i5 14600k vs ryzen 7 7800x3d

[starsmine]

19 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

You can get either, the 14th gen CPUs offer support for both generations to help ease the transition

you lose a LOT of performance doing that with raptor lake. especially when your argument is production work. 
With alder lake it was a wash a lot of the time sure, but there is no reason to buy raptor lake and use ddr4. the cost savings are not there. 

[EagleRL]

7 minutes ago, starsmine said:

you lose a LOT of performance doing that with raptor lake. especially when your argument is production work. 
With alder lake it was a wash a lot of the time sure, but there is no reason to buy raptor lake and use ddr4. the cost savings are not there. 

ok thanks

[TatamiMatt]

7 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

ok thanks

Slight upgrades here and there, better cooler for cheaper, RAM with better timings, slightly cheaper motherboard and better GPU

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-14600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£284.99 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£36.29 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£149.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£108.04 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£453.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£109.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1232.27
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[venomtail]

24 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

I don't do any game dev, I do mostly large application development within vb.net in c#. I have started written large real time OS. I also do some other projects but no where near as intensive. I currently have a ryzen 5 2600 and it takes over 20 mins to compile some section

What about simply upgrading your CPU? 5950X is a 32 thread monster that should still be compatible with the rest of your system. Just make sure your motherboard and cooling can handle it.

 

Even if it couldn't, an upgrade to them 3 will still likely cost the same if not less than a new platform. That's why the AM4 platform has been so perfect for upgradability. You made the right call to go AMD all those years ago.

 

5950X currently an insane half price. Get the deal! Even if you need a new 360mm AIO and new motherboard you'll still be under some £600-700.

[EagleRL]

7 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Slight upgrades here and there, better cooler for cheaper, RAM with better timings

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-14600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£284.99 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£36.29 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 AORUS ELITE AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£174.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£108.04 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (£393.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£109.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1198.25
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thank you is it worth getting a rx 7800xt or rtx 4070

 

[TatamiMatt]

2 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

thank you is it worth getting a rx 7800xt or rtx 4070

 

I updated the build there slightly to do just that, the other motherboard still fits in your ~£1300 budget but i tried to keep it around ~£1200 instead

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-14600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£284.99 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£36.29 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£149.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£108.04 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£453.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£109.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1232.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[starsmine]

2 minutes ago, venomtail said:

What about simply upgrading your CPU? 5950X is a 32 thread monster that should still be compatible with the rest of your system. Just make sure your motherboard and cooling can handle it.

 

Even if it couldn't, an upgrade to them 3 will still likely cost the same if not less than a new platform.

 

Currently an insane half price. Get the deal!

Correct, the 5950x is faster then both chips with chromium compilation. 

[EagleRL]

6 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

I updated the build there slightly to do just that

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-14600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£284.99 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£36.29 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£149.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£108.04 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£453.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£109.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1232.27
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cheers

[EagleRL]

9 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Correct, the 5950x is faster then both chips with chromium compilation. 

I currently have a b450 aorus elite and a 500w psu so would definately need to upgrade that, I am also using stock cooler 

[starsmine]

6 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

I currently have a b450 aorus elite and a 500w psu so would definately need to upgrade that, I am also using stock cooler 

Who said you need to upgrade any of those? 
Unless you are also adding in a more power hungry GPU

What do you mean stock cooler, a AMD wrath max/prism is more then enough. an AMD spire might struggle. 

 

Just now, venomtail said:

We'll need to tripple check VRM thermals, might be a close call with that motherboard:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£329.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£66.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £396.97
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the 5950x is not that power hungry that it even needs such a cooler, a Thermalright Peerless Assassin is already excessive. 

[venomtail]

6 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

I currently have a b450 aorus elite and a 500w psu so would definately need to upgrade that, I am also using stock cooler 

We'll need to tripple check VRM thermals, might be a close call with that motherboard:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£329.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£66.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £396.97
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[EagleRL]

10 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Who said you need to upgrade any of those? 
Unless you are also adding in a more power hungry GPU

What do you mean stock cooler, a AMD wrath max/prism is more then enough. an AMD spire might struggle. 

I will definately need 

 

8 minutes ago, venomtail said:

We'll need to tripple check VRM thermals, might be a close call with that motherboard:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£329.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£66.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £396.97
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I have the b450 v1 I think if that makes a difference 

 

[venomtail]

3 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

I will definately need 

 

I have the b450 v1 I think if that makes a difference 

 

 

9 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Quote

We'll need to tripple check VRM thermals, might be a close call with that motherboard:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£329.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£66.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £396.97
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the 5950x is not that power hungry that it even needs such a cooler, a Thermalright Peerless Assassin is already excessive. 

I think we might be safe with cooling if it's that cool. I remember my reference 5800X3D runs hot due to 3D cache. Just remember to update BIOS:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£329.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£0.00) 
Total: £364.99
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