Final decision...?

[TokenSu]

Hello fellow forumeers=D

 

So, after much research and time spent on forums, google and various outher sites, i have decided on the build i would like to build and came to you guys for...erm...i guess your approval? Your blessings?...hehe=D

 

If you could kindly point out if there'll be any problems with the parts i've selected, i would be very much grateful. I'm using the computer mainly for video editing using premiere and after effects...but lets be honest...we all play some games from time to time;p

 

Case - NZXT Phantom 410

CPU - Intel i7 3930k

Motherboard - Asus Sabertooth x79

GPU - GTX-660 Ti

PSU - XFX Pro Series 750W

RAM - 16GB - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2x4GB)1600 CL9 x 2

SSD - Crucial M4 128GB (Boot) and Crucial M4 256GB(Video Cache)

HDD - 2TB Seagate 7200rpm

BluRay Drive - LG combo drive

Cooler - Corsair H100i

 

Moniter - Dell Ultra Sharp U2312HM

 

Have i missed anything out essential? (not like keyboard and mouse=D)

 

A couple of questions i have is:

1- whether the case will fit all this. Will i need to get the NZXT Phantom

2- is it worth getting the GTX-670? Does the 256bit memory interface compared to the 192bit on the 660ti really make enough of a difference?

3- What brand of GPU? I'm thinking Inno3D. MSI Twin Frozr?

4- If i wanted to dual screen down the line, would the GPU support this as is in this build?

My Budget is around what it is at so no need for me to state the costs of each item but if say the extra memery interface on the gpu is worth the money, i'll happily shell out for it. As for other parts, within reason so feel free to let me know what you think.

 

Any comments or constructive critisicms are most welcome.

 

Thanks in Advance everyone=D Be gentle...

 

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[david cassar]

Why not save some money on the cpu and get an i7 4770k, then you could afford a gtx 780 which would smoke the gtx 660 ti or any card for that matter.

[xToFxREAPER]

that looks really good actually, msi twin frozr is a good choice for brand of gpu :) as for the dual monitor it will work just fine though you cant game of both monitors at the same time but you probably already know that. as for difference in memory bandwith im not sure as i dont do much editing so someone else will have to shed some light on that topic. otherwise it looks good :) i would chouse corsair vengeance memory instead of kingston but thats a matter of preference more then anything

[Hyydrah]

It sounds suitable for your purposes, but you should do without the Blu-ray drive if you can, and have one SSD for your OS and no others.

 

1- whether the case will fit all this. Will i need to get the NZXT Phantom

Yes, it will be fine.

 

2- is it worth getting the GTX-670? Does the 256bit memory interface compared to the 192bit on the 660ti really make enough of a difference?

You should consider the 7950, it'll probably be a better value and it overclocks very well. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202007

 

3- What brand of GPU? I'm thinking Inno3D. MSI Twin Frozr?

The link above has a very highly regarded GPU.

 

4- If i wanted to dual screen down the line, would the GPU support this as is in this build?

In what way? In terms of frame rate,  it won't be very good in-game but you will be able to run many other programs with it.

 

You may also want to consider this PSU, 650W is more than adequate for running your system. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

[WoodenMarker]

It sounds suitable for your purposes, but you should do without the Blu-ray drive if you can, and have one SSD for your OS and no others.

 

1- whether the case will fit all this. Will i need to get the NZXT Phantom

Yes, it will be fine.

 

2- is it worth getting the GTX-670? Does the 256bit memory interface compared to the 192bit on the 660ti really make enough of a difference?

You should consider the 7950, it'll probably be a better value and it overclocks very well. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202007

 

3- What brand of GPU? I'm thinking Inno3D. MSI Twin Frozr?

The link above has a very highly regarded GPU.

 

4- If i wanted to dual screen down the line, would the GPU support this as is in this build?

In what way? In terms of frame rate,  it won't be very good in-game but you will be able to run many other programs with it.

 

You may also want to consider this PSU, 650W is more than adequate for running your system. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

It's better to go nvidia and not amd for the gpu since he'll be editing. Cuda will come into play when rendering.

650w gold is overkill. A 600w bronze will be more than enough.

[Hyydrah]

It's better to go nvidia and not amd for the gpu since he'll be editing. Cuda will come into play when rendering.

650w gold is overkill. A 600w bronze will be more than enough.

Not sure about CUDA having much of a benefit for what he'll be using the system for. Sure, 600W Bronze is "enough", but the PSU I recommended is an excellent value while having upgradability that the 600W bronze won't have.

[WoodenMarker]

Not sure about CUDA having much of a benefit for what he'll be using the system for. Sure, 600W Bronze is "enough", but the PSU I recommended is an excellent value while having upgradability that the 600W bronze won't have.

Adobe Premiere and After Effects both take advantage of cuda for editing/rendering.

What ability to upgrade would a 650w gold have that a 600w bronze wouldn't have for this system? 

[Hyydrah]

Adobe Premiere and After Effects both take advantage of cuda for editing/rendering.

What ability to upgrade would a 650w gold have that a 600w bronze wouldn't have for this system? 

I said upgradability, meaning future components that will likely have higher power requirements.

[TokenSu]

Hi Guys,

 

Thanks for your inputs. I'll stick with the 3930k over the 4cores  8thread 4770k as for video editing the 6cores/12threads is more important than getting a gtx780.

 

I'm going to stick with the nvidia cards for the CUDA cores. But if anyone has an argument against this, i'm all ears=D

If anyone can shed some light specifically on the improvements the 256bit memory interface will have over the 192bit on the 660ti and if the extra money will be worth it, if any.

 

So, 600-650watts should be enough for my build, eh? I'll look into that. Thanks!

[VVR4ITH]

Are you making a serious living off editing ($650+/week)?  If not, you might want to consider something less overkill.

[TokenSu]

well, if you must know, yes...7000US$+ last month...if you don't have something constructive...abscond yourself please;p Back to the point...=D

[VVR4ITH]

well, if you must know, yes...7000US$+ last month...if you don't have something constructive...abscond yourself please;p Back to the point...=D

 

Excuse me for trying to save you some money on a less overkill system, Asshole.

[TokenSu]

@VVR4ITH - You asked a question. I replied. What's wrong with that? On the other hand you came in and felt a need to make a presumption and add nothing to the conversation in regards to answering the question i asked. Instead you try "offer your help" in saving me some money when i didn't ask for that in my post? Thanks...but no thanks. I polietly asked you to abscond yourself. And i'm the asshole? Stop trolling and get a life...That's being an asshole.

 

Once again, back to the point=D

 

I've looked into the power supply and after using a calculator i think a lower watt unit will do. Possibly the Cooler Master Silent Pro 620W. Any recommendations will be welcome here. Thanks=D

[VVR4ITH]

@VVR4ITH - You asked a question. I replied. What's wrong with that? On the other hand you came in and felt a need to make a presumption and add nothing to the conversation in regards to answering the question i asked. Instead you try "offer your help" in saving me some money when i didn't ask for that in my post? Thanks...but no thanks. I polietly asked you to abscond yourself. And i'm the asshole? Stop trolling and get a life...That's being an asshole.

 

Once again, back to the point=D

 

I've looked into the power supply and after using a calculator i think a lower watt unit will do. Possibly the Cooler Master Silent Pro 620W. Any recommendations will be welcome here. Thanks=D

 

Cooler Master PSUs suck.

 

And after taking another look, your entire build is unbalanced, overpriced, and I'm surprised none of the regulars here caught that.

[VVR4ITH]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/148DD

 

Balanced build, and gets the job done.

 

I picked that monitor because I've seen the one you picked and that one side-by-side, and I couldn't tell the difference in picture quality.  Get whichever is cheaper at the time.

[WoodenMarker]

I said upgradability, meaning future components that will likely have higher power requirements.

Future components will probably have lower power requirements, not higher.

Of course a 650 gold will have more upgradability than a 600w bronze but what specifically would he be able to upgrade that the 650w could handle but the 600w wouldn't? 

The 600w costs less, no doubt. It should also have more than enough power for these "upgrades".

[WoodenMarker]

@VVR4ITH - You asked a question. I replied. What's wrong with that? On the other hand you came in and felt a need to make a presumption and add nothing to the conversation in regards to answering the question i asked. Instead you try "offer your help" in saving me some money when i didn't ask for that in my post? Thanks...but no thanks. I polietly asked you to abscond yourself. And i'm the asshole? Stop trolling and get a life...That's being an asshole.

 

Once again, back to the point=D

 

I've looked into the power supply and after using a calculator i think a lower watt unit will do. Possibly the Cooler Master Silent Pro 620W. Any recommendations will be welcome here. Thanks=D

I would avoid cooler master for psus. They make great cases though.

 

Here are a few options: 

Corsair: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600

Antec: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-ea650green

XFX (Seasonic) http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb9

 

Antex/XFX are preferable (due to their brand and MAYBE their extra headroom) but you could do with the corsair psu. 

[Hyydrah]

Future components will probably have lower power requirements, not higher.

Of course a 650 gold will have more upgradability than a 600w bronze but what specifically would he be able to upgrade that the 650w could handle but the 600w wouldn't? 

The 600w costs less, no doubt. It should also have more than enough power for these "upgrades".

The 600 series of cards consume less power than the 700 series, it doesn't look like power consumption is going down. And the GPU is one of the, if not the most power-hungry component in most of our systems, including the OP's.

 

The reason why a 600W Bronze PSU probably isn't enough is that it wouldn't be as ideal as a 650W Gold PSU for an SLI configuration. The PSU is a very long-lasting component anyway, so why not spend a few bucks more for one that will save you more on your energy bill?

[Hyydrah]

I would avoid cooler master for psus. They make great cases though.

 

Here are a few options: 

Corsair: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600

Antec: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-ea650green

XFX (Seasonic) http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb9

 

Antex/XFX are preferable (due to their brand and MAYBE their extra headroom) but you could do with the corsair psu. 

Coolermaster just rebrands PSUs, You do realize that one of their OEMs is Channel Well, who manufactures many of Corsair's and Antec's PSUs, right? It's no use judging a product by its brand, you have to review the product itself.

[VVR4ITH]

Coolermaster just rebrands PSUs, You do realize that one of their OEMs is Channel Well, who manufactures many of Corsair's and Antec's PSUs, right? It's no use judging a product by its brand, you have to review the product itself.

 

Cooler Master's "better" PSUs are the lower, lower tiers of Corsair and Antec.  I would never recommend them to anyone.

[Hyydrah]

Cooler Master's "better" PSUs are the lower, lower tiers of Corsair and Antec.  I would never recommend them to anyone.

Nearly 100 people would.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171057

 

And that's just from one site, only including the people that actually rated the product.

[WoodenMarker]

The 600 series of cards consume less power than the 700 series, it doesn't look like power consumption is going down. And the GPU is one of the, if not the most power-hungry component in most of our systems, including the OP's.

 

The reason why a 600W Bronze PSU probably isn't enough is that it wouldn't be as ideal as a 650W Gold PSU for an SLI configuration. The PSU is a very long-lasting component anyway, so why not spend a few bucks more for one that will save you more on your energy bill?

The 650w would not support sli for the OP's system. The money you "save" from getting the gold psu is nowhere near the money you spend for it compared to the bronze.

 

Edit: Also, a 750w bronze would support sli AND cost less. Gold plus is generally not worth it unless it's the same price as bronze.

[Hyydrah]

The 650w would not support sli for the OP's system. The money you "save" from getting the gold psu is nowhere near the money you spend for it compared to the bronze.

 

Edit: Also, a 750w bronze would support sli AND cost less. Gold plus is generally not worth it unless it's the same price as bronze.

A 650W Gold PSU would support the OP's system... Why would you want more wattage than you'd need over a more efficient PSU?

[WoodenMarker]

A 650W Gold PSU would support the OP's system... Why would you want more wattage than you'd need over a more efficient PSU?

It costs less even considering the "energy saved". I was just bringing up a more extreme example to show that a gold psu is not worth the extra money.

[Hyydrah]

It costs less even considering the "energy saved". I was just bringing up a more extreme example to show that a gold psu is not worth the extra money.

Can you even prove that it costs less? We're talking about a pretty power hungry machine with two GPUs, likely with higher power consumption than most of the people's computers on this forum. You might want to take a look at this article, which shows how much you can save from an increase in efficiency. http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2011/03/31/is-an-energy-efficient-power-supply-80-plus-worth-it-for-my-computer/