OLED VRR flicker

[porina]

I've had the Dell AW3225QF for about 10 months and it has been great. Since I recently got a 5070 Ti to replace the 4070, it feels like I've noticed VRR flicker more often than before. I can only speculate as to the cause. With the higher performance, am I amplifying the differences between averages and lows, inducing the VRR flicker more often than before? With the 4070, I only ever saw it during some loading screens so it didn't matter. But now I see it sometimes in game menus in particular.

 

Debating solutions to this. I'm not sure a fps cap would work, as I get it even in games locked to 60fps. It looks like 1% lows drop to around 48fps which is causing it. I tried turning off G-Sync, so no VRR at all, and that seems to work apart from I can feel the latency increase from V-Sync. 240 Hz is still a bit low for that. I don't play highly latency sensitive games.

 

Wait, I just re-checked the VRR range of my display. It is 49-240. Maybe lows are dropping below that so it enters/leaves VRR mode. Not sure what to do with this info right now.

 

Any thoughts?

[Stahlmann]

It can happen any time when you get big fps changes, doesn't matter if it's during gameplay, in menus or loading screens. Maybe you started to notice it more because of a specific game you didn't play before. When switching from a 3080 to a 4080 I didn't see any change in VRR flicker behavior. To me it was never distracting enough to take away from the other advantages OLED brings.

[porina]

5 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Maybe you started to notice it more because of a specific game you didn't play before.

It's happening in games I've been playing for years. Good point it doesn't affect all games. I might try selectively disabling VRR in the worst affected ones.

[WereCat]

Time to enable frame gen?

[porina]

3 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Time to enable frame gen?

Don't think any game I play regularly supports it, so injection isn't even an option. You do remind me, I want to try out MFG at some point to see if I agree with what some in the media say about it feeling better than single FG.

[Lurick]

Do you have Dynamic Refresh Rate enabled in Windows by chance?

[porina]

13 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Do you have Dynamic Refresh Rate enabled in Windows by chance?

That's off.

 

Also the setting in Nvidia is for full screen only. If I have windowed enabled it makes the desktop flicker when a game is running and other situations. This one isn't limited to OLED I think. I saw similar on IPS panels in the past.

[nano_705]

It's a known issue for OLED, and honestly there is no way around it. I just choose to accept the fate and leave the option off. Screen tearing, on the other hand, is a non-issue nowadays.

[Doobeedoo]

From title I was about to ask what fps range and such, for sure happens at lower. Also are you in dark where you notice it more. 

I have not notice any flicker yet on my 32" LG though. I wonder how game dependant that may be.