4770k vs 8350

[gts250ftw]

hey guys do you think an 8350 stands a chance against the 4770k? 

ik its double the price but im asking

 

lets say in the future games are totally optimized for 8 core performance which would win? since a 4770k is only hyperthreading...? 

also at like rendering videos and such which would win?

[deafboy]

You honestly won't notice much of a difference, the 4770k will be better in the same sense the 3770k is better.

 

It'd personally grab a 3770k over a 4770k.  The benefits of haswell are kind of moot for most desktop users.

 

Edit:

 

Unless you're near a microcenter, then a 4770k price isn't too bad.

[JordanMac]

4770k would easily beat it, but its twice the price so its unfair really to compare hem

[FireFox]

4770k would easily beat it, but its twice the price so its unfair really to compare hem

 

And Intel's are priced that much for a reason and not because they are ripping us all off, also there is a reason why most video editors, CAD users and so on use Intel's.

[Blade of Grass]

As Jordan stated, it would fine, but they're in different price brackets.

It would be better to compare the i5 4670 or the 4650.

[mememo]

If its mostly for gaming get the 8350 and spend the extra on a better GPU =)

[gts250ftw]

quick question how the hell is microcenter sooo cheap with processors and sorta expensive with mobo's ? damnn...lolz

[gts250ftw]

and well i was comparing the best both brands had to offer....thats why :/ hehe

[NVgamer]

And Intel's are priced that much for a reason and not because they are ripping us all off, also there is a reason why most video editors, CAD users and so on use Intel's.

yes and unfortunately due to the lack of competition in the processor dept from other companies intel is in a position to greatly monetize. My hope is that amd Centurion can help force those prices back to where it should be. 

 

 

[deafboy]

quick question how the hell is microcenter sooo cheap with processors and sorta expensive with mobo's ? damnn...lolz

 

They will often sell the CPUs at a somewhat loss knowing that once you're in the store you'll likely buy other things while you're there.  That's why the deals are in-store only and not available online.

[Nicktrance]

The 4770K would win everything (except price), better performance per core, lower power consumption, more choice of motherboards etc. but the difference would probably still be unnoticeable in games unless they are extremely CPU intensive (which they usually aren't). If you were to consider price/performance however, 8350 wins by a mile.

[Eve]

isn't this topic in the wrong place? 

 

The 4770K would win everything (except price), better performance per core, lower power consumption, more choice of motherboards etc. but the difference would probably still be unnoticeable in games unless they are extremely CPU intensive (which they usually aren't). If you were to consider price/performance however, 8350 wins by a mile.

Agreed :3

[ofr057]

I thought it was good point of haswell that is has more support for sata 3 natively on the chip

[FireFox]

 

yes and unfortunately due to the lack of competition in the processor dept from other companies intel is in a position to greatly monetize. My hope is that amd Centurion can help force those prices back to where it should be. 

 

 

 

 

Yea agreed and though I like Haswell I'm hoping the release will knock Sandy Bridge down, still an amazing chip and I want a Core i7-2600K

[Humbug]

It'd personally grab a 3770k over a 4770k.  The benefits of haswell are kind of moot for most desktop users.

If you have an older CPU and are upgrading then yes 3770k. But for a new build definitely 4770k because the new platform has a future upgrade path.

[KaareKanin]

You honestly won't notice much of a difference, the 4770k will be better in the same sense the 3770k is better.

 

It'd personally grab a 3770k over a 4770k.  The benefits of haswell are kind of moot for most desktop users.

 

Edit:

 

Unless you're near a microcenter, then a 4770k price isn't too bad.

 

Haswell performs better, but that's not the whole story. The Z87 chipset has extra features over the older Z77 which to many could be worth more than the performance bump

[deafboy]

If you have an older CPU and are upgrading then yes 3770k. But for a new build definitely 4770k because the new platform has a future upgrade path.

 

Mainstream Intel boards are generally speaking mediocre for upgrade paths.  While Socket 1150 will have Broadwell in the future, broadwell is going to be base on the Z97/H97 chipset and allowing for the upcoming SATA Express (10-16GB/s), so your Z87 board might support broadwell but you might potentially be missing out on broadwell's feature set, meaning the upgrade path is kind of meh.

 

Haswell performs better, but that's not the whole story. The Z87 chipset has extra features over the older Z77 which to many could be worth more than the performance bump

 

Most of which the average user isn't going to be able to tell the difference between.  IMO, the only perk is having more native sata III and USB 3.0 ports, of which, isn't terribly important for most people I would say.

[wpirobotbuilder]

Mainstream Intel boards are generally speaking mediocre for upgrade paths.  While Socket 1150 will have Broadwell in the future, broadwell is going to be base on the Z97/H97 chipset and allowing for the upcoming SATA Express (10-16GB/s), so your Z87 board might support broadwell but you might potentially be missing out on broadwell's feature set, meaning the upgrade path is kind of meh.

 

 

Most of which the average user isn't going to be able to tell the difference between.  IMO, the only perk is having more native sata III and USB 3.0 ports, of which, isn't terribly important for most people I would say.

It opens up more possibilities for caching hard drives with smaller SSD's, (I believe) you could have 3 HDDs each with their own SSD cache instead of just one. Also the potential to RAID more than 2 SSDs, opening up higher-performance RAID 0 as well as adding RAID 5 as an option depending on the mobo controller.

[EChondo]

I would say get a Haswell CPU. You have higher memory capacity and more than 2 SATAIII ports. It's probably not worth upgrading from Sandy/Ivy or Piledriver, but if you're on Bulldozer or first gen Intel CPUs(or older) then it would be a decent upgrade.

[Guest]

hey guys do you think an 8350 stands a chance against the 4770k? 

ik its double the price but im asking

 

lets say in the future games are totally optimized for 8 core performance which would win? since a 4770k is only hyperthreading...? 

also at like rendering videos and such which would win?

Moved to CPU's.. 

[deafboy]

It opens up more possibilities for caching hard drives with smaller SSD's, (I believe) you could have 3 HDDs each with their own SSD cache instead of just one. Also the potential to RAID more than 2 SSDs, opening up higher-performance RAID 0 as well as adding RAID 5 as an option depending on the mobo controller.

 

Yes, which is why I stated average user, those features are ones that most users won't utilize.

[heineygoat]

Seems like everyone is pretty sure that the 4770k would beat it. Well it does with current games that use 2-4 cores, but what about when you start having games optimized for 8 cores with the next gen consoles?

 

Crysis 3 is optimized for 8 cores and Logan from tek syndicate concluded that the only CPU that significantly beat the 8350 was one of Intels 2011, 6 core processors.

 

Personally, I am going to wait until PS4 and Xbone games are ported to the PC to decide whether I will be going with an AMD 8 core or an Intel 4 core.

 

 

[naca1227]

quick question how the hell is microcenter sooo cheap with processors and sorta expensive with mobo's ? damnn...lolz

Well a lot of the time with Microcenter the CPU will have a bundle with the Mobo making the mobo less. In other words Microcenter is heaven as someone else stated