Help Me Find RAM Please

[MrRX7]

Help Me Find RAM Please, im buying the Gigabyte Z87-HD3 motherboard and the i7 4770 non K from my local shop I will only be shopping at MSY. The following page is my only choices in ram im looking for DDR3 1600mhz ram and 16GB in total of it so 4 x 4 GB Sticks. It needs to be non ecc and dual channel.
 

Here is the link to what I have to chose from: http://www.msy.com.au/saonline/243-desktop-ram?n=48&id_category=243

 

and here is the memory that the motherboard has on its supported list: http://download.gigabyte.asia/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-z87-hd3.pdf

[Phllips]

Dont get a z87 if your not OC'ing get a h87 also the hyperx fury sticks are cool.

[AlwaysFSX]

Just buy the amount of DDR3 ram that you need and toss it in. It'll work.

[TheMcSame]

Just buy a cheap kit if you don't care about looks. At the end of the day RAM is RAM, a cheap kit will work just like an expensive kit.

[MrRX7]

is this ram dual channel? http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/hyperx_us/partsinfo.asp?root=&ktcpartno=HX316C10F/4

[MrRX7]

and can I run four of them for 16GB on my motherboard and will that make it quad channel?

and then could I run two of them for 8GB? with same speed as having 4?

 

@AlwaysFSX
@TheMcSame
@Phllips

[asimrc]

two ram modules with 8gb is a better option thats what i have running.

[Rubenis]

and can I run four of them for 16GB on my motherboard and will that make it quad channel?

and then could I run two of them for 8GB? with same speed as having 4?

Quad channel RAM is on Socket 2011, so not for you. On your pc it will work max ir dual channel. Get any DDR3 1600Mhz RAM with lowest CL number you can afford. Optimum is CL8 or CL9.

2x8Gb is better for future proof pc.

[runit3]

and can I run four of them for 16GB on my motherboard and will that make it quad channel?

and then could I run two of them for 8GB? with same speed as having 4?

 

@AlwaysFSX

@TheMcSame

@Phllips

4 sticks will not make it quad channel, you will have 2 dual channel kits operating in dual channel mode. Only LGA2011/2011-3 supports truly quad channel memory.

The speed of the kit will not vary no matter how large the kit is. You can have 4/8/16/32gb kits all running 2133 or whatever speed you choose as long as the kit supports it, just make sure you choose the same model of memory kit if you are combining 2 or more kits. You can mix and match different kits but all will have to be set to the same exact timings/speed within the BIOS to get them operating together properly. Save yourself the headache and buy all you will need at once with matching kits.

[MrRX7]

two ram modules with 8gb is a better option thats what i have running.

 

why is 2 x 4gb better than 4 x 4gb sticks?

 

or do you mean just have two 8gb sticks?

[runit3]

why is 2 x 4gb better than 4 x 4gb sticks?

 

or do you mean just have two 8gb sticks?

He probably meant 2 8gb sticks.

The reason for running 2 x 8gb over 4 x 4gb is that you are not receiving any kind aggregate linear bandwidth increase (details here: http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr3-memory-performance-analysis-on-intel-x79_1779/5) as they are not running in triple/quad channel, it's simply 2 dual channel kits increasing your overall physical RAM size. The second main reason for only running 2 sticks as opposed to 4 is that if one of the sticks fails there is a lot less troubleshooting involved in finding out which stick failed/why it failed (bad MOBO socket for example). In that particular situation you could just swap the sticks to a different DIMM slot and not have to deal with replacing the MOBO or moving to the aforementioned 2 x 8gb kit.

If you want 16gb of total memory just get a 2 x 8gb kit, the price difference is marginal or non-existent, it makes life easier.

[asimrc]

why is 2 x 4gb better than 4 x 4gb sticks?

 

or do you mean just have two 8gb sticks?

 

Purely future proofing, as there is hardly a performance variance between 4x4gb to 2x8gb.

 

Yes i ment 2 8gb sticks

[MrRX7]

Purely future proofing, as there is hardly a performance variance between 4x4gb to 2x8gb.

 

Yes i ment 2 8gb sticks

ok then is this ram non ECC and dual channel? http://www.msy.com.au/saonline/home/13319--kingston-hyperx-fury-blue-hx316c10f-8-8g-single-ddr3-1600mhz-desktop-ram.html

also what would the difference be apart from price if i got this in a kit which was 2 x 8GB sticks or if I bought 2 of the 1 x 8GB sticks?

@runit3

[JonU]

Also running 2x8GB now allows you to more easily expand to 32GB in the future if you ever wanted to. 

 

ok then is this ram non ECC and dual channel? http://www.msy.com.au/saonline/home/13319--kingston-hyperx-fury-blue-hx316c10f-8-8g-single-ddr3-1600mhz-desktop-ram.html

also what would the difference be apart from price if i got this in a kit which was 2 x 8GB sticks or if I bought 2 of the 1 x 8GB sticks?

@runit3

Yes that would work with your motherboard.

 

Theoretically, if the sticks are made by the same manufacturer and have the same specs, the only difference is price. You should save some money (however small) by getting the 2x8 as opposed to two 1x8 sticks. Generally the more you buy at once the better the price will be per unit.

 

For example the single stick you linked is $93 at 1600mhz. That would be $186 for two sticks. For $180 you could have 16GB of RAM running at 1866mhz. So, for $6 less you can have the same amount of RAM running faster than if you had just bought the two single sticks.

 

16GB DDR3 1866mhz $180: http://www.msy.com.au/saonline/home/13325--kingston-hyperx-fury-blue-hx318c10fk2-16-16g-kit-4gx2-ddr3-1866mhz-desktop-ram.html

16GB DDR3 1600mhz $179: http://www.msy.com.au/saonline/home/13324--kingston-hyperx-fury-blue-hx316c10fk2-16-16g-kit-4gx2-ddr3-1600mhz-desktop-ram.html

 

In all honesty there is no reason not to step up to the 1866mhz option with only $1 between them.

[MrRX7]

Also running 2x8GB now allows you to more easily expand to 32GB in the future if you ever wanted to. 

 

Yes that would work with your motherboard.

 

Theoretically, if the sticks are made by the same manufacturer and have the same specs, the only difference is price. You should save some money (however small) by getting the 2x8 as opposed to two 1x8 sticks. Generally the more you buy at once the better the price will be per unit.

 

For example the single stick you linked is $93 at 1600mhz. That would be $186 for two sticks. For $180 you could have 16GB of RAM running at 1866mhz. So, for $6 less you can have the same amount of RAM running faster than if you had just bought the two single sticks.

 

16GB DDR3 1866mhz $180: http://www.msy.com.au/saonline/home/13325--kingston-hyperx-fury-blue-hx318c10fk2-16-16g-kit-4gx2-ddr3-1866mhz-desktop-ram.html

16GB DDR3 1600mhz $179: http://www.msy.com.au/saonline/home/13324--kingston-hyperx-fury-blue-hx316c10fk2-16-16g-kit-4gx2-ddr3-1600mhz-desktop-ram.html

 

In all honesty there is no reason not to step up to the 1866mhz option with only $1 between them.

 

ok the motherboard only accepts 1600mhz ram though, please explain OC ?

[JonU]

ok the motherboard only accepts 1600mhz ram though, please explain OC ?

 

Here is what the Gigabyte Z87-HD3 supports: Support for DDR3 3000(O.C.) / 2933(O.C.) / 2800(O.C.) / 2666(O.C.) / 2600(O.C.) / 2500(O.C.) / 2400(O.C.) / 2200(O.C.) / 2133(O.C.) / 2000(O.C.) / 1866(O.C.) / 1800(O.C.) / 1600 / 1333 MHz memory modules

 

What that O.C. means is that when running those speeds your memory controller will be overclocked from what it is rated (1600mhz in this case). Once you install the RAM, the BIOS will detect the specs and configuration of the RAM (this is found in your mobo manual). If you don't have or don't know where your mobo manual is; click on this link and go to support and downloads to grab a pdf manual. 

[MrRX7]

Here is what the Gigabyte Z87-HD3 supports: Support for DDR3 3000(O.C.) / 2933(O.C.) / 2800(O.C.) / 2666(O.C.) / 2600(O.C.) / 2500(O.C.) / 2400(O.C.) / 2200(O.C.) / 2133(O.C.) / 2000(O.C.) / 1866(O.C.) / 1800(O.C.) / 1600 / 1333 MHz memory modules

 

What that O.C. means is that when running those speeds your memory controller will be overclocked from what it is rated (1600mhz in this case). Once you install the RAM, the BIOS will detect the specs and configuration of the RAM (this is found in your mobo manual). If you don't have or don't know where your mobo manual is; click on this link and go to support and downloads to grab a pdf manual. 

would that affect other parts of the system? and would it decrease lifespan of the ram and make it hotter?

[Seed]

I have some DDR3 1600 MHz 2x8GB DIMMs that I don't need anymore. Broke down a couple lab machines. PM me if you're interested. I'll give you a fair price.