Is there anybody who buys gpu's with 8gb vram for 1440p gaming in 2024?

[gasolin]

I have some spare money i can use to upgrade my rtx 3060 i love, instead of using it for food or something else that is gone,used for the money in 2-3 weeks

4060 ti 8gb is like 70 euros cheaper than the 16gb ti and performs almost the same but you have been told that for 1440p 8gb vram is not enough for many games in 2023,2024

I know horizon zero dawn in my system with all what's running in the background (2'nd monitor) uses 10-11gb vram, thats the only high vram game i think i have

Then theres a used gtx 3060 ti (only 8gb vram), rtx 3070 also 8gb vram as well as a rtx 3070 ti

Is 8gb enough for games in 1440p in 2024

Is there anybody who buys gpu's with 8gb vram for 1440p gaming in 2024?

[SavageNeo]

8gb of VRAM should be fine at 1440p fro most of the current titles.

Keep in mind that newer titles will at some point require more, so it woudl be wise to go for 16gb if VRAM. Honestly my RX 7800XT with 16 gigs has worked very well, mighjt take that to consideration.

[Tetras]

I wouldn't buy any of those cards you mentioned to upgrade a 3060 12GB. The 4060 Ti is one of the worst value releases in recent times and the 3060 Ti is barely an upgrade and rarely available. The 4060 Ti 16GB has more future utility, but it gets hammered in raster even by the 7700 XT, let alone a 7800 XT.

 

4060 Ti 8GB - Nope.

4060 Ti 16GB - Nope.

3060 Ti 8GB - Nope.

3070 8GB - Nope.

 

If they're decent prices in your country then I'd get a card with more memory, e.g. RX 6800 16GB.

[manikyath]

i mean.. i've got two 1440p displays and i'm still rocking my GTX 970 3.5G

 

it all depends on the expectations you have, and how lazy the game devs are with optimization.

besides that, render resolution has a fairly small impact on vram usage.

 

for the money they are asking for these GPU's there shouldnt be the question of "can i set textures on high with this GPU in any current game", but apparently it's expected we spend 1000 bucks for that experience these days. hence - stilll rocking the relic here.

[gasolin]

I don't wanna get a wattage hungry amd card that keeps crash,resetting the settings you have made in Adrenalin

 

I think i wanna keep the settings and have more fps

 

When are nvidia releasing new 60 card ?

 

In some games you do get more than 50% more fps

 

[gasolin]

10 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i mean.. i've got two 1440p displays and i'm still rocking my GTX 970 3.5G

 

it all depends on the expectations you have, and how lazy the game devs are with optimization.

besides that, render resolution has a fairly small impact on vram usage.

 

for the money they are asking for these GPU's there shouldnt be the question of "can i set textures on high with this GPU in any current game", but apparently it's expected we spend 1000 bucks for that experience these days. hence - stilll rocking the relic here.

same goes for cpus

 

I have tried a ryzen 5700x and a 5900x, yes i don't have a 16gb vram or higher gpu but you don't need one of the mentioned cpu's for smooth gaming

 

Atm im using a ryzen 5600 and are happy with it, smooth gaming, if not it's not my cpu,gpu combination, because it matches each other pretty good

[porina]

27 minutes ago, gasolin said:

When are nvidia releasing new 60 card ?

If you mean 5060, it could be a long wait, well into next year.

 

4060 Super, who knows if it will happen at all. Not seeing anything on the rumour mills.

[Salted Spinach]

59 minutes ago, gasolin said:

I have some spare money i can use to upgrade my rtx 3060...

...4060 ti 8gb is like 70 euros cheaper than the 16gb ti and performs almost the same...

...Then theres a used gtx 3060 ti (only 8gb vram), rtx 3070 also 8gb vram as well as a rtx 3070 ti...

Save your money for now until you can make a more meaningful jump like to a 7800XT or 4070. The former having extra raw raster performance and extra VRAM to proof against even higher resolution. And the latter is much more power efficient than the 3000 series and grants access to Nvidia's frame generation feature. 

 

If your 3060 performs poorly in a modern game, use DLSS. Upscaling helps to skirt around VRAM constraints as long as you dont try to max out draw distance, LOD, or install high res texture packs.

[Tetras]

1 hour ago, gasolin said:

In some games you do get more than 50% more fps

Benchmarks don't show visual quality/texture issues unless you can see this in the choppy percentile lows. Hardware Unboxed have done a lot of testing with 8GB cards, the kind of problems are:

- Popping textures where the engine manages the memory by constantly unloading/loading.

- Disappearing or flickering textures if the memory capacity is exceeded.

- Deteriorating visual quality after long(er) periods of gameplay.

- Poor framerates and stuttering in some games.

 

This is only going to get more common and more annoying if you play at 1440p.

 

1 hour ago, gasolin said:

I don't wanna get a wattage hungry amd card that keeps crash,resetting the settings you have made in Adrenalin

I don't have this problem with my AMD cards. Depending on the deals available, AMD often have better value/performing cards under $500-$550 and that's just the reality.

 

They really need to release a 4060 Super with 12GB and the 4060 Ti 16GB needs a big drop in price to justify the performance loss in raster versus competing cards.

 

Nvidia are making sure these 8GB cards are going to be obsolete and need to be replaced sooner, just like they did with the 3070.

[freeagent]

I have a 3070Ti in my other machine, and up until last year it was playing my games at 4K/60. 1440p should be ok. But if you are buying new, I would probably get something else.

[gasolin]

im not gonna buy a new 3070 ti, found one for under 500 euros (just cheaper than a 4060 ti 16gb)

 

to much power consumption compared to a rtx 4060 ti

 

302 watt vs 165 watt 

 

[gasolin]

3 hours ago, Tetras said:

Benchmarks don't show visual quality/texture issues unless you can see this in the choppy percentile lows. Hardware Unboxed have done a lot of testing with 8GB cards, the kind of problems are:

- Popping textures where the engine manages the memory by constantly unloading/loading.

- Disappearing or flickering textures if the memory capacity is exceeded.

- Deteriorating visual quality after long(er) periods of gameplay.

- Poor framerates and stuttering in some games.

 

This is only going to get more common and more annoying if you play at 1440p.

 

I don't have this problem with my AMD cards. Depending on the deals available, AMD often have better value/performing cards under $500-$550 and that's just the reality.

 

They really need to release a 4060 Super with 12GB and the 4060 Ti 16GB needs a big drop in price to justify the performance loss in raster versus competing cards.

 

Nvidia are making sure these 8GB cards are going to be obsolete and need to be replaced sooner, just like they did with the 3070.

People do buy 60's card for 1080p gaming but cards do play 1440p just fine

 

My 3060 12gb or an oced card, is on pair with a gtx 1080 ti and despite the age i don't think (both) it's a 1080p only card in 2024

[Tetras]

6 minutes ago, gasolin said:

People do buy 60's card for 1080p gaming but cards do play 1440p just fine

Sure, they can.., especially with older games and if you avoid AAA, but like I said, the problems HUB have shown in their videos with 8GB cards are only going to get worse over time. There's no way I'm going to spend $400 on a 4060 Ti 8GB for long-term play @ 1440p.

 

If you're going to dump it in 6-12 months, then yeah, whatever, but for 3+ years, you will end up doing a lot of memory management.

[gasolin]

It's just that if you had your share of amd gpus and for some reason don't want amd anymore it's limited how many nvidia cards there is for not alot of money with minimum 12gb vram, if you wanna upgrade from a gtx 1080 ti (11gb vram) or a 12 gb rtx 3060 or one of those cards isn't enough for 1440p high with modern games in 2024

[Tetras]

16 hours ago, gasolin said:

It's just that if you had your share of amd gpus and for some reason don't want amd anymore it's limited how many nvidia cards there is for not alot of money with minimum 12gb vram, if you wanna upgrade from a gtx 1080 ti (11gb vram) or a 12 gb rtx 3060 or one of those cards isn't enough for 1440p high with modern games in 2024

Yeah, the main problem is that nvidia moved all their cards down a tier, so the 4060 (or the 4060 Ti) is not really a 60 series card at all and there is way too little performance difference between the 3060 Ti and the 4060 Ti.

 

If the 4070 Super was the 4060 (which it should have been) then the difference between the 1440p performance of the 3060 and '4060' would have been worth the upgrade.

[DeerDK]

On 5/26/2024 at 10:01 PM, gasolin said:

im not gonna buy a new 3070 ti, found one for under 500 euros (just cheaper than a 4060 ti 16gb)

 

to much power consumption compared to a rtx 4060 ti

 

302 watt vs 165 watt 

 

Sounds like you want a 4070. 12 GB and under 200 w in most usecases. Can even go lower if you play around with undervolting - I can get you a link to a guide if you need it. 

[Mark Kaine]

yeah 8gb is fine for most games, since it's a midrange card you won't be maxing out every game anyways... on the other hand if a better card with 12gb costs only 70 more, why not go with that? it'll last you longer and you'll be able to play more games at higher settings. 

 

but if 8gb is all you can afford then that's fine too... but i don't think I'd buy a 3060/ti when you could also get a 3070/ti which is much faster? 

 

personally I'd get a 4070 super at minimum, if i was to get a new card, but i already have a 3070, so there's no need... my games run fine lol. 

[Mark Kaine]

On 5/26/2024 at 4:00 PM, Tetras said:

4060 Ti 8GB - Nope.

4060 Ti 16GB - Nope.

3060 Ti 8GB - Nope.

3070 8GB - Nope.

4070/super/ti or bust quite simply.

 

i mean amd is an option i guess (not for me tho)

[daygeckoart]

The resolution doesn't make a huge difference. Frame buffer is only a tiny fraction of the VRAM. The rest of it is for storing textures and geometry and all that other stuff most of us don't understand!

 

I use a 4060 and a 2080 Ti for 4K gaming, mostly PUBG and BF2042. The major difference isn't in framerate but in stutters. The frame time graph shows regular hiccups on the 8GB card vs the 11GB card. I think it's because data has to be moved to and from main memory.

 

Another big factor is the memory bandwidth which does affect framerate directly. The 4060 only has 128 bit for both 8gb and 16gb versions, while the 2080 Ti has 352 bit. But the 40 series cards have MUCH bigger cache on the GPU chip which reduces the need for memory bandwidth so the performance isn't as bad as you would think.

[gasolin]

a rx 7600 xt 16gb also has a 128bit memory bus

 

In europe a rtx 4070 costs more than 500 euros if it just would cost unde the choice would be easy

[SteveGrabowski0]

I wouldn't buy an 8GB card period for 1440p, but I also wouldn't upgrade from a 3060 12GB to a 4060 Ti because it's not a huge upgrade. Techpowerup only has the 4060 Ti 45% faster than the 3060 at 1440p. If I'm upgrading I want 100% higher framerate. Like when I replaced my 1660 Super with a 6700 XT, it was a more than 100% bump in framerate at either 1080p or 1440p and it felt like night and day playing on the two cards. Versus when I bought the 1660 Super to replace my GTX 970. It was about a 50% bump in framerate so it was noticeable, but didn't really deliver the wow factor that going from 1660 Super to 6700 XT did. GPUs are too expensive IMO to upgrade without getting something that's going to blow you away vs your old card.

[gasolin]

I did that to 1660 super i sold for more than what i payed for it (that was the time where people would but cards for almost any price) to a rx 6700 xt

 

The card stock just did crash,freeze or something else and you just had to think about updating,rebotting or something else and it would reset it self to stock setting instead of continue using the settings i have made and wanted to use

 

It was a relief to get my rtx 3060 12gb since it didn't crash and is stable, if i get a crash when gaming it's not related to my gpu

[gasolin]

Update

Do to power consumption and the experince with my rtx 3060 being much more stable than a xfx rx 6700 xt i had

I ordered based on halv an hour to 45 min live chat an ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 4070 EVO 12GB

2 fans, no need for a gpu bracket, just below 200 watt gaming peaking just under 240 watt (compared to 250-270 watt peaking at 350 watt for ASUS Radeon RX 7800 XT TUF), im not taking a chance to get 4 gb more vram to get a 7000 card as unstable in the long run as my rx 6700 xt (had my xfx rx 6700 xt for about 1½ years before i got sick of a not 100% stable card and got a rtx 3060 12gb)

[SteveGrabowski0]

On 5/30/2024 at 9:20 PM, gasolin said:

I did that to 1660 super i sold for more than what i payed for it (that was the time where people would but cards for almost any price) to a rx 6700 xt

 

The card stock just did crash,freeze or something else and you just had to think about updating,rebotting or something else and it would reset it self to stock setting instead of continue using the settings i have made and wanted to use

 

It was a relief to get my rtx 3060 12gb since it didn't crash and is stable, if i get a crash when gaming it's not related to my gpu

Did you buy a used mining card or something? Only problem I have ever had with my 6700 XT was a driver crash that happened a lot when using Chrome, especially youtube on Chrome, which got fixed with a reghack published by Nvidia of all people since they had the same crashes with Chrome. Has been perfect ever since. Never had it crash in a game either, which is more than I can say for my GTX 970. Even when I had it running on a 450W PSU (a really good 450W unit, but still) for a few months.

 

4070 should be a really nice upgrade over the 3060. Right there at that (nearly) doubled performance sweet spot.

[gasolin]

My rx 6700 xt wasn't 100% stable and when installing driver, playing a game that crashed or rebooting or something else it resett it self back to stock settings, which where annoying

 

Not quite doubling the fps but close, i just wish every 70 card has 16 gb vram, so fare for 2 years 12gb vram in 2560x1440 has been enough,a 7800 xt would have giving me doube the fps but it uses around 50-80 watt more  depending on what amd and nvidia card you compare

 

If my rx 6700 xt wasn't that unstable i would still use it today