convenient and comfortable level of volume. 

[xtroria]

not by much. oviously the 80 would sound better, but they need ALOT more power to drive them and just plugging them into your motherboard will make them sound worse then $25 on ears

 

get the 32OHM. If they had a 60OMH version i would get that.

yeah, my hyperx clouds can get loud too. there 60OHM. how ever they do sound better on an amp. So my recommendation is that anything with a 60+ OHm rating sound a little better with an AMP because the first thing to do bad is bass\lows. they might start to sound "muddy" as Logan put it.

 

This is a cancerous madness, don't ever listen to this.

 

Impedance doesn't mean everything. It's somewhat true that higher impedance headphone is harder to drive and sounds better with an amp. But 300 ohm headphones aren't always harder to drive than 50 ohm headphone and it won't sound better because of it. 

 

Otherwise, all hail DT880 600 ohm headphone, the basher of LCD-3, the almighty ruler of sennheiser orpheus, the slayer of Stax SR-009.

 

HE-6 & HE-4, both are super hard to drive headphones are only 50 ohm & 38 ohm (yes you're reading it right) 

 

There's something called sensitivity (generally dB / mW), more sensitive headphones with the same impedance will require less power overall to have the same loudness level of the headphone with less sensitivity.

 

 

And definitely false, if I can get a used HD800 for $25, with a loaded gun pointing at the previous owner's head....

 

Heh, I will fight you all one by one IRL for a properly working HD800 at $25

[creatip123]

Heh, I will fight you all one by one IRL for a properly working HD800 at $25

 

Either use violence, or go to their factory, get on my knee and beg them with puppy dog eyes.

 

Also, hey, you changed your avatar, I didn't recognize you earlier. Yeah, I'm Jakarta-nian (new coined term). You went to the last USF in Jakarta?

[xtroria]

Either use violence, or go to their factory, get on my knee and beg them with puppy dog eyes.

 

Also, hey, you changed your avatar, I didn't recognize you earlier. Yeah, I'm Jakarta-nian (new coined term). You went to the last USF in Jakarta?

No, I'm in seattle right now, so i didn't go there

 

As another we indonesian, you know how we solve things, RIOT or nothing

[BoredErica]

yeah, my hyperx clouds can get loud too. there 60OHM. how ever they do sound better on an amp. So my recommendation is that anything with a 60+ OHm rating sound a little better with an AMP because the first thing to do bad is bass\lows. they might start to sound "muddy" as Logan put it.

Please explain to me what "ohm" is a measure of and how it is relevant to an amp and its abilities to power a headphone.

And what type of testing did you do? ABX, double blind, etc?

Not in the mood to explain your BS?

 

 

Either use violence, or go to their factory, get on my knee and beg them with puppy dog eyes.

 

Also, hey, you changed your avatar, I didn't recognize you earlier. Yeah, I'm Jakarta-nian (new coined term). You went to the last USF in Jakarta?

Jakartian sounds like a real term.

Or Jakarian.

Jakarianian is too long.

[xtroria]

Jakartian sounds like a real term.

Or Jakarian.

Jakarianian is too long.

 

I would call us (since both he & I are from jakarta) "Jakarta-ns"