intel or AMD?

[SargentJoker]

I am building a gaming pc in the near future and I have a budget of about $1000 - $1200 I was originally going for a AMD FX-8350 but everyone keeps telling me its going to do horrible in games and its going to cost me like 30 fps and that I should get the intel 4770k instead. I am going to be doing gaming and video editing on the PC so keep that in mind, thanks in advanced to anyone who helps.

[SAV1OUR]

if its just for gaming get the i5 4690k o 4670k

[melias24]

if its just for gaming get the i5 4690k o 4670k

Im with SAV1OUR on that. Intel 15 4690k or 4670k for gaming.

[Jack.EXE]

if it's JUST gaming, it doesn't really matter.

 

"everyone" is lying to you.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

[CCap]

if it's JUST gaming, it doesn't really matter.

 

"everyone" is lying to you.

 

(video will go here)

I had a feeling you might say that.

[MeltyMoon]

I am building a gaming pc in the near future and I have a budget of about $1000 - $1200 I was originally going for a AMD FX-8350 but everyone keeps telling me its going to do horrible in games and its going to cost me like 30 fps and that I should get the intel 4770k instead. I am going to be doing gaming and video editing on the PC so keep that in mind, thanks in advanced to anyone who helps.

No an 8350 isn't going to cost you 30fps in games. If it's for pure gaming your CPU (8350 or intel equivalent) isn't going to bottleneck your gpu in 99% of games.

[Guest]

First 2 Posts are a bit wrong, if it's JUST gaming FX should do nicely.

However always go Intel if you can, which you can.

[Clyne]

I would go with a i7 4770k if you have enough money, if your on a budget then fx 8350. 

[Jodomcfrodo]

if it's JUST gaming, it doesn't really matter.

 

"everyone" is lying to you.

 

(video will go here)

From "theAMDgamer" lol. Just messing with you as you're probably right but in CPU intensive games like BF4, don't the intel chips pull ahead? Maybe that is just something I conjured up. For the most part you're right though.

[JAKEBAB]

if its just for gaming get the i5 4690k o 4670k

 

 

Im with SAV1OUR on that. Intel 15 4690k or 4670k for gaming.

 

 

if it's JUST gaming, it doesn't really matter.

 

"everyone" is lying to you.

 

(video will go here)

 

HE SAID GAMING AND VIDEO EDITING!!!!

 

Op the 8350 is fine and is not going to cost 30fps at all it will be on par with intels offerings and do good job for video editing if u can afford 4770k go for it as if u get a z97 board u will atleast have some sort of an upgrade path as u wont have to buy a new board when broadwell comes out.

[wng_kingsley7]

I am building a gaming pc in the near future and I have a budget of about $1000 - $1200 I was originally going for a AMD FX-8350 but everyone keeps telling me its going to do horrible in games and its going to cost me like 30 fps and that I should get the intel 4770k instead. I am going to be doing gaming and video editing on the PC so keep that in mind, thanks in advanced to anyone who helps.

If you think you can leverage & squeeze into your budget the high end i7 with hyper-threading, go for it! (I kinda had an estalagem when members keep saying you only need a quad core >_<)

[Fluxx]

I think their just lying, 8350 will do fine.

 

the 4770k is overkill for just gaming, it's more for video editing and stuff

(If you do decide to get the 4770k get the 4790k instead, their almost the same price and the 4790k runs cooler than the 4770k.)

 

the 4690k is probably your best option in my opinion

[Faceman]

For such a large budget, the answer is Intel.  FX processors are great for video editing and rendering, but that is about it.  In order to overclock an FX, just to match the stock performance of an i5, it requires very expensive motherboards and cooling, you are better off going with Intel.  Not to mention, FX processors have awful single core performance, which is what the vast majority of games and programs rely on.  If you play games like MMOs, RTS, Diablo, Starcraft, LoL, DayZ, Indies, etc.. they are not going to run as well on FX as they would on Intel.

 

You don't need an i7, only need an i5 for gaming.  If you are really serious about video editing, then go for the i7.

 

Here is a $1,000 build:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XsnWzy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XsnWzy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($78.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($349.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $950.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-03 00:22 EDT-0400

 

This is an incredible build that will handle anything you throw at it from day one, as well as being highly upgradeable.  The performance RAM will help immensely in video editing, it is currently on sale right now, order it before the sale ends.  It is usually a lot more expensive.

 

The Hyper 212 EVO is a very good CPU cooler considering how much it costs, I used it myself for awhile, but I saw a deal on the Cooler Master Seidon 240M for only $60, and I jumped on it.  Keep an eye out for that water cooler to drop in price again, it is well worth it.

 

Your video card is the most important component of a gaming build.  Right now, the R9 290 is the best price to performance high end card available.  It performs almost as good as the 780, but at a fraction of the cost, and comes with 3 free games.

 

If you would like to go with a more premium case, the Phanteks Enthoo Pro is probably the best case out there for your money.  It is $100, but it gives you all of the premium features that one would want, and very high build quality.

 

You have a very good budget, and you have a lot of options, this is just a rough draft to give you an idea of what you can expect.

[Gr8White_Bear]

OP said:

"I am going to be doing gaming and video editing"

 

it isn't just for gaming.

[SargentJoker]

I have decided to stick with the 8350 I can allways up grade later

Parts I picked

case HAF-932
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
PSU corsair 600W
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048
RAM corsair vengance 8GB 1600mhz
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233180
CPU AMD FX-FX8350
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284
Cooling corsair H100i
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032
Gigabyte R9 290 4GB
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125500
Motherboard MSI Gaming
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790

Storage
I have 2 HDDs from my old PC and I will get a SSD when I can afford it

thank you to everyone who replied but the 8350 allows me to get a better GPU in my budget

[Faceman]

I have decided to stick with the 8350 I can allways up grade later

Parts I picked

case HAF-932

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

PSU corsair 600W

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048

RAM corsair vengance 8GB 1600mhz

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233180

CPU AMD FX-FX8350

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

Cooling corsair H100i

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032

Gigabyte R9 290 4GB

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125500

Motherboard MSI Gaming

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790

Storage

I have 2 HDDs from my old PC and I will get a SSD when I can afford it

thank you to everyone who replied but the 8350 allows me to get a better GPU in my budget

Please reconsider.  You have to buy a 990FX series motherboard if you want to get the most out of your 8320. Which I think you intend to do because you are going liquid cooling.  Also, don't spend 15% of your budget on a case, even 10% is a lot.  There is nothing to upgrade to from the FX line.  AM3+ is a dead socket, that processor is from 2009.  At least if you go with Z87 or Z97 and start with an i5, you can always upgrade to an i7, and Broadwell will be supported with a firmware update.

 You can build a MUCH better computer for your money.

 

Here is a $1,000 build:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XsnWzy

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....zy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ Micro Center) <-- If you don't live near a Microcenter, you can use Price Match on NCIX.com, Staples.com, or Frys.com.

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($78.30 @ Newegg)

Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($349.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $900.14

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-03 00:22 EDT-0400

Edited it remove HDD

[Aytac K]

You get what you pay for... Just gaming, go for AMD. Productivity, stay with Intel. FX-8350 is the best "value for money" CPU. If you're looking to upgrade your CPU later on, I wouldn't rely on AMD, they seem to be focussed on APUs.

[Faceman]

You get what you pay for... Just gaming, go for AMD. Productivity, stay with Intel. FX-8350 is the best "value for money" CPU.

It is not.

 

In order for the FX to reach even the STOCK performance of an Intel i5, you need to pay the same price, not to mention, the FX processor bottlenecks high end GPUs:

 

Achievements for the overclocked score:

 

"

Brawn

Your GPU is ready to rumble, but your CPU doesn't want to play." <-- This is direct from Firestrike, an 8350 OC'd to 4.8Ghz with an R9 290X.  It scores 9,000.

 

A stock i5-4670k with the same R9 290X scores 11,000.

 

In Cinebench, the 8350 @ 4.8Ghz  + R9 290X doesn't even hit 100fps in the GPU test, the stock i5 with the same GPU hits 118fps.

 

 

 

Price difference is only $10:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CcjvdC

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....dC/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($180.00) <-- microcenter or price match with staples.com or frys.com

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.98 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($75.66 @ Newegg) <-- Have seen as low as $60.

Total: $281.64

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

Vs.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hbxTpg

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....pg/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($130.00) <-- To be fair I used the Microcenter price here also.

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.98 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($116.90 @ Newegg)

Total: $272.88

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[SargentJoker]

It is not.

 

In order for the FX to reach even the STOCK performance of an Intel i5, you need to pay the same price, not to mention, the FX processor bottlenecks high end GPUs:

 

Achievements for the overclocked score:

 

"

Brawn

Your GPU is ready to rumble, but your CPU doesn't want to play."

 

 

 

Price difference is only $10:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CcjvdC

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....dC/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($180.00) <-- microcenter or price match with staples.com or frys.com

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.98 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($75.66 @ Newegg) <-- Have seen as low as $60.

Total: $281.64

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

Vs.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hbxTpg

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....pg/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($130.00) <-- To be fair I used the Microcenter price here also.

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.98 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($116.90 @ Newegg)

Total: $272.88

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I cant buy everything from an online retailer unfortunitly as I live in a rural area and I planned on ordering everything loacally and picking it up so sales online I usually just ignore as I probably wont be able to tak advantage of them, but I am considering buying the intel then upgrading to an i7 when needed but the cost of the 4690k $299 is not that far off the 4770k that is $369. I forgot to mention I live in canada I dont know if that will effect prices.

[Faceman]

I cant buy everything from an online retailer unfortunitly as I live in a rural area and I planned on ordering everything loacally and picking it up so sales online I usually just ignore as I probably wont be able to tak advantage of them, but I am considering buying the intel then upgrading to an i7 when needed but the cost of the 4690k $299 is not that far off the 4770k that is $369. I forgot to mention I live in canada I dont know if that will effect prices.

Oh, that is something you should have mentioned from the start.

 

Regardless, you should go with an i5.

[The Crazed Child]

I have decided to stick with the 8350 I can allways up grade later

There is literally no upgrade path from the 8350. AMD has given up on the AM3+ socket for now. 

[Faceman]

@SargentJoker

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/6hvH7P
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/6hvH7P/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($254.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($31.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($114.11 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($99.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($389.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1061.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-03 00:56 EDT-0400

 

Much better build, if you want, you can upgrade to the i7 and still be within $1,200.  This comes with performance RAM which will help your video editing.  Also an SSD, that is a very good SSD btw, at a very good price.

[SargentJoker]

@SargentJoker

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/6hvH7P

Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/6hvH7P/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($254.99 @ NCIX)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($31.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($114.11 @ DirectCanada)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($99.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Memory Express)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($389.99 @ NCIX)

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ NCIX)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Memory Express)

Total: $1061.02

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-03 00:56 EDT-0400

 

Much better build, if you want, you can upgrade to the i7 and still be within $1,200.  This comes with performance RAM which will help your video editing.  Also an SSD, that is a very good SSD btw, at a very good price.

Alright I said screw it and put my crapy ps4 on kijiji for 400 bucks

case HAF-932($189) (I know its expensive but its the only case I like the look of)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX29254

PSU corsair 600W($75)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41859

RAM Ripjaws X 8GB 1600mhz($100)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX33234

cooling corsair H100i($120)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42591

Motherboard MSI Gaming 3($150)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX52053

CPU intel 4820k($369)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47851

120 GB SSD ($60)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45374

GPU Gigabyte R9 290 4GB($410)

http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-radeon-r9-290-oc-87-93517-1013.htm?affiliateid=7474144

Total = $1474

[Faceman]

@SargentJoker

 

That is the wrong Processor / Motherboard combo.  Stick with the same motherboard and get an i7-4790k.

 

Also, get different RAM and CPU cooler

 

CPU Cooler:  Lots of people are having problems properly mounting the H100i, just search this forum and you will find the many problems.  If you want AIO liquid cooling, search for a NZXT Kraken x60 or Cooler Master Seidon 240M.  If non-AIO the Cooler Master 212 EVO is an amazing CPU cooler for only $30.  I used one for a long time and I would still be using it if a really great deal hadn't popped up.  Best price to performance cooler on the market.

RAM:  Get some performance RAM, it will help a lot with your video editing and rendering and doesn't cost much more.  Either 1866Mhz 9CL or 2400Mhz 10CL

 

Do you have a copy of Windows to install on your SSD?  If not, you need to budget for that.

[SargentJoker]

@SargentJoker

 

That is the wrong Processor / Motherboard combo.  Stick with the same motherboard and get an i7-4790k.

 

Also, get different RAM and CPU cooler

 

CPU Cooler:  Lots of people are having problems properly mounting the H100i, just search this forum and you will find the many problems.  If you want AIO liquid cooling, search for a NZXT Kraken x60 or Cooler Master Seidon 240M.  If non-AIO the Cooler Master 212 EVO is an amazing CPU cooler for only $30.  I used one for a long time and I would still be using it if a really great deal hadn't popped up.  Best price to performance cooler on the market.

RAM:  Get some performance RAM, it will help a lot with your video editing and rendering and doesn't cost much more.  Either 1866Mhz 9CL or 2400Mhz 10CL

 

Do you have a copy of Windows to install on your SSD?  If not, you need to budget for that.

I have windows 7 home premium that was used to upgrade from vista on my old pc