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If you were a gamer and had to choose between  

 

1. A Hyper 212 cooling an 8350, 500w Non-Modular PSU, 840 Evo 250GB SSD, and 1ms 144hz monitor.

 

and

 

 

2. An H100i cooling an 8350, 600w Semi-Modular PSU, 840 Pro 256GB SSD, and 1ms 60hz monitor....

 

 

Which would you choose?

 

 

EDIT:

 

IGNORE THE RAZER PERIPHERALS!! DX

 

 

Option 1: Click Here

 

Option 2: Click Here (I just found out the 840 pro is a pointless upgrade from the 840 evo for me)

 

I'll take suggestiosn on improvements. Budget = $1600-1650 (No higher)

 

**THE BUDGET CANNOT BE INCREASED...so don't suggest it please :)**

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Depends on the GPU. Can it drive games at 144 fps?

PC: 4770K @ 4.0 GHz --- Maximus VI Hero --- 8 GB 2133 MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro --- EVGA 780 TI Classified @ 1300 MHz --- Samsung Evo 250 GB --- Corsair RM 750 --- Corsair Carbide Air 540 --- CM Storm Rapid-I (MX Blues with PMK Evergreen Keycaps) --- Windows XP --- Razer Naga --- Custom Loop Parts: 380I, EKWB 780 Classy Waterblock and Backplate, 240mm and 360mm XT45, Swiftech MCP655, EKWB multi option reservoir, Mayhems Pastel Red, Primochill Primoflex Advanced Clear Tubing, 5 SP 120 Quiet Editions --- Mobile: Surface Pro 3 (i5 128gb) with JD40 (MX Clears) and Microsoft Sculpt Mouse --- Galaxy S6

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i would go 8320 with a 212 evo, cx600m, cheaper 256gb ssd and a 144hz monitor

My Rig  

 
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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($379.00 @ shopRBC) 

CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK THEMIS 65.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ NCIX) 

Motherboard: MSI CSM-H87M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($78.83 @ DirectCanada) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($139.99 @ Memory Express) 

Storage: Kingston Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($71.34 @ DirectCanada) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($92.95 @ Vuugo) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  ($298.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($125.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($66.99 @ NCIX) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($116.00 @ shopRBC) 

Case Fan: Cougar Turbine 120 (4-Pack) 60.4 CFM 120mm  Fans  ($23.99 @ NCIX) 

Monitor: HP 22xi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($187.11 @ Amazon Canada) 

Monitor: HP 22xi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($187.11 @ Amazon Canada) 

Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($114.99 @ NCIX) 

Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse  ($76.99 @ Amazon Canada) 

Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud Pro Headset  ($78.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $2074.22

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Depends on the GPU. Can it drive games at 144 fps?

The thing is even if the OP doesn't have the hardware to drive games over 60 fps and to 144 fps maybe in the future he will.  The monitor might be good for the OP well into the future.  

 

Too many ****ing games!  Back log 4 life! :S

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The thing is even if the OP doesn't have the hardware to drive games over 60 fps and to 144 fps maybe in the future he will.  The monitor might be good for the OP well into the future.  

 

With a 500w PSU? Nothing that can drive constant 144fps will be powered by a 500w PSU. 

PC: 4770K @ 4.0 GHz --- Maximus VI Hero --- 8 GB 2133 MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro --- EVGA 780 TI Classified @ 1300 MHz --- Samsung Evo 250 GB --- Corsair RM 750 --- Corsair Carbide Air 540 --- CM Storm Rapid-I (MX Blues with PMK Evergreen Keycaps) --- Windows XP --- Razer Naga --- Custom Loop Parts: 380I, EKWB 780 Classy Waterblock and Backplate, 240mm and 360mm XT45, Swiftech MCP655, EKWB multi option reservoir, Mayhems Pastel Red, Primochill Primoflex Advanced Clear Tubing, 5 SP 120 Quiet Editions --- Mobile: Surface Pro 3 (i5 128gb) with JD40 (MX Clears) and Microsoft Sculpt Mouse --- Galaxy S6

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The second option...

Semi Modular PSU and an H100i... Way better

A semi-modular psu and an H100i are not needed.  A regular psu may not give the OP as clean a look inside the pc case but in many instances who cares as long as the psu does it's job.  As for the H100i the OP doesn't need that either as the Hyper 212 is a great aftermarket HSF.  OP doesn't need the H100i.

Too many ****ing games!  Back log 4 life! :S

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I'll put together a PC parts picker in a min

Before you do, Do know that an 850 pro is silly unless you desperatley need the added reliability (which I doubt you do) -- I'd get an 840 or an Crucial MX100 (whichever is cheaper)

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With a 500w PSU? Nothing that can drive constant 144fps will be powered by a 500w PSU. 

almost anything can be 144hz if you turn down settings, and a 980 will do work on a 500w psu

My Rig  

 
PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/kGNksY

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($379.00 @ shopRBC) 

CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK THEMIS 65.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ NCIX) 

Motherboard: MSI CSM-H87M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($78.83 @ DirectCanada) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($139.99 @ Memory Express) 

Storage: Kingston Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($71.34 @ DirectCanada) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($92.95 @ Vuugo) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  ($298.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($125.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($66.99 @ NCIX) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($116.00 @ shopRBC) 

Case Fan: Cougar Turbine 120 (4-Pack) 60.4 CFM 120mm  Fans  ($23.99 @ NCIX) 

Monitor: HP 22xi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($187.11 @ Amazon Canada) 

Monitor: HP 22xi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($187.11 @ Amazon Canada) 

Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($114.99 @ NCIX) 

Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse  ($76.99 @ Amazon Canada) 

Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud Pro Headset  ($78.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $2074.22

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-10 15:33 EDT-0400Build log http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/303263-the-dell-from-hell/#entry4121100 

Phone Compassion Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EN6s426gyxqPloIqT4wQ7Y7yovkkQy_5B3djVN-N-R8/edit#gid=0


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With a 500w PSU? Nothing that can drive constant 144fps will be powered by a 500w PSU. 

Actually you would be wrong in saying that as older titles could hit well over the 60 FPS mark with the right card.  Also if you looked at what I posted I said the monitor might be beneficial to the OP in the future so even if he didn't have a video card or cards that could drive well over 60 FPS for the games the OP wants right now maybe in the future the OP will have that. 

Too many ****ing games!  Back log 4 life! :S

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Second option. inb4 you can only see XXfps...


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if i didnt have a budget #2 i don't play fps games so 60hz is fine for me 

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Actually you would be wrong in saying that as older titles could hit well over the 60 FPS mark with the right card.  Also if you looked at what I posted I said the monitor might be beneficial to the OP in the future so even if he didn't have a video card or cards that could drive well over 60 FPS for the games the OP wants right now maybe in the future the OP will have that. 

You're basing your argument off "ifs". How do we know what games OP plays? My point was that he would have to upgrade the PSU and video card while having mediocre cooling on a mediocre CPU. To be honest I think none of these options are good ones. 

PC: 4770K @ 4.0 GHz --- Maximus VI Hero --- 8 GB 2133 MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro --- EVGA 780 TI Classified @ 1300 MHz --- Samsung Evo 250 GB --- Corsair RM 750 --- Corsair Carbide Air 540 --- CM Storm Rapid-I (MX Blues with PMK Evergreen Keycaps) --- Windows XP --- Razer Naga --- Custom Loop Parts: 380I, EKWB 780 Classy Waterblock and Backplate, 240mm and 360mm XT45, Swiftech MCP655, EKWB multi option reservoir, Mayhems Pastel Red, Primochill Primoflex Advanced Clear Tubing, 5 SP 120 Quiet Editions --- Mobile: Surface Pro 3 (i5 128gb) with JD40 (MX Clears) and Microsoft Sculpt Mouse --- Galaxy S6

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Before you do, Do know that an 850 pro is silly unless you desperatley need the added reliability (which I doubt you do) -- I'd get an 840 or an Crucial MX100 (whichever is cheaper)

 

I didn't know that the performance is that minor, I guess I'll stick to the 840 EVO

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With a 500w PSU? Nothing that can drive constant 144fps will be powered by a 500w PSU. 

GTX 980 can do quite a few games at over 100fps and can be powered on a 400w PSU. I have an RM 550 and I had a 290x which was fine lol.

 

I'd go for option 1 but those setups can be optimized price wise.

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You're basing your argument off "ifs". How do we know what games OP plays? My point was that he would have to upgrade the PSU and video card while having mediocre cooling on a mediocre CPU. To be honest I think none of these options are good ones. 

Mediocre cooling on his cpu?  Please stop now before you embarrass yourself.

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Option 1, because I know the GTX 970 would display games smoothly on a 144Hz monitor. I have that same monitor with my 780 and I love it. Personally I can see the difference between 60Hz and 144Hz but if you are fine with 60Hz then it might not make a difference to you. It is just a matter of personal preference but I'd recommend the 144Hz monitor because I'm used to it and find that my games run more smoothly with it.

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Mediocre cooling on his cpu?  Please stop now before you embarrass yourself.

I'm sorry but a 212 evo is mediocre... I don't see why you even posted a response to my post. I was just saying that if he is able to run his system off a 500w PSU comfortably then he won't be able to play modern games at ultra or high settings at a constant 144fps. A 980 is not enough to run BF4 maxed 1080p at constant 144fps is it? No it is not. 

 

I personally did not like either options. 

PC: 4770K @ 4.0 GHz --- Maximus VI Hero --- 8 GB 2133 MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro --- EVGA 780 TI Classified @ 1300 MHz --- Samsung Evo 250 GB --- Corsair RM 750 --- Corsair Carbide Air 540 --- CM Storm Rapid-I (MX Blues with PMK Evergreen Keycaps) --- Windows XP --- Razer Naga --- Custom Loop Parts: 380I, EKWB 780 Classy Waterblock and Backplate, 240mm and 360mm XT45, Swiftech MCP655, EKWB multi option reservoir, Mayhems Pastel Red, Primochill Primoflex Advanced Clear Tubing, 5 SP 120 Quiet Editions --- Mobile: Surface Pro 3 (i5 128gb) with JD40 (MX Clears) and Microsoft Sculpt Mouse --- Galaxy S6

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Option 1, because I know the GTX 970 would display games smoothly on a 144Hz monitor. I have that same monitor with my 780 and I love it. Personally I can see the difference between 60Hz and 144Hz but if you are fine with 60Hz then it might not make a difference to you. It is just a matter of personal preference but I'd recommend the 144Hz monitor because I'm used to it and find that my games run more smoothly with it.

 

Thanks man, by the way if anyone has suggestions on improvements i'll accept them. I'll put a budget cap in the OP.

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