32 gigs vs 64

[Beansandbeer]

So I just added 32 gigs of ram to my PC taking it from 32 to 64. Memory modules are the exact same. I'm able to POST as well as access UEFI and the additional RAM shows up in UEFI. when I load into Windows 11 I get instant BSoD for memory issues. I'm able to reduce the MHz frequency from 6000 to 5600 and it's stable. My main question is rather it's better to run 64 gigs at 5600 or 32 gigs at 6000?

[RONOTHAN##]

Do you need more than 32GB? If yes, then it doesn't matter if it's at 3600MT/s, it's still faster than hitting the page file and will be faster overall. If not (say if you're just gaming), then 6000MT/s will be faster since the extra ram is just wasted doing nothing. 

[Rodinski]

More sticks tend to be less stable.

[Beansandbeer]

3 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Do you need more than 32GB? If yes, then it doesn't matter if it's at 3600MT/s, it's still faster than hitting the page file and will be faster overall. If not (say if you're just gaming), then 6000MT/s will be faster since the extra ram is just wasted doing nothing. 

Thank you for the reply!

 

The primary reason for adding more ram is when gaming and having a browser open I'd reach ram utilization of up to 70% which seems kind of high IMO. 

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, Beansandbeer said:

Thank you for the reply!

 

The primary reason for adding more ram is when gaming and having a browser open I'd reach ram utilization of up to 70% which seems kind of high IMO. 

70% isn't running out nor really that bad. If you were at 90-something then maybe it's worth it, but at this point I'd just take the extra RAM out

[BiotechBen]

10 minutes ago, Beansandbeer said:

The primary reason for adding more ram is when gaming and having a browser open I'd reach ram utilization of up to 70% which seems kind of high IMO. 

This is where perspective is crucial:

70% of 8gb is 5.6gb, 2.4gb remaining

70% of 16gb is 11.2gb, 4.8gb remaining

70% of 32gb is 22.4gb, 9.6gb remaining

 

9.6 GB is a significant amount of RAM to have unused, greater than the entire allocation for a base MacBook pro

[Mayday793]

12 minutes ago, Beansandbeer said:

utilization of up to 70%

Windows and Google Chrome can be very weird with RAM utilization. You could add another 16GB of ram and i wouldnt be surprised if you still saw 50% ram usage. Theres big brain OS things that go with RAM allocation that arent easily explained (i barely remember from my university course on it).

Also as other people have said already, 70% of ram still means you got lots of ram left, so you shouldnt worry.

[Beansandbeer]

This is a great perspective. Thank you! My thought process was running a game and having a chrome tab open and I'm using that much ram. Maybe I needed more. 

[Dedayog]

15 minutes ago, Beansandbeer said:

This is a great perspective. Thank you! My thought process was running a game and having a chrome tab open and I'm using that much ram. Maybe I needed more. 

As said above, get more when you use over 90%. 

 

Are you using the latest bios?

 

I run 4x16gb with the system in my sig, when I run multiple games.   July's bios as well, win 11.

 

Try updating bios.  If you still can't get 64gb to run, return the extra kit.

 

You only need 32gb at this point .

[Eigenvektor]

2 hours ago, Mayday793 said:

Windows and Google Chrome can be very weird with RAM utilization. You could add another 16GB of ram and i wouldnt be surprised if you still saw 50% ram usage. Theres big brain OS things that go with RAM allocation that arent easily explained (i barely remember from my university course on it).

It's not that complicated really. The more RAM is available, the more of it will be used as cache (as long as it isn't actively needed by running programs).

 

Cache can speed things up, because instead of loading a program from disk or reloading a webpage over the Internet, it can simply be kept in memory.

 

Of course with a fast NVMe or a fast Internet connection the advantage of a larger cache diminishes somewhat.

 

Task manager should show how much memory is in use as cache and how much is actually used by running applications.

[Pasi123]

Have you checked how high the page file usage is? Windows doesn't always use more than 70-80% of physical memory and will instead start throwing things on the page file.

[Bagzie]

21 hours ago, Beansandbeer said:

So I just added 32 gigs of ram to my PC taking it from 32 to 64. Memory modules are the exact same. I'm able to POST as well as access UEFI and the additional RAM shows up in UEFI. when I load into Windows 11 I get instant BSoD for memory issues. I'm able to reduce the MHz frequency from 6000 to 5600 and it's stable. My main question is rather it's better to run 64 gigs at 5600 or 32 gigs at 6000?

What platform are you on , If its AM5 try maxing out the soc voltage to 1.3v and see if it'll run 6000mhz then.

 

It probably won't be enough but your cpus memory controller is having issues and 1.3v is the max safe voltage so worth a crack before you give up.

[jaslion]

On 9/12/2024 at 4:24 AM, Beansandbeer said:

Thank you for the reply!

 

The primary reason for adding more ram is when gaming and having a browser open I'd reach ram utilization of up to 70% which seems kind of high IMO. 

Fyi windowz 10 and 11 treat unused ram as wasted ram and will park A LOT of stuff in ram so it will load instantly. Try pushing 32gb to 90% and you'll noticr you'd need a CRAZY amount of stuff open as windows will just drop unused stuff from ram.