AMD FX 8350 newly installed but I can't run any games!

[Guest]

I believe this to still be a voltage problem. Move the voltage on cpu/nb 1.3 volts and try that. It will be fine. I'm at 1.34 on mine with llc set to extreme it goes 1.4.

 

I tried it and it did not make a difference.

[dimitriianghelov]

I tried it and it did not make a difference.

 

going to take a long shot : try using FurMark to stress test your gpu and see if it freezes

[-rascal-]

After reviewing your Screen Captures again, I noticed a few things. Additionally, there are a lot of missing information.

This is your second FX-8350. Your first had the same issue and you initially believed it was a defective CPU.

Have you tried swapping your Phenom II X4 965 with your FX-8350 (second, replacement one) only once, or several times?

Did you noticed any bent / damaged CPU pins when installing the FX-8350?

1) CPU temperature of 51*C when in BIOS does not seem right

What is your room temperature during these days (typically)?

2) CPU cooler being used.

I asked you before in my other post, but you never provided the information. Neither did you indicate it in any of your posts thus far.

What CPU cooler are you currently using?

What thermal paste did you use, and how did you apply it (i.e. pea size in the middle, spread, X pattern, etc)?

Is the CPU cooler mounted properly? Is it possible to post a picture of how the cooler is mounted?

If you are re-using your existing heatsink / CPU cooler, did you clean off the old paste before applying a new amount?

3) VRM / Northbridge / Southbridge temperatures?

Looking at your BIOS screen captures, there are not NB and SB temperature readings. Only CPU and motherboard

Did you see any temperature readings for the NB and SB when using a temperature monitoring software (i.e. HWMonitor, AIDA64)?

If so, what are the temperature reagins for them? During idle? During load?

If you need help determining which temperature reading is which, please post a screen shot.

[Guest]

going to take a long shot : try using FurMark to stress test your gpu and see if it freezes

 

Here's the thing. Every time I try testing my GPU or my RAM, my computer freezes or restarts. It froze before when I ran FurMark, Unigine Heaven, and a RAM intensive test. The thing about it is that when I had my previous CPU installed, none of these problems arose so I know that it can't be an issue with my GPU or RAM. However, it is still odd to me that my pc freezes when I try to test them or run a graphically intense game.

[Guest]

After reviewing your Screen Captures again, I noticed a few things. Additionally, there are a lot of missing information.

This is your second FX-8350. Your first had the same issue and you initially believed it was a defective CPU.

Have you tried swapping your Phenom II X4 965 with your FX-8350 (second, replacement one) only once, or several times?

Did you noticed any bent / damaged CPU pins when installing the FX-8350?

1) CPU temperature of 51*C when in BIOS does not seem right

What is your room temperature during these days (typically)?

2) CPU cooler being used.

I asked you before in my other post, but you never provided the information. Neither did you indicate it in any of your posts thus far.

What CPU cooler are you currently using?

What thermal paste did you use, and how did you apply it (i.e. pea size in the middle, spread, X pattern, etc)?

Is the CPU cooler mounted properly? Is it possible to post a picture of how the cooler is mounted?

If you are re-using your existing heatsink / CPU cooler, did you clean off the old paste before applying a new amount?

3) VRM / Northbridge / Southbridge temperatures?

Looking at your BIOS screen captures, there are not NB and SB temperature readings. Only CPU and motherboard

Did you see any temperature readings for the NB and SB when using a temperature monitoring software (i.e. HWMonitor, AIDA64)?

If so, what are the temperature reagins for them? During idle? During load?

If you need help determining which temperature reading is which, please post a screen shot.

 

I swapped out my first 8350 with my Phenom II but I have not yet tried swapping my current one out with my old CPU for I feel that it will run completely fine just as before. I did not see any problems with the new CPU itself when I was installing it and I also took great care when installing it so I do not think that it is damaged. My room temperature on average is between 70-72 F. As far as my CPU cooler, I am using the heatsink that came with it with the pre-applied thermal paste. I can also assure you that the heatsink is mounted correctly for I have had to mount them frequently in these past few weeks. As far as the temperature readings for my NB and SB, I will figure those out when I'm around my pc a little later.

[S3NL4C]

Your temps are wayyyyyyyy too hot, the fx8350 throttles at 61c. Make sure you have a decent cooler and have applied thermal paste correctly. Your temps should be no higher than 40c at idle and 55c at full load. That's what I get at a 5ghz over clock, so set up correctly with a good cooler you should achieve those temps at stock easily.

[dimitriianghelov]

Here's the thing. Every time I try testing my GPU or my RAM, my computer freezes or restarts. It froze before when I ran FurMark, Unigine Heaven, and a RAM intensive test. The thing about it is that when I had my previous CPU installed, none of these problems arose so I know that it can't be an issue with my GPU or RAM. However, it is still odd to me that my pc freezes when I try to test them or run a graphically intense game.

 

 

well that's good because there only is 1 thing left: when doing one of those tests, run core temp on the side of the screen and look at the temp if going way above 65*C 149*F when it freezes /crashes

 

i will say it again the stock cooler for fx 8350 is absolutly junk it cannot run any game during summer, you could try going and getting silver arctic paste , removing the paste both from cpu and cooler adding the new paste and see if it loads the games,

[S3NL4C]

I swapped out my first 8350 with my Phenom II but I have not yet tried swapping my current one out with my old CPU for I feel that it will run completely fine just as before. I did not see any problems with the new CPU itself when I was installing it and I also took great care when installing it so I do not think that it is damaged. My room temperature on average is between 70-72 F. As far as my CPU cooler, I am using the heatsink that came with it with the pre-applied thermal paste. I can also assure you that the heatsink is mounted correctly for I have had to mount them frequently in these past few weeks. As far as the temperature readings for my NB and SB, I will figure those out when I'm around my pc a little later.

If you have been taking off the heatsink and putting it back on you have likely messed up the thermal paste. Buy some new thermal paste, clean, reapply and try again.

Also, buy a good cooler. I have a cooler master seidon 240m, but a corsair h80 would do the trick

[bbqsauce]

If you have been taking off the heatsink and putting it back on you have likely messed it up. Buy some new thermal paste, clean, reapply and try again.

@Darkvain this. you need to clean off the paste and re apply every remount.

[Faa]

Priller is correct. All of your voltages are way to low. When you get the voltages set correctly, and based off of your previous temperatures, that stock heat sink will have a hard time keeping it cool unless you get better air flow in your case.

No he's not and it isn't. Voltages are hardcoded in the cpu, bios reads that up ships it to the pwm chip and magic happens.

Also the board shows the current vcore, it's not boosted to its max clock in the bios so it's normal to see lower vcores than under load in windows. Eg I have 1.40V with LLC a 1:1 ratio to bios, in the bios it just reports 1.18V

[Chris635]

No he's not and it isn't. Voltages are hardcoded in the cpu, bios reads that up ships it to the pwm chip and magic happens.

Also the board shows the current vcore, it's not boosted to its max clock in the bios so it's normal to see lower vcores than under load in windows. Eg I have 1.40V with LLC a 1:1 ratio to bios, in the bios it just reports 1.18V

Crap. He's using offset mode not manual. I looked at it wrong. Thinks for bring this to my attention. He probably is running over 1.4v

[ohJey]

Try resetting the bios settings to default?

[Faa]

Crap. He's using offset mode not manual. I looked at it wrong. Thinks for bring this to my attention. He probably is running over 1.4v

With default settings, change it to manual it should still undervolt when downclocking except if you change the multiplier manually then you have a fixed vcore even when downclocking. Point is the CPU's clock speed isn't max'ed when you're just browsing through your bios unless you disable turbo ratio/boost.

[-rascal-]

I swapped out my first 8350 with my Phenom II but I have not yet tried swapping my current one out with my old CPU for I feel that it will run completely fine just as before. I did not see any problems with the new CPU itself when I was installing it and I also took great care when installing it so I do not think that it is damaged. My room temperature on average is between 70-72 F. As far as my CPU cooler, I am using the heatsink that came with it with the pre-applied thermal paste. I can also assure you that the heatsink is mounted correctly for I have had to mount them frequently in these past few weeks. As far as the temperature readings for my NB and SB, I will figure those out when I'm around my pc a little later.

 

70*F - 72*F is equal to about 21*C - 22*C.

Your FX-8350 running at stock should idle much lower than 51*C / 124*F sitting in BIOS.

A temperature difference between room and idle of 30*C / 86*F doesn't seem "normal" - even with the stock cooler

 

Please post a picture(s) on how the CPU cooler is mounted.

The pre-applied thermal paste could be not making full 100% contact with the CPU. This is why people don't recommend spreading thermal paste out, and just use the "grain of rice in the center" method.

I mean frick, even with the THICK Antec Fromula 7 thermal paste I use, I just put a small amount on the center of the CPU, and let the pressure from the CPU heatsink mounting spread it out.

 

Here's something interesting for you to check out.

[Priller]

No he's not and it isn't. Voltages are hardcoded in the cpu, bios reads that up ships it to the pwm chip and magic happens.

Also the board shows the current vcore, it's not boosted to its max clock in the bios so it's normal to see lower vcores than under load in windows. Eg I have 1.40V with LLC a 1:1 ratio to bios, in the bios it just reports 1.18V

 

Most motherboards dont load the correct voltages off the bat. I have to reboot several times in order to get the correct voltages to appear in the bios. It even screws up the voltage I add to the CPU. So if I add 0.050 volts instead of it being 1.475 it turns up to be 1.385 volts. It happens almost every time a major reset is required. 

[Guest]

I recently just ordered a liquid cooler for my CPU which should arrive in a few days. I'm going to try using that and see if it fixes my problem. If not, then I will do everything you guys have been saying for the past 10+ comments. 

[Faceman]

I recently just ordered a liquid cooler for my CPU which should arrive in a few days. I'm going to try using that and see if it fixes my problem. If not, then I will do everything you guys have been saying for the past 10+ comments. 

You should do everything they have recommended before spending any more money.  You are doing this backwards.

[swifty7]

if all else fails then I guess you'll have to get a new amd mobo.   If you're suspecting that cooling is the problem then why did you spend all that money on a liquid cooler?  You should have gotten yourself a Hyper 212 evo

 

which os are you using win 7 or 8?

 

also how many watts is your psu?

[Guest]

I was planning on purchasing a liquid cooler in the future so I might as well get it now. Besides that, it was only $60. I installed it and it didn't change a damn thing. I asked the IT at my school and he said it was probably an issue in dealing with AMD's equivalent of hyperthreading in their new CPU's. He told me to look for a setting for it in my BIOS but I didn't have time to check cause I had to leave my setup for a few weeks. So, I'm gonna try that when I get back.