Which build is better?

[Mohenjo]

ok me and my friend are having a debate. he says Im going overbaord with the gpu and my cpu isnt fast enough. EVEN though im paring a i5 with a 970... anyway here are the builds

MY BUILD

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HPThBm

 

 

HIS BUILD

EVGA GTX 970 SC- $370

AMD Vishera fx 8350- $180

Razer Black Widow Ultimate non-stealth (backlight)- $90

Acer G6 series 19.5”- $100 NOTE: the 24” version is normally $130, but is sold out on Newegg, when I move it over to PCP it will update.

Rosewill Galaxy-01- $40

G.Skill Ripjaw X series 2x 4GB 1600 MHz- $78

Windows 8.1 Full version 32 & 64 bit- $120

Apevia 700W 80+ bronze- $65

 

 

Heres the email he sent me taht ticked me off and made me make this post 

 

The 19.5 is a placeholder

 

You need to stop it with these GPUs, its EXCESSIVE

 

You are building a machine with a weak CPU and a ridiculous graphics card.

 

You need a better rounded machine- that means more memory, better motherboard, better CPU, and cool it down on the graphics.

 

With your current setup, he will barely be able to run BF4 because of a weak CPU.

 

Go with a GTX 770, it will do anything he needs it to, the extra 8 GB memory is crucial, and stick with AMD, its better for gaming.

[ZetZet]

Your cpu will do better in games. And it will definitely be getting same fps in bf4 maybe a little more even. And in orther games it will fly past the fx.

 

and stick with AMD, its better for gaming.

your friend is not very good at building computers.

 

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-4670k-4670-4570-4430_5.html

Here. FX loses in every single thing.

[QuadNine]

The i5 would be good for gaming, however, If you are doing streaming, and video editing and this stuff then the 8350, all the way. The 8350 isn't shit as some people might have you think. Also you should get 3rd party cooler and overclock the 8350 if you are getting it. Just my opinion.

[JoaoPRSousa]

Send this to your friend:

 

 

BTW do you already have the build you posted?

[Katsu-K1L]

i'm sorry but your friend is retarded, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

just ignore him and go with the first build its better

[Mohenjo]

Send this to your friend:

 

 

BTW do you already have the build you posted?

its for another friend whos building a pc 

[Recon97]

I find your build fascinating. You friend can go to hell.

[JoaoPRSousa]

its for another friend whos building a pc 

 

But have you bought the parts already?

[Mohenjo]

But have you bought the parts already?

No

[JoaoPRSousa]

No

 

Let me change some things then

[JoaoPRSousa]

And if the budget allows, add a CM Hyper 212 EVO

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($188.69 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($82.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.49 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer  ($17.55 @ OutletPC) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($90.26 @ OutletPC) 

Monitor: BenQ GW2255 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($104.98 @ NCIX US) 

Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill N600PCE 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($19.98 @ OutletPC) 

Keyboard: A4Tech 3100N Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($29.88 @ Amazon) 

Total: $1050.77

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 13:38 EST-0500

[Hydra]

I think your friend is jealous or something. 

[Stardar1]

I am the friend who emailed this list to him, there has been an update:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dNhpNG

 

I am attempting to convince him that the GTX 970 is over the rop for a $1100 rig- including OS, Keyboard, and Monitor.

[JoaoPRSousa]

I am the friend who emailed this list to him, there has been an update:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dNhpNG

 

I am attempting to convince him that the GTX 970 is over the rop for a $1100 rig- including OS, Keyboard, and Monitor.

 

You do not need 16GB of RAM.

You can get the 970 for 50$ more and it is WAY better than the 770.

That PSU wouldn't handle the system properly, if you OCed the CPU or the GPU.

That case isn't that great.

And the keyboard isn't that good either.

[Mohenjo]

You do not need 16GB of RAM.

You can get the 970 for 50$ more and it is WAY better than the 770.

That PSU wouldn't handle the system properly, if you OCed the CPU or the GPU.

That case isn't that great.

And the keyboard isn't that good either.

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-970-vs-GeForce-GTX-770

 

yup 

[Stardar1]

You do not need 16GB of RAM.

You can get the 970 for 50$ more and it is WAY better than the 770.

That PSU wouldn't handle the system properly, if you OCed the CPU or the GPU.

That case isn't that great.

And the keyboard isn't that good either.

 

 

the PSU will handle the system according to PCP

Have you used the Blackwidow, the switches are the best I've felt

case is a placeholder for a case with similar price, as this build isn't for me, i will leave the looks of the case up to the person who is buying it.

i do admit the 970 is way better, but honestly, is that power necessary? the GTX 770 will do all that is asked of it.

[JoaoPRSousa]

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-970-vs-GeForce-GTX-770

 

yup 

 

GPU Boss isn't trustworthy.

Game performance reviews is what you want to compare GPUs

[Mohenjo]

the PSU will handle the system according to PCP

Have you used the Blackwidow, the switches are the best I've felt

case is a placeholder for a case with similar price, as this build isn't for me, i will leave the looks of the case up to the person who is buying it.

i do admit the 970 is way better, but honestly, is that power necessary? the GTX 770 will do all that is asked of it.

a psu lasts the longest and works the best when its at 50 - 80 percent efficiency and not being strained  

[Stardar1]

keep in mind, our budget totals at $1100

[Stardar1]

a psu lasts the longest and works the best when its at 50 - 80 percent efficiency and not being strained  

 

 

the efficiency is <85%

[JoaoPRSousa]

the PSU will handle the system according to PCP

Have you used the Blackwidow, the switches are the best I've felt

case is a placeholder for a case with similar price, as this build isn't for me, i will leave the looks of the case up to the person who is buying it.

i do admit the 970 is way better, but honestly, is that power necessary? the GTX 770 will do all that is asked of it.

 

1. It will, but the margin is very short.

2. Their keyboard switches aren't the best, neither is it's quality.

3. Ok.

4. Do you ever asked if your friend wants more/better monitors in the future?

[NumLock21]

Both builds have their good and bad, for gaming the Core i5 will be the better pick. For rendering on a budget then it will be AMD with it's 8 cores vs just 4 cores on the i5.

For gaming 8GB is sufficient, 16GB if you want to do some content creation and other similar task. At 16GB, get 2x8GB not 2 sets of 8GB kits.

GTX 970 is better than GTX 770.

The AMD build has a crap PSU.

[Mohenjo]

the efficiency is <85%

im in budget and 80 percent is already pushing it as it is plus its 10 dollars for 100w

[Stardar1]

1. It will, but the margin is very short.

2. Their keyboard switches aren't the best, neither is it's quality.

3. Ok.

4. Do you ever asked if your friend wants more/better monitors in the future?

1. the power supply can be updated, but budget is a factor

2. i always recommend this keyboard, i'm kind of in love with it. it can be considered a placeholder similar to the case.

4. the 770 can easily support 2 monitors, anything above that, more memory would be necessary, but the average person never goes above 2 screens. 

[JoaoPRSousa]

Just get him this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($188.69 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($82.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.49 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer  ($17.55 @ OutletPC) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($90.26 @ OutletPC) 

Monitor: BenQ GW2255 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($104.98 @ NCIX US) 

Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill N600PCE 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($19.98 @ OutletPC) 

Keyboard: A4Tech 3100N Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($29.88 @ Amazon) 

Total: $1050.77

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 13:38 EST-0500

 

And the PSU won't run short here, because Intel CPUs and the new Maxwell cards line up are very power efficient

 

At least nothing is a place holder...