Any thoughts?

[BoomerL4D]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8FQ6ZJ
This Gen 5 SSD is a very good price, and the 92mm fan is for a retro build. Any changes?

 

[8tg]

I would just pick a better psu overall. The choice is fine, it’s a perfectly adequate psu for this build. But this is a 4090 and a 7800x3d, a higher end psu is just overall more suitable in my opinion. 
It’s kinda like any other build wheee they cheap out on the psu, only this time as a scale where the required psu is inherently still a higher wattage, ok option.

 

But I’d choose something like an HX1000i or better, something platinum or titanium rated.

[BoomerL4D]

5 minutes ago, 8tg said:

I would just pick a better psu overall. The choice is fine, it’s a perfectly adequate psu for this build. But this is a 4090 and a 7800x3d, a higher end psu is just overall more suitable in my opinion. 
It’s kinda like any other build wheee they cheap out on the psu, only this time as a scale where the required psu is inherently still a higher wattage, ok option.

 

But I’d choose something like an HX1000i or better, something platinum or titanium rated.

I really thought this was a Tier-A PSU. Well, I will get the HX1000i then. My only question is... will a native 3.0 vs this HX1000i 3.0 make any difference in anything?

[podkall]

21 minutes ago, BoomerL4D said:

This Gen 5 SSD is a very good price,

And this one is cheaper and you wouldn't really tell a difference in their speed realistically, unless you do something specific that actually benefits when SSD reads 8000MB/s instead of 6000MB/s

 

Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($265.00 @ Amazon)

 

It also has slightly better endurance,

[8tg]

Just now, BoomerL4D said:

I really thought this was a Tier-A PSU. Well, I will get the HX1000i then. My only question is... will a native 3.0 vs this HX1000i 3.0 make any difference in anything?

The psu tier list is a weird thing, I don’t recommend it too much beyond just as a guide for what makes a good psu good. 
The MWE gold series isn’t bad, it’s still good, it’s just not as good as you’d expect to see with higher end hardware like this.

The modern HXi series is native atx 3.0 and pcie 5.0, comes with the 12vhpwr cable and such.

The major differences between them mostly come down to connectivity, there’s more options with the HXi for systems requiring more eps connections and such, which you won’t really need.

The second one is cooling and noise, it’s a more efficient psu with a better fan and cooling arrangement. Most of the time if the fan isn’t outright off, you just in general won’t hear it.

They both come with 10 year warranties, they’re products meant to last a long time, for something that will likely last multiple builds a decade or more later, the better thermals, acoustics and connectivity can be nice to have.

 

Like my partners pc is using an HX850i from 2014 still, it’s made to last.

[podkall]

19 minutes ago, 8tg said:

I would just pick a better psu overall.

It's not terrible, it's just B tier

 

cheapest A tier PSU in US is this, so if the tierlist can be trusted:

Power Supply: Montech TITAN GOLD 1000W 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($137.99 @ Amazon)

[podkall]

24 minutes ago, 8tg said:

The choice is fine, it’s a perfectly adequate psu for this build.

Actually it's more than fine, it's ATX 3.0 now that I look at it,

 

also 7800x3D is like 200-300% more efficient than a 14700k for example,

[BoomerL4D]

16 minutes ago, 8tg said:

A lista de níveis de PSU é uma coisa estranha, não a recomendo muito além de apenas como um guia sobre o que torna um bom PSU bom. 
A série MWE gold não é ruim, ainda é boa, mas não é tão boa quanto você esperaria ver com hardware de última geração como este.

A moderna série HXi é nativa atx 3.0 e pcie 5.0, vem com cabo 12vhpwr e tal.

As principais diferenças entre eles se resumem principalmente à conectividade, há mais opções com o HXi para sistemas que exigem mais conexões EPS e coisas do tipo, das quais você realmente não precisará.

O segundo é o resfriamento e o ruído, é uma fonte de alimentação mais eficiente com melhor ventoinha e arranjo de refrigeração. Na maioria das vezes, se o ventilador não estiver totalmente desligado, você geralmente não ouvirá.

Ambos vêm com garantia de 10 anos, são produtos feitos para durar muito tempo, para algo que provavelmente durará várias construções uma década ou mais depois, pode ser bom ter melhores temperaturas, acústica e conectividade.

 

Como o pc do meu parceiro ainda usa um HX850i de 2014, ele é feito para durar.

Thank you all!
 

My question is that the Corsair one and others are not the native 12VHPWR to 12VHPWR, it's PSU to 12VHPWR. My question is if that makes a difference?

[8tg]

1 minute ago, BoomerL4D said:

Thank you all!
 

My question is that the Corsair one and others are not the native 12VHPWR to 12VHPWR, it's PSU to 12VHPWR. My question is if that makes a difference?

No, same wiring. Kinda how 24 pin isn’t the same on both ends and such. Just a different pinout.

 

The last and only time modular psus were all male to male was 2003. 12vhpwr is actually the outlier for seeing that sometimes on new psus.

 

[podkall]

20 minutes ago, BoomerL4D said:

Thank you all!
 

My question is that the Corsair one and others are not the native 12VHPWR to 12VHPWR, it's PSU to 12VHPWR. My question is if that makes a difference?

no, but some PSUs don't come with the 12VHPWR cable, unless my information is outdated

[Dedayog]

2 hours ago, BoomerL4D said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8FQ6ZJ
This Gen 5 SSD is a very good price, and the 92mm fan is for a retro build. Any changes?

 

The Gen 5 aspects are a complete waste of money, but if you want them just to have them... rock it.

 

What case are you using?

[BoomerL4D]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

The Gen 5 aspects are a complete waste of money, but if you want them just to have them... rock it.

 

What case are you using?

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811154017

[BentleyOwen123]

Lmao a 4090 in that will be crazy haha

[BoomerL4D]

A overkill would be this one, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. I saw some people direct-die the CPU, overclock it, and hit 7800MHz on the memory: 
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h2wgcH

[BoomerL4D]

1 minute ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

Lmao a 4090 in that will be crazy haha

I measured, it will fit just fine, but I will remove the HDD bays. I have had this case since my childhood, and by a miracle, I found a sealed one lol.

[BentleyOwen123]

if you could fit a res and a rad in there a custom loop would be sick

[PDifolco]

22 minutes ago, BoomerL4D said:

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811154017

It's a joke ??? Don't do that the GPU won't fit and it'll explode from overheating

[BentleyOwen123]

@PDifolco its a sleeper build, just fuckin around haha, if he does it right and ads some holes itll be fine

[BoomerL4D]

1 minute ago, PDifolco said:

It's a joke ??? Don't do that the GPU won't fit and it'll explode from overheating

I miss the part where that's my problem. You, Generation Z, don't have respect for the Boomers. Back in the day, this was the GOAT. It was my first PC, and by some miracle, I found a sealed one! I passed it a photo with a golf ball for scale. If I remove the floppy disk and HD bay, it will be more than enough. I'm pretty sure a 92mm intake and exhaust will get the job done, right?
 

 

[8tg]

5 minutes ago, BoomerL4D said:

I miss the part where that's my problem. You, Generation Z, don't have respect for the Boomers. Back in the day, this was the GOAT. It was my first PC, and by some miracle, I found a sealed one! I passed it a photo with a golf ball for scale. If I remove the floppy disk and HD bay, it will be more than enough. I'm pretty sure a 92mm intake and exhaust will get the job done, right?

memes aside, cut out the bottom of the case, and add multiple bottom 120mm intakes, put the case on slightly taller feet so it can breathe

that will solve any thermal problems at that point with sheer intake airflow

 

on paper it should fit, , especially if you dont need to worry about a front intake at that point. Id add some vented 5.25" bay covers so the cpu can still breathe though, because the gpu will basically be down there on its own enjoying the bottom intake while the cpu circulates stagnant air

[PDifolco]

12 hours ago, BoomerL4D said:

I miss the part where that's my problem. You, Generation Z, don't have respect for the Boomers. Back in the day, this was the GOAT. It was my first PC, and by some miracle, I found a sealed one! I passed it a photo with a golf ball for scale. If I remove the floppy disk and HD bay, it will be more than enough. I'm pretty sure a 92mm intake and exhaust will get the job done, right?
 

 

Hey, I'm at least as boomer as you, started my PC life on a Apple IIE

But I don't feel any more attraction to these old tin can cases than for the formica kitchen table I had in the same era 

Anyway, also beware of the card height, old cases were often narrower than today's

 

 

[BoomerL4D]

7 hours ago, PDifolco said:

Ei, sou pelo menos tão boomer quanto você, comecei minha vida de PC em um Apple IIE

Mas não sinto mais atração por essas latas velhas do que pela mesa de fórmica da cozinha que eu tinha na mesma época 

De qualquer forma, tome cuidado também com a altura do cartão, as caixas antigas costumavam ser mais estreitas que as de hoje

 

 

Apple IIe? That's a nice piece of tech. You were probably a privileged kid. It's the nostalgia, I think, and the feeling of power over time and matter. Thanks for the tips. It's like 19.8 cm. I will change the cooler for a Noctua NH-U12A or D15.