"Why DSLR" convincing?

[79wjd]

What would the 55 zoom look like?

It looks like a 55mm lens  

 

But ummm....somewhere between 50-75 (on a crop sensor) would be good for a portrait lens -- i.e. bad for landscapes and bad for wildlife/sports photography. 

[Flight1sim]

It looks like a 55mm lens

But ummm....somewhere between 50-75 (on a crop sensor) would be good for a portrait lens -- i.e. bad for landscapes and bad for wildlife/sports photography.

I can't find a cheap 35mm lens

[79wjd]

I can't find a cheap 35mm lens

/don't feel like looking through the past 5 pages to see where this was discussed, but what are you intending to photograph?

[Flight1sim]

/don't feel like looking through the past 5 pages to see where this was discussed, but what are you intending to photograph?

I want to take some nice macro shots and of course long shots. Also video for maybe a future YouTube

I really want the 35mm for bokeh for segments of video and even photos

[ZacDaMan72]

What would the 55 zoom look like?

gimme a sec and i'll do it. @Flight1sim It's my neighbour's aerial thingy and I took the photos around like 20-25m away from it.

 

55mm:

 

70mm: 

[Flight1sim]

gimme a sec and i'll do it. @Flight1sim It's my neighbour's aerial thingy and I took the photos around like 20-25m away from it.

 

55mm:

 

 

 

70mm: 

Aw that might be pretty terrible for the kind of shots I want to do 

(macro/w bokeh)

(portraits w/ bokeh)

(videos close up with bokeh)

EDIT:  *shudder* I'll live with that zoom

2 new from $973.50 9 used from $305.00 1 refurbished from $439.79

Also, Wish me good luck, I'll talk with my dad later about the Camera

[Flight1sim]

Honestly, I would buy from BH Photo. refurbished long before I buy off ebay. 

 

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/827670-REF/Canon_5169B018AA_EOS_Rebel_T3i_Digital.html - $499 Camera + Kit Lens.

 

50MM lens - this will be zoom on a crop sensor. I would HIGHLY reccomend getting 35mm 1.8, or at least seeing if you can rent a few lenses before dropping money on them. 

 

55-250 etc - I personally bought the cheap nikon version of this... and meh. I hardly ever use it, and wish i wouldnt have spent the money, and bought a faster (f2.8) sigma instead. Its too dark in anything but broad daylight, and the quality isnt the best.

 

Filter - You don't need one. My brother and I have had our lenses for several years and never use filters. If you drop a lens....a scratched piece of glass is going to be the least of your concerns. 

 

 

I bought my 5200 Kit, + 55-200. I wish I had not bought the kit, and bought body only (Maybe even a D7200) + 35mm. And then a better zoom later (like a sigma - I am not rich enough for good nikkor glass....) Hindsight 20-20. I never use the zoom or kit lens, And by never, I mean, I have $250-300 in lens that I have taken 10 pictures with. Versus thousands with the 35mm. 

 

But this is just me. I am a social shooter - I love streets and people, carry my camera everywhere. I also have never used anything but full manual. So, it's all up to you and what you want to do. 

 

Have fun

For the Filters, I actually use the ND filter on my G12 a LOT, so I might pick up a $5 one.

As for the 55-250, im getting a 75-300 instead, I do Like taking pictures from my bedroom window to the city (I live on the mountains of the valley, so pictures are fantastic up here) so I might like it. The 55-250 has horrid IS, this one is a step up.

50mm, I have to deal with, the 35mm is VERY expensive.

I use zoom a lot because I can take a pic of the city, so I will get a zoom lens.

I won't be taking a lot of outside pics tho, as my area is kind of boring. 

 

For the B&H, I don't know about that, the Ebay Refurbished T3i is from canon and $50 cheaper, free shipping

[ZacDaMan72]

Aw that might be pretty terrible for the kind of shots I want to do 

(macro/w bokeh)

(portraits w/ bokeh)

(videos close up with bokeh)

EDIT:  *shudder* I'll live with that zoom

2 new from $973.50 9 used from $305.00 1 refurbished from $439.79

Also, Wish me good luck, I'll talk with my dad later about the Camera

It can do 'macro', but not legit macro:

 

for portraits you'll want to get the 50mm f1.8 but if you can, the 85mm f1.8: 

 

[d3sl91]

For the Filters, I actually use the ND filter on my G12 a LOT, so I might pick up a $5 one.

As for the 55-250, im getting a 75-300 instead, I do Like taking pictures from my bedroom window to the city (I live on the mountains of the valley, so pictures are fantastic up here) so I might like it. The 55-250 has horrid IS, this one is a step up.

50mm, I have to deal with, the 35mm is VERY expensive.

I use zoom a lot because I can take a pic of the city, so I will get a zoom lens.

I won't be taking a lot of outside pics tho, as my area is kind of boring. 

 

For the B&H, I don't know about that, the Ebay Refurbished T3i is from canon and $50 cheaper, free shipping

 

That is a bummer! Nikon has both a 35mm and 50mm 1.8 that are very cheap for their crop sensors, too bad cannon doesn't.  

 

If that ebay seller is Cannon, then go for it. I just like the peace of mind knowing when I get a refurb and there is an issue, that I have a reputable company to back up the warranty.

[79wjd]

For the Filters, I actually use the ND filter on my G12 a LOT, so I might pick up a $5 one.

As for the 55-250, im getting a 75-300 instead, I do Like taking pictures from my bedroom window to the city (I live on the mountains of the valley, so pictures are fantastic up here) so I might like it. The 55-250 has horrid IS, this one is a step up.

50mm, I have to deal with, the 35mm is VERY expensive.

I use zoom a lot because I can take a pic of the city, so I will get a zoom lens.

I won't be taking a lot of outside pics tho, as my area is kind of boring. 

 

For the B&H, I don't know about that, the Ebay Refurbished T3i is from canon and $50 cheaper, free shipping

I'm afraid I don't know much about Canon's lineup as I'm a Nikon shooter myself, but check out Sigma and Tamron, both make pretty decent lenses (some of which are actually better than their Nikon/Canon counterparts -- just be sure to look up a review on a lens -- Kenrockwell.com has some very good camera/lens reviews as does dpreview.com). 

[Williamchan87]

Sigma 24-60mm f/2.8 EX DG

[Flight1sim]

Sigma 24-60mm f/2.8 EX DG

Btw, I just found a CANON EOS ELAN II with a 24-80mm AF Lens  

It uses the EF-S mount right?

[.spider.]

It uses the EF-S mount right?

No

[Flight1sim]

No

Ef?

[.spider.]

Ef?

Yes

[Flight1sim]

Yes

So it's full frame?

[KirbyTech]

So it's full frame?

Yes

[Flight1sim]

Yes

oh yeah, it has that little red dot

So it will be like ~35-100mm instead of 28-80mm?

[KirbyTech]

It will be exactly what is says it is. So 24-80.

[Flight1sim]

It will be exactly what is says it is. So 24-80.

I mean on a crop sensor it would be zoomed in more right?

[79wjd]

oh yeah, it has that little red dot

So it will be like ~35-100mm instead of 28-80mm?

I mean on a crop sensor it would be zoomed in more right?

All lenses are measured in the same focal length. A crop sensor 35mm less has the EXACT same focal length as an FX lens at 35mm; the difference is that one can be used on an FX sensor without being cropped -- if you use a crop sensor lens on an fx sensor then you end using the fx sensor as if it were a crop sensor.

 

/A 35mm FX lens on an FX camera is 35mm, but is 56mm on a crop sensor. whereas a 35mm crop sensor lens is 56mm on both an FX and crop sensor since the fx sensor will be cropped down. 

[Flight1sim]

All lenses are measured in the same focal length. A crop sensor 35mm les has the EXACT same focal length as an FX lens at 35mm; the difference is that one can be used on an FX sensor without being cropped -- if you use a crop sensor lens on an fx sensor then youend you using the fx sensor as if it were a crop sensor.

but it still means that when you use a full-frame Lens (FX?) on a crop sensor it will be "cropped" or look more zoomed in compared to the Full Frame Sensor at the same focal distance right?

[.spider.]

Multiply by 1.6

Somehow you are variating the focal length a bit and you never write the full name of the lens thus nobody knows which lens do you exactly mean.

[79wjd]

but it still means that when you use a full-frame Lens (FX?) on a crop sensor it will be "cropped" or look more zoomed in compared to the Full Frame Sensor at the same focal distance right?

/A 35mm FX lens on an FX camera is 35mm, but is 56mm on a crop sensor. whereas a 35mm crop sensor lens is 56mm on both an FX and crop sensor since the fx sensor will be cropped down. 

[Flight1sim]

Multiply by 1.6

Somehow you are variating the focal length a bit and you never write the full name of the lens thus nobody knows which lens do you exactly mean.

it's the  Canon EF 28-80mm 1:3.5-5.6 USM lens (focus is actually really quiet for a lens made in 1995 )

im guessing no IS though, no switch for it and also I believe IS was created later

 

yeh, it's an Ultrasonic lens so it's not that great (really cheap quality)