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Hi guys,

 

Long time reader, first time poster here 

 

I've just purchased a 4770K and now I'm on a hunt for the chapest motherboard that will still allow me to over clock to at least 4.5Ghz

 

My setup is:

 

- i7 4770K

- 2X4GB G Skill TridentX F3-2400C10-4GTX

- PSU is an older one but I believe it can take the extra power (please confirm or advise how I can test)

 

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So I'm looking to hear experiences from users with similar setups that have succeeded in overclocking to at least 4.5Ghz with a cheap motherboard.

 

I'm really over budget and can't afford a top end mobo :)

 

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at low voltage (my assumption is you're not gonna run phase change or ln2) clock speed is determined by the chip not the board. something like a z97-a or msi g55 sli will do. make sure you have a cooler :)

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max budget and location?

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z97g45gaming

 

 

this seems to be a great buy now

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You'll be lucky to get 4.2Ghz with that CPU, sadly. No matter which mobo you'll be using. Gigabytes latest BIOS version has enhanced overclocking stavility.

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Jesus Christ! I'm in love with this forum already! Thanks for the fast replies :)

 

That's interesting, I always thought it depended on how good the mobo is as well as the chip obviously.

Dragoon I'm in Sydney Australia and the budget I'm looking at is hopefully around $120-$140AUD hopefully I can get away with something in that price range
 
Harry is this the z97-a and the G55 you're talking about? The G55 is a little out of the budget...
 
I should have mentioned that I'm new to overclocking as you can tell so have no clue what phase change or ln2. :)
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You'll be lucky to get 4.2Ghz with that CPU, sadly. No matter which mobo you'll be using. Gigabytes latest BIOS version has enhanced overclocking stavility.

 

What? I refuse to believe that. I think most people get stuck at 4.2 or 4.3 is because they only increase vcore, and nothing else.

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Jesus Christ! I'm in love with this forum already! Thanks for the fast replies :)

 

That's interesting, I always thought it depended on how good the mobo is as well as the chip obviously.

Dragoon I'm in Sydney Australia and the budget I'm looking at is hopefully around $120-$140AUD hopefully I can get away with something in that price range
 
Harry is this the z97-a and the G55 you're talking about? The G55 is a little out of the budget...
 
I should have mentioned that I'm new to overclocking as you can tell so have no clue what phase change or ln2. :)

 

I was talking about this one here, but it would be out of budget. Are you looking to order from this website only?

 

http://www.umart.com.au/umart1/pro/Products-details.phtml?id=&id2=376&bid=5&sid=190653 will do on the cheaper side of things. Good enough to do a 'reasonable' overclock (this means lower than 1.3v).

 

Alternatively here is a list of Z97 motherboards in price order. I'd recommend this one myself, I have a similar board and I think it's fantastic.

 

LN2 = liquid nitrogen for superconductivity + mega cooling, phase change is just subzero cooling :P

 

Also you can tag me like this: @harrynowl, makes it easier for me to see your reply. Alternatively you can use the 'quote' button :)

 

@Majestic unfortunately haswell is a crap shoot :( my g3258 was a 4.1/1.3v chip and I tried pretty much everything, piv, ring bus underclocking and the lot.

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What? I refuse to believe that. I think most people get stuck at 4.2 or 4.3 is because they only increase vcore, and nothing else.

 

That's what I have seen within past year. There are so few of those who have 4.4GHz or over it. I think my limit is 4.3GHz.

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@harrynowl no I'm absolutely open to any reseller, if anything umart is awesome as they Ryde office in Sydney is around the corner from my house.

I think I can live with that is there are no cheaper motherboards.

P.S I have 2400 RAM...

 

@LoGiCalDrm that's very disappointing. I just bought the 4770k an hour ago after contemplating between that and 3770K! The 4770 is costing me around $100 extra because now I have to sell my existing 1155 socket MB and get a 1150!

 

Did I make the wrong decision?

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@harrynowl no I'm absolutely open to any reseller, if anything umart is awesome as they Ryde office in Sydney is around the corner from my house.

I think I can live with that is there are no cheaper motherboards.

 

@LoGiCalDrm that's very disappointing. I just bought the 4770k an hour ago after contemplating between that and 3770K! The 4770 is costing me around $100 extra because now I have to sell my existing 1155 socket MB and get a 1150!

 

Did I make the wrong decision?

As far as I'm aware there are no 'bad' Z97 boards so to speak, I like ASUS as they deliver consistency between their products + their uefi is used in a lot of the overclocking tutorials so it makes it easier to follow :)

 

You didn't make the wrong decision no, 3770ks weren't that good either.

 

some of the newer L4 batch 4770ks seem to fare better :)

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Did I make the wrong decision?

 

No, and I still don't buy chips ending on 4.1-4.3, they must be doing something wrong. However, how weird as it sounds, motherboard seems to factor into it. I wasn't able to break 4.3 either on my shitty Z87M-Extreme 4 (never buying Asrock again), but got 4.7ghz on my 4phase Z87i Gaming AC (yay MSI).

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@harrynowl no I'm absolutely open to any reseller, if anything umart is awesome as they Ryde office in Sydney is around the corner from my house.

I think I can live with that is there are no cheaper motherboards.

P.S I have 2400 RAM...

 

@LoGiCalDrm that's very disappointing. I just bought the 4770k an hour ago after contemplating between that and 3770K! The 4770 is costing me around $100 extra because now I have to sell my existing 1155 socket MB and get a 1150!

 

Did I make the wrong decision?

 

If you ask me, you should have gone for 4790K for overclocking. What I've seen 4.7GHz is pretty much what everyone is getting and 4.8GHz is also very doable. Since you had 1155, I would have just upgraded for 3770K. Difference between 3770K and 4770K is really minimal and since 3770K is better overclocker, it really is so minimal. Basicly only good reason to get 4770K over 3770K is better iGPU (said by Linus among others).

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If you ask me, you should have gone for 4790K for overclocking. What I've seen 4.7GHz is pretty much what everyone is getting and 4.8GHz is also very doable. Since you had 1155, I would have just upgraded for 3770K. Difference between 3770K and 4770K is really minimal and since 3770K is better overclocker, it really is so minimal. Basicly only good reason to get 4770K over 3770K is better iGPU (said by Linus among others).

And the platform :)

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If you ask me, you should have gone for 4790K for overclocking. What I've seen 4.7GHz is pretty much what everyone is getting and 4.8GHz is also very doable. Since you had 1155, I would have just upgraded for 3770K. Difference between 3770K and 4770K is really minimal and since 3770K is better overclocker, it really is so minimal. Basicly only good reason to get 4770K over 3770K is better iGPU (said by Linus among others).

 

And the platform :)

 

Okay so I contacted the store where I bought the 4770k (mwav) and asked if I could change it to the 4790k, they were nice enough to offer a refund as store credit for the purchase of the 4790K

The 4790K is $100 more than the 4770K which I've already purchased which was an (ex demo)

 

Is the difference between the 2 enough to justify $100 extra?

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@LoGiCalDrm and @harrynowl

 

 

 

Okay so I contacted the store where I bought the 4770k (mwav) and asked if I could change it to the 4790k, they were nice enough to offer a refund as store credit for the purchase of the 4790K

The 4790K is $100 more than the 4770K which I've already purchased which was an (ex demo)

 

Is the difference between the 2 enough to justify $100 extra?

 

 

Any input here guys? Don't know what to do :)

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4.5ghz is not doable for many 4770K unfortunately, but 4.2-4.4ghz is pretty much an easy number...if you're not affraid to push 1.35v or more through your chip (you need good CPU cooler for this) then 4.4 to 4.6ghz become possible but most coolers can't sustain 1.35v and not get into the 90celcius +...so i think you should aim for 4.2ghz and see how it does...as other mentionned any Z87 motherboard will get you there so pick the cheapest that has the features and look that you are looking for.

 

Don't be mistaken you may have got a good chip that can do 4.5ghz with only 1.3v who knows?  i didnt had that chance, mine is doing 4.3ghz with only 1.19v but for 4.4ghz i need a whooping 1.32v to be stable so for me it's not worth it and the hyper 212 can't handle 1.32v...

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4.5ghz is not doable for many 4770K unfortunately, but 4.2-4.4ghz is pretty much an easy number...if you're not affraid to push 1.35v or more through your chip (you need good CPU cooler for this) then 4.4 to 4.6ghz become possible but most coolers can't sustain 1.35v and not get into the 90celcius +...so i think you should aim for 4.2ghz and see how it does...as other mentionned any Z87 motherboard will get you there so pick the cheapest that has the features and look that you are looking for.

 

Don't be mistaken you may have got a good chip that can do 4.5ghz with only 1.3v who knows?  i didnt had that chance, mine is doing 4.3ghz with only 1.19v but for 4.4ghz i need a whooping 1.32v to be stable so for me it's not worth it and the hyper 212 can't handle 1.32v...

 

@i_build_nanosuits

 

Thank you for the detailed answer, which cooler would you recommend instead of hyper 212.

Hopefully something that's good value and very common so maybe I can find it second hand...

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Okay so I contacted the store where I bought the 4770k (mwav) and asked if I could change it to the 4790k, they were nice enough to offer a refund as store credit for the purchase of the 4790K

The 4790K is $100 more than the 4770K which I've already purchased which was an (ex demo)

 

Is the difference between the 2 enough to justify $100 extra?

good choice i can hit 5ghz on mine but im not a very good oc so i couldnt get it stable at 5.0 i just set it to 4.9 and on auto and she runs fully stable wish i new more about ocing so i could have a 5.0 + oc

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I don't know where the 4.2-4.3 info is coming from but from my last 4 i5/i7 4xxxK's I haven't had a single one that couldn't hit 4.5Ghz in either 1:1 or 2-300mhz away from core :huh:

For some substantial statistics view https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjXDCk5eCp1gdEdENjlDYWl6ZnV4OVlNc0lMU1V3c1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

Taken from http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-guide-with-statistics

 

For non-devils canyon chips I've OC'd (2 of them) I only hit a thermal barrier on one, the other was voltage. DC's were only voltage barriers and just unlucky chip draw. Bottom line you won't really know what to expect until you start the OC process and get some preliminary heat/stability results.

 

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Okay I just found out my 4770K is Batch # L427C153 

Can't seem to find any info related to L4 batches...

 

@harrynowl 

keep that one. l4 is supposed to be better :D

 

is it a costa or malay?

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keep that one. l4 is supposed to be better :D

 

is it a costa or malay?

According to this 

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/intel/18

 

L427c153  L as the first letter = Malaysia 

And it's week 27 of this year which is beginning of July = 2 months old 

 

Is that good or bad?

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