PSU at 100%!!

[Noisyxd31]

Hello everybody!!!! 

 

A long time ago you guys helped me out on solving many problems with my PC. But ow that I gained much more experience I tried to carry on with myself.

 

But recently I noticed that when I run powerful programs like games, the PC made a static noise, which came exactly from my PSU, so I decided to run a benchmark while playing.

Apart from noticing that the CPU was almost reaching 80 degrees (Which is a problem that I'll fix tomorrow Monday), I noticed that the PSU consumption was a 100%!!!!
So to prevent any damage to the rest of the components I turned it off so I could work on resolving the problem (and also to change the CPU thermal paste and do a deep cleaning :P)

 

The PSU is an evga 600w 80+ (white), which is a pretty crappy PSU compared to my other specs (especially the GPU).
Right now I've got an MSI b450m mortar max as the MB, a ryzen 5 3600, 16 gigs of RAM at 3200mhz a 3060 ti.

 

In conclusion, I'm reaching you guys so that maybe any of you can help me get a new PSU.
I'm looking for a PSU capable of at least 850w and fully modular, this is because soon (or maybe not)I have in mind to do an upgrade (Because I currently have a few bottlenecks within the MB, GPU and M.2).
Also, is it worth it to choose an ATX 3.0 PSU? (Taking in mind what I said before).

 

Anyways, If anyone needs more information I'll be more than happy to respond to you!!!!!!

[seon123]

51 minutes ago, Noisyxd31 said:

Apart from noticing that the CPU was almost reaching 80 degrees (Which is a problem that I'll fix tomorrow Monday)

That's not a problem. That's unnecessarily cold, and you're just making your PC loud for no reason. Reduce the fan RPMs, and let the CPU run hotter. 9084°C is fine. 

 

51 minutes ago, Noisyxd31 said:

I noticed that the PSU consumption was a 100%!!!!

How do you notice that? What makes you think it's at 100%? 100% what? 

 

51 minutes ago, Noisyxd31 said:

I'm looking for a PSU capable of at least 850w and fully modular, this is because soon (or maybe not)I have in mind to do an upgrade (Because I currently have a few bottlenecks within the MB, GPU and M.2).

What exactly are you planning on upgrading to? Unless you know you are getting a 4090 within a few months, don't waste your money on unnecessary wattage, and instead focus on getting a decent PSU. What are you actually going to upgrade to, and where are you buying from? 

 

What do you mean by bottlenecks? What does the motherboard bottleneck, and what does the M.2 bottleneck? 

 

51 minutes ago, Noisyxd31 said:

Also, is it worth it to choose an ATX 3.0 PSU? (Taking in mind what I said before).

I know it's tempting to just go for whatever has as many buzzwords and high numbers as possible, but just focus on getting a good PSU, not just whatever has the most buzzwords. 

Edited June 2, 2024 by seon123
Something something

[silencer12]

How much you willing to spend on a PSU? (Budget)

[Mark Kaine]

Corsair RMX (850W) they're rock solid and relatively cheap (at least around here)

 

no feature creep, just solid high quality psu.

[Mark Kaine]

29 minutes ago, seon123 said:

That's not a problem. That's unnecessarily cold,

nonsense, its gonna start throttling at around 80c actually... r5 3600 you'd rather want between 50 and 60c for optimal performance really. 

[Blue4130]

40 minutes ago, Noisyxd31 said:

Apart from noticing that the CPU was almost reaching 80 degrees (Which is a problem that I'll fix tomorrow Monday), I noticed that the PSU consumption was a 100%!!!!

How did you notice that the PSU was at 100%? The vast majority or PSU's don't have enough smarts to show usage.

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

nonsense, its gonna start throttling at around 80c actually... r5 3600 you'd rather want between 50 and 60c for optimal performance really. 

Looks like I mixed up the 3000 and 5000 boost behaviour. Still, from GN, it's about 5% difference at 84°C Vs ambient. For that difference, I would absolutely let it run quieter, rather than at full blast. 

Spoiler

 

https://gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3492-ryzen-cpu-thermals-matter-coolers-and-cases

You likely won't notice 5% CPU performance, but you will absolutely notice whether your fans run at 600 RPM Vs 2000 RPM. 

[Alex Atkin UK]

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

nonsense, its gonna start throttling at around 80c actually... r5 3600 you'd rather want between 50 and 60c for optimal performance really. 

If it thermal throttles at 80C then "optimal performance" is anything below 80C.  Getting it lower merely reduces the chance you will hit that limit, if you never hit it you wont see a difference at all.

[starsmine]

can we circle back to how OP knows its at 100% before we say they should spend money.

What is telling him that its at 100%?
 

a 600W psu is more then enough for the listed parts.
The listed parts could run on sub 500W PSU and be more then fine. 

[Mark Kaine]

8 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

If it thermal throttles at 80C then "optimal performance" is anything below 80C.  Getting it lower merely reduces the chance you will hit that limit, if you never hit it you wont see a difference at all.

not really... amd boost is similar to nvidia boost, the lower the temps the more and longer it'll boost... 

 

[Noisyxd31]

9 hours ago, seon123 said:

That's not a problem. That's unnecessarily cold, and you're just making your PC loud for no reason. Reduce the fan RPMs, and let the CPU run hotter. 9084°C is fine. 

 

How do you notice that? What makes you think it's at 100%? 100% what? 

 

What exactly are you planning on upgrading to? Unless you know you are getting a 4090 within a few months, don't waste your money on unnecessary wattage, and instead focus on getting a decent PSU. What are you actually going to upgrade to, and where are you buying from? 

 

What do you mean by bottlenecks? What does the motherboard bottleneck, and what does the M.2 bottleneck? 

 

I know it's tempting to just go for whatever has as many buzzwords and high numbers as possible, but just focus on getting a good PSU, not just whatever has the most buzzwords. 

Sorry for the confusion, the PSU was a 100% in consumption whenever I executed a game.

About the upgrade, i was thinking to upgrade the computer to a Ryzen 9 7900, and even maybe to a 32 gigs of DDR5, and I was thinking of not to change the GPU, because it's not even 2 years old. But oh well this is was just an idea.

 

Currenly i have a bottleneck bettween the MB (It uses PCIE3) and the GPU (PCIE 4) and also between the MB and M.2 (basically the same problem).

 

 

[Noisyxd31]

9 hours ago, silencer12 said:

How much you willing to spend on a PSU? (Budget)

Is around 150 euros good enough?

[Noisyxd31]

7 hours ago, starsmine said:

can we circle back to how OP knows its at 100% before we say they should spend money.

What is telling him that its at 100%?
 

a 600W psu is more then enough for the listed parts.
The listed parts could run on sub 500W PSU and be more then fine. 

mmm, maybe it is some sort of confusion. I'm not a professional when it comes to reading stats on the MSI afterburner (or in general).

Once I change the thermal paste i'll run the afterburner yet again and attach some screenshots.

 

Edit: But also when I heard the static noise come out of the PSU while playing I freak out.

[Blue4130]

13 minutes ago, Noisyxd31 said:

Sorry for the confusion, the PSU was a 100% in consumption whenever I executed a game.

How do you know this? There is no way to monitor a consumer PSU unles you have that Asus Thor PSU with the readout on the side.

[Mark Kaine]

2 minutes ago, Blue4130 said:

How do you know this? There is no way to monitor a consumer PSU unles you have that Asus Thor PSU with the readout on the side.

Corsair RMI enters the ring!

 

[Mark Kaine]

17 minutes ago, Noisyxd31 said:

Is around 150 euros good enough?

As already said Corsair RMX should be in that price range.

 

 

[Noisyxd31]

Just now, Blue4130 said:

How do you know this? There is no way to monitor a consumer PSU unles you have that Asus Thor PSU with the readout on the side.

Maybe I was wrong all this time, I'll run again some test and tell you again.

[Mark Kaine]

3 minutes ago, Noisyxd31 said:

Maybe I was wrong all this time, I'll run again some test and tell you again.

you cant know this just looking at 3rd party monitoring apps, but it also doesn't really matter,  you say there's a static sound, that's what's concerning  - would actually recommend to *not* use this psu anymore and get a new one asap.

 

ps: ALSO if you already think/know there's an issue running at full or near full load is the worst thing you can do...

 

tldr: as said, highly recommend to *not* use this psu anymore 

[Blue4130]

3 minutes ago, Noisyxd31 said:

Maybe I was wrong all this time, I'll run again some test and tell you again.

Or just answer the question. What were you using to monitor it???

[Noisyxd31]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

As already said Corsair RMX should be in that price range.

 

 

I was checking it out and it looks very good!!! 

But I don't know if it's worth to pay 6 euros more for the atx 3.0....

[Blue4130]

5 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Corsair RMI enters the ring!

 

 

Yes, I should have been more clear, it isn't just the thor that can do it, but it is exceedingly rare on consumer PSU's. More common with server stuff.

[Noisyxd31]

1 minute ago, Blue4130 said:

Or just answer the question. What were you using to monitor it???

MSI afterburner 

[Mark Kaine]

Just now, Noisyxd31 said:

I was checking it out and it looks very good!!! 

But I don't know if it's worth to pay 6 euros more for the atx 3.0....

umm idk either but 6 bucks aint much lol

[Noisyxd31]

2 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

you cant know this just looking at 3rd party monitoring apps, but it also doesn't really matter,  you say there's a static sound, that's what's concerning  - would actually recommend to *not* use this psu anymore and get a new one asap.

Yeah, that's what concerns me more!!!! I would freak out when hearing it.

[Noisyxd31]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

umm idk either but 6 bucks aint much lol

Actually, I would need a new PC case because the connectors are sideways. Now I don't know if it's really worth it...