Should have listened!

[Blair]

I am not downing AMD, I think they make a fine CPU for the price. But the FX-8320 was not what I expected it to be. I will be absolutly honest here. If someone has a 1st gen i5 750 or 760 or a second gen i5, The AMD 8 core is not going to wow you. My 1st gen i5 750 actually performs the same with all my games no joke. And with regular apps like browsing, for some reason the 8320 was slower at loading than the i5 750. So I got almost all my money back for the 8320 and the 990 motherboard, I am out $70 bucks, So I saved a little more, And I went ahead today and orderd a ivy i5 3470 (nonK) with a Biostar T overclocker Z77 board. I have a friend that has that same board and he has good luck from it, Now I know the 3470 non K won't overclock very much, But it can overclock a little, And the multiplier is not completly locked, But I just want something better than my i5 750 , I never overclock much anyway,

 

I just should have listened when I was told to get the i5 in the first place, It would have saved me a lot of time and money. I don't want to discourage anyone from buying a AMD 8 core. Like I said it is a good CPU, And if I overclocked it?  It would have been better than my i5 750 in games no question. But I was expecting to leave it stock and do better.

 

You live you learn.

[TheSLSAMG]

And this kids is why I bought Intel.

 

It's the reason why AMD is known to be best price to performance.

[helping]

For the 8320 to be worth while you have to overclock it. The price to performance is definitely there, but for the performance it /needs/ to be OC'd (which requires a decent motherboard and exotic cooling at extremes, counterintuitive to budget builds)

[SeanAngelo]

and this is the reason why i never pay attention to AMD processors, i know more on Intel processors than AMD.

[xXxYOLOxSWAGxXx_420BlazeIt]

I am not downing AMD, I think they make a fine CPU for the price. But the FX-8320 was not what I expected it to be. I will be absolutly honest here. If someone has a 1st gen i5 750 or 760 or a second gen i5, The AMD 8 core is not going to wow you. My 1st gen i5 750 actually performs the same with all my games no joke. And with regular apps like browsing, for some reason the 8320 was slower at loading than the i5 750. So I got almost all my money back for the 8320 and the 990 motherboard, I am out $70 bucks, So I saved a little more, And I went ahead today and orderd a ivy i5 3470 (nonK) with a Biostar T overclocker Z77 board. I have a friend that has that same board and he has good luck from it, Now I know the 3470 non K won't overclock very much, But it can overclock a little, And the multiplier is not completly locked, But I just want something better than my i5 750 , I never overclock much anyway,

 

I just should have listened when I was told to get the i5 in the first place, It would have saved me a lot of time and money. I don't want to discourage anyone from buying a AMD 8 core. Like I said it is a good CPU, And if I overclocked it?  It would have been better than my i5 750 in games no question. But I was expecting to leave it stock and do better.

 

You live you learn.

I made the same mistake.

 

The 8320 takes twice as long to encode video as my 3770k and 3570k do. Its awful even for the price.

 

It also consumes double the energy that my 3770k and 3570k do.

[Blair]

I didn't listen! I didn't listen! 

[Izaya Orihara]

For the 8320 to be worth while you have to overclock it. The price to performance is definitely there, but for the performance it /needs/ to be OC'd (which requires a decent motherboard and exotic cooling at extremes, counterintuitive to budget builds)

Off topic but you have the weirdest build ever. 

[helping]

Off topic but you have the weirdest build ever. 

you want some pics bby I got them on right now

 

[SAV1OUR]

better example of what @helping is saying 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc

[TheRetiredSlave]

Of course, it could be worth noting that gaming performance is primarily limited by the GPU's power, so upgrading the CPU does pretty much nothing, especially with low-tier GPUs.

 

The i5-750 was more than powerful enough for that 650TI to work to its fullest, so there's no point to upgrade it. If you had a more powerful GPU as well as playing games that take more advantage of multithreading, you would have seen a decent difference between the i5-750 and FX-8320..

[Guest]

Why would you get a Biostar motherboard?

[ejm_110]

I have a 4 year old rig with i5-750, this post makes me feel better. Partnered with GT610 which makes me sad.

[Misanthrope]

I am not downing AMD, I think they make a fine CPU for the price. But the FX-8320 was not what I expected it to be. I will be absolutly honest here. If someone has a 1st gen i5 750 or 760 or a second gen i5, The AMD 8 core is not going to wow you. My 1st gen i5 750 actually performs the same with all my games no joke. And with regular apps like browsing, for some reason the 8320 was slower at loading than the i5 750. 

 

If you have read any review anywhere or asked anybody here, anyone would have told you that those i5 will always win in single core performance, even this old 750. Also I have no idea where did TheRetiredSlave got that idea but if you really did update the processor but kept the same GPU well, double duh. 

People never recommend an AMD 8320 because it will be faster to handle a browser or with the exact same GPU you had, there is a synergy between parts you can't just update 1 part and expect a performance boost.

[Guest]

I am not downing AMD, I think they make a fine CPU for the price. But the FX-8320 was not what I expected it to be. I will be absolutly honest here. If someone has a 1st gen i5 750 or 760 or a second gen i5, The AMD 8 core is not going to wow you. My 1st gen i5 750 actually performs the same with all my games no joke. And with regular apps like browsing, for some reason the 8320 was slower at loading than the i5 750. So I got almost all my money back for the 8320 and the 990 motherboard, I am out $70 bucks, So I saved a little more, And I went ahead today and orderd a ivy i5 3470 (nonK) with a Biostar T overclocker Z77 board. I have a friend that has that same board and he has good luck from it, Now I know the 3470 non K won't overclock very much, But it can overclock a little, And the multiplier is not completly locked, But I just want something better than my i5 750 , I never overclock much anyway,

 

I just should have listened when I was told to get the i5 in the first place, It would have saved me a lot of time and money. I don't want to discourage anyone from buying a AMD 8 core. Like I said it is a good CPU, And if I overclocked it?  It would have been better than my i5 750 in games no question. But I was expecting to leave it stock and do better.

 

You live you learn.

 

I think you should have just kept the i5-750 for now. At the office I use a i5-760 w/ P7H55M-Pro and it's really fast albeit low clocked and hobbled by a 8400 GS (don't ask me why the guy at Memory Express put in a 3-year-old GPU, I didn't have any say in this). If you have a decent board you can probably take the 750 up to at least 3.3GHz.

 

Piledriver in the 8320 frankly isn't an upgrade at all over Nehalem in the 750, I would personally say it's awfully close to a downgrade in fact. People buy the FX 8320 to save money over the FX 8350 so they can overclock it to achieve the same performance; if you don't overclock the FX 8320 there's no sense in getting it over something like the FX 6300 which would offer the exact same single threaded performance, and something like the 6350 would offer better single threaded performance.

 

 

Not really that big of a deal honestly, but Vishera has been scrutinized and is well understood by now, and as long as you don't get fooled by AMD's "8-core" marketing, and don't forget that single-threaded performance is what matters in 99% of everyday usage situations, you won't make such a mistake again.

 

And I also don't know why you would sell it all for the i5-3470. Ivy Bridge has been outbound for about half a year, and even finding entries (let alone stock) for 7-series boards is very hard here. Why not Haswell?

[Blair]

Of course, it could be worth noting that gaming performance is primarily limited by the GPU's power, so upgrading the CPU does pretty much nothing, especially with low-tier GPUs.

The i5-750 was more than powerful enough for that 650TI to work to its fullest, so there's no point to upgrade it. If you had a more powerful GPU as well as playing games that take more advantage of multithreading, you would have seen a decent difference between the i5-750 and FX-8320..

I have a R9 270 now, And yes the i5 750 was more than enough for the 650 Ti, It is actually enough for the R9 270, But it is bottlenecking the R9 270 a little bit.

I think you should have just kept the i5-750 for now. At the office I use a i5-760 w/ P7H55M-Pro and it's really fast albeit low clocked and hobbled by a 8400 GS (don't ask me why the guy at Memory Express put in a 3-year-old GPU, I didn't have any say in this). If you have a decent board you can probably take the 750 up to at least 3.3GHz.

Piledriver in the 8320 frankly isn't an upgrade at all over Nehalem in the 750, I would personally say it's awfully close to a downgrade in fact. People buy the FX 8320 to save money over the FX 8350 so they can overclock it to achieve the same performance; if you don't overclock the FX 8320 there's no sense in getting it over something like the FX 6300 which would offer the exact same single threaded performance, and something like the 6350 would offer better single threaded performance.

Not really that big of a deal honestly, but Vishera has been scrutinized and is well understood by now, and as long as you don't get fooled by AMD's "8-core" marketing, and don't forget that single-threaded performance is what matters in 99% of everyday usage situations, you won't make such a mistake again.

And I also don't know why you would sell it all for the i5-3470. Ivy Bridge has been outbound for about half a year, and even finding entries (let alone stock) for 7-series boards is very hard here. Why not Haswell?

Actually the ivy's are very numerous. I chose the ivy over the Hasswell because I like the ivy architecture. I actually found a ivy i5 and hasswell i5 at the same price, But I liked the motherboard selections better for the ivy. I was getting more for my money going ivy. Budget is limited.

[Guest]

Actually the ivy's are very numerous. I chose the ivy over the Hasswell because I like the ivy architecture. I actually found a ivy i5 and hasswell i5 at the same price, But I liked the motherboard selections better for the ivy. I was getting more for my money going ivy. Budget is limited.

 

Aside from Haswell being [relatively] hot, there isn't any reason to get IVB if you're not overclocking. Z77 offers less features than Z87. Haswell is a bigger IPC update over IVB than IVB over SNB, methinks.

 

If the price justified it, then fair enough. Is your board the TZ77B?

[Blair]

Aside from Haswell being [relatively] hot, there isn't any reason to get IVB if you're not overclocking. Z77 offers less features than Z87. Haswell is a bigger IPC update over IVB than IVB over SNB, methinks.

 

If the price justified it, then fair enough. Is your board the TZ77B?

No it's this one http://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en-us/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=580

What I meant was I found a haswell i5 the same price as the ivy I orderd, But I could not find a haswell motherboard with the functions and features I wanted that matched my budget. I am sure haswell offers a few more features, But I should be fine with a ivy.

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

I have a R9 270 now, And yes the i5 750 was more than enough for the 650 Ti, It is actually enough for the R9 270, But it is bottlenecking the R9 270 a little bit.

The GPU is your limit, the FX-8320 is much faster than a core i5-3470 even for gaming especially once overclocked. You did a mistake, it was not getting the FX-8320, it was to sell it before overclocking it and pairing it with a descent GPU!

I rocked an FX-8320@4.6GHZ for the last 6 months and that thing was getting the most out of a GTX 780 (wich is about three times faster than your R9 270) so there is no way you could have mesured the performance of this CPU in games, sorry.

[Priller]

The problem often lives between the keyboard and seat. Or its the motherboard. 

 

I forgot whom it was on this forum but by changing just 2 settings in the bios as I told him, his Cinebench score went way up.  

[austin541]

i5 3470 is a good choice.

[Blair]

The GPU is your limit, the FX-8320 is much faster than a core i5-3470 even for gaming especially once overclocked. You did a mistake, it was not getting the FX-8320, it was to sell it before overclocking it and pairing it with a descent GPU!

I rocked an FX-8320@4.6GHZ for the last 6 months and that thing was getting the most out of a GTX 780 (wich is about three times faster than your R9 270) so there is no way you could have mesured the performance of this CPU in games, sorry.

First of all I can't afford a 780, Second It was acting slower than my i5 750 that ran stock, So I don't really see the sense in overclocking it when I could have just got a cooler for my old 750, I wanted something stock that could run good stock, I don't want to mess with overclocking and buying a cooler. It is just the way I want my rig to be. I plan on keeping it for awhile and running stock lasts longer. I am not saying the 8320 is bad, I actually think it is a good CPU, It was just not what I thought it was.

[Guest]

The GPU is your limit, the FX-8320 is much faster than a core i5-3470 even for gaming especially once overclocked. You did a mistake, it was not getting the FX-8320, it was to sell it before overclocking it and pairing it with a descent GPU!

I rocked an FX-8320@4.6GHZ for the last 6 months and that thing was getting the most out of a GTX 780 (wich is about three times faster than your R9 270) so there is no way you could have mesured the performance of this CPU in games, sorry.

 

Not every FX-8320 hits 4.6GHz. No harm in trying though.

 

But dude, stop pulling random facts like the GTX 780 is actually 3X faster than the R9 270, which it's not.

[i_build_nanosuits]

First of all I can't afford a 780, Second It was acting slower than my i5 750 that ran stock, So I don't really see the sense in overclocking it when I could have just got a cooler for my old 750, I wanted something stock that could run good stock, I don't want to mess with overclocking and buying a cooler. It is just the way I want my rig to be. I plan on keeping it for awhile and running stock lasts longer. I am not saying the 8320 is bad, I actually think it is a good CPU, It was just not what I thought it was.

even at stock the FX-8320 is in order of magnitude faster than an i5 750...there has to be something that was not configured properly or something, at stock speed the FX-8320 still competes fairly well with even an i5-3570, in fact i tested in watch dogs myself it run's about the same as a core i5-4460 believe it or not...have you made sure you installed the chipset driver and everything that has to be installed for the motherboard to function properly...something is not right here.

But dude, stop pulling random facts like the GTX 780 is actually 3X faster than the R9 270, which it's not.

yeah you're right it's only 2.1578 times faster than an R7 265...can't compare to the R9 270 it's not in the list but i would say it's safely twice as fast..not 3 times.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1127?vs=1036

it's much more than twice as fast as a 750ti though.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1130?vs=1036

[bbqsauce]

First of all I can't afford a 780, Second It was acting slower than my i5 750 that ran stock, So I don't really see the sense in overclocking it when I could have just got a cooler for my old 750, I wanted something stock that could run good stock, I don't want to mess with overclocking and buying a cooler. It is just the way I want my rig to be. I plan on keeping it for awhile and running stock lasts longer. I am not saying the 8320 is bad, I actually think it is a good CPU, It was just not what I thought it was.

if you wanted something to upgrade to and run at stock, why did you pick the 8320, the fx parts all need to be oc-ed to squeeze that price / performance.

[Bloodkil933]

The problem often lives between the keyboard and seat. Or its the motherboard. 

 

I forgot whom it was on this forum but by changing just 2 settings in the bios as I told him, his Cinebench score went way up.  

I remember you telling me to drop my voltage slightly from 1.54v to 1.5325v. Cinebench score went up by 35.