Roast my first PC build spec, going for a modest £750 1440p gaming/development PC (need mobo recommendations?)

[addycodes]

Budget (including currency): £750 GBP

Country: United Kingdom

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Warzone, Fortnite, Hogwarts, Minecraft, Adobe Photoshop, VS Code

Other details: Hoping to game on modest settings at 1440p and be a comfortable workstation

 

I am most stuck on the motherboard, someone in another thread said I should get a better one for more upgradability but not sure what. Am I missing any performance for the money? Thank you!

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£118.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£93.37 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£62.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£59.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Video Card: MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card  (£299.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£55.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Custom: Wireless Network Card, Ubit Wireless Wifi Dual Band Gigabit Adapter, 867Mbps 2.4Ghz-300Mbps/5Ghz-867Mbps with High-gain Antenna BLUETOOTH 4.0 PCI-E Wireless Wifi Network Adapter For WindowsXP, Windows7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 10  (£18.89 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £758.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-12 20:50 GMT+0000

 

[filpo]

9 minutes ago, addycodes said:

Custom: Wireless Network Card, Ubit Wireless Wifi Dual Band Gigabit Adapter, 867Mbps 2.4Ghz-300Mbps/5Ghz-867Mbps with High-gain Antenna BLUETOOTH 4.0 PCI-E Wireless Wifi Network Adapter For WindowsXP, Windows7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 10  (£18.89 @ Amazon

just get a motherboard with wifi (pasted my list from other thread since it was perfect, drop down to 1tb if you don't need the extra storage)

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£118.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£99.01 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: *Patriot Viper Steel 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£62.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£101.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Video Card: MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card  (£299.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Case: Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £812.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-12 15:34 GMT+0000

 

Justifications:

Case supports longer GPUs, taller coolers and is better overall. PSU is A tier and fully modular. Storage is 2tb instead of 1tb but can be dropped down if you don't need it. Motherboard since it's better for ease of use and is only £6 more than the motherboard you had

[podkall]

9 minutes ago, addycodes said:

I am most stuck on the motherboard, someone in another thread said I should get a better one for more upgradability but not sure what. Am I missing any performance for the money? Thank you!

not right now, you'd miss only performance if you wanted to get like 5900x or something

 

 

 

 

[addycodes]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

just get a motherboard with wifi (pasted my list from other thread since it was perfect, drop down to 1tb if you don't need the extra storage)

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£118.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£99.01 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: *Patriot Viper Steel 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£62.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£101.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Video Card: MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card  (£299.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Case: Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £812.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-12 15:34 GMT+0000

 

Justifications:

Case supports longer GPUs, taller coolers and is better overall. PSU is A tier and fully modular. Storage is 2tb instead of 1tb but can be dropped down if you don't need it. Motherboard since it's better for ease of use and is only £6 more than the motherboard you had

Thank you, I was advised by someone else to go full ATX and also I'd like bluetooth for Xbox controller. Sorry should have added that. Really appreciate your help! Looking in to it now.

[filpo]

1 minute ago, addycodes said:

also I'd like bluetooth for Xbox controller.

it's got bluetooth 4.2, just know that input lag will be horrible. I've got a b550m-itx/ac and it's horrible over BT with an internet controller. Using a cable is much better (and a good 3m one costs only £7)

If you only want it for the bluetooth (and are gonna use ethernet for networking) then get a non wifi board

2 minutes ago, addycodes said:

was advised by someone else to go full ATX

for budget builds it doesn't make a difference. Maybe some extra expansion slots but for many, that's not useful. Would be useful for a wifi card, but this mobo already has wifi

[-rascal-]

5 minutes ago, addycodes said:

Thank you, I was advised by someone else to go full ATX and also I'd like bluetooth for Xbox controller. Sorry should have added that. Really appreciate your help! Looking in to it now.

 

The motherboards with built-in wireless networking has BOTH WiFi and Bluetooth, it's a combo.

 

Even for something like a 5900X (I would recommend a 5800X3D or 5700X3D over a 5900X/5950X anyway) even a mid-tier B550 board will handle it.

 

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

it's got bluetooth 4.2, just know that input lag will be horrible. I've got a b550m-itx/ac and it's horrible over BT with an internet controller. Using a cable is much better (and a good 3m one costs only £7)

If you only want it for the bluetooth (and are gonna use ethernet for networking) then get a non wifi board

for budget builds it doesn't make a difference. Maybe some extra expansion slots but for many, that's not useful. Would be useful for a wifi card, but this mobo already has wifi

Interesting.

I've got a wireless Xbox controller, but only used it as a wired controller.

Agree, if you aren't sitting FAR away, just use the direct wired connection.

[addycodes]

3 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

The motherboards with built-in wireless networking has BOTH WiFi and Bluetooth, it's a combo.

 

Even for something like a 5900X (I would recommend a 5800X3D or 5700X3D over a 5900X/5950X anyway) even a mid-tier B550 board will handle it.

 

Interesting.

I've got a wireless Xbox controller, but only used it as a wired controller.

Agree, if you aren't sitting FAR away, just use the direct wired connection.

Thank you! Good to know, I have the Elite Series 2 controller and have been playing with it on the Xbox with no noticeable lag, either I'm a pleb or maybe it is worse on PC?

 

I am interested to know how you can tell what motherboards will support which CPUs aside from socket size/generation, is there a certain number I should be looking at?

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

Agree, if you aren't sitting FAR away, just use the direct wired connection.

I'm only sitting about 2m away, might be cause I'm using wifi at the same time and there are normally about 5 devices connected to our router in that one room (including phones, PCs, TVs and laptops) so I've just got a Ugreen 3m cable and turned the TV mode to game mode and average latency with V sync on is about 20ms and without is around 15ms. Pretty good

 

1 minute ago, addycodes said:

either I'm a pleb or maybe it is worse on PC?

It might just be for me but it wasn't a great experience. I'd get a cable nonetheless since latency over a cable will definitely be better than wireless

 

Btw I'm pretty sure xbox controllers connect on a different band than bluetooth, so that might also be a reason why

2 minutes ago, addycodes said:

is there a certain number I should be looking at?

for a new am4 build, b550 will be enough for mid range CPUs and optimally get one with vrms on the top too and heatsinks for the X3D and 5900X/5950X CPUs

[-rascal-]

1 minute ago, addycodes said:

Thank you! Good to know, I have the Elite Series 2 controller and have been playing with it on the Xbox with no noticeable lag, either I'm a pleb or maybe it is worse on PC?

 

I am interested to know how you can tell what motherboards will support which CPUs aside from socket size/generation, is there a certain number I should be looking at?

 

They will all support it, but the lower end ones, to hit the target price bracket, will usually cut down on things like:

• Motherboard cooling (e.g. heatsinks)
• Fewer fan headers / RGB headers / USB headers / M.2 SSD slots
• Less features / less tuning options for overclocking
• Cheaper design on the VRM / power regulation

The last point is the big one for more power hungry CPUs like the 5900X / 5950X.

Under load, the motherboard may thermal throttle, because of the weaker VRM, and so the CPU will throttle its frequency.

[addycodes]

Is anyone able to recommend a full ATX motherboard that is capable like @filpo's recc? Having a hard time deciphering them! Onboard wifi/BT sounds fine if similar price but not sure card would bother me, seems good to have it modular? I may want an additional audio/capture card in future so extra PCI slot could be helpful.

[filpo]

9 hours ago, addycodes said:

Is anyone able to recommend a full ATX motherboard that is capable like @filpo's recc? Having a hard time deciphering them! Onboard wifi/BT sounds fine if similar price but not sure card would bother me, seems good to have it modular? I may want an additional audio/capture card in future so extra PCI slot could be helpful.

Gigabyte B550 UD AC ATX AM4 Motherboard (B550 UD AC) - PCPartPicker

this one has wifi 6 - Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WIFI II ATX AM4 Motherboard (TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WIFI II) - PCPartPicker