2 gamers using seperate GPUs in one overkill PC possible?

[WhiteSkyMage]

Hey guys,

 

I don't know if anyone has tried that, I am curious if it's gonna work...

If I put put 2 flagship GPUs in one PC (not in SLI), is it possible if I use one GPU to game on my monitor and a relative (ex. my sister) to use the other GPU to game on her monitor? Assume we game completely different games. Of course that would mean using 2 mice, 2 keyboards, speakers and headphones. Let's say she has 2 USBs on her monitor and uses blu-tooth speakers. Do you think gaming in this way would work (Assume that the PC has Haswell-E 6-core CPU and 16 GB RAM which would be enough).

 

If it does work (I will take it one step further) - will Geforce experience allow ShadowPlay to be used to record 2 different gameplays at the same time on 2 separate monitors?

[Freaky_spider]

you could probably set up VM and make it work, but its gonna be a pain to set up tho

[Cryptonite]

not sure about shadowplay since it might not work well with VMWARE but you could set this up with VMWARE. I have it set up like that but sharing one single GPU and only using my 2500k

[ShadowCaptain]

Hey guys,

 

I don't know if anyone has tried that, I am curious if it's gonna work...

If I put put 2 flagship GPUs in one PC (not in SLI), is it possible if I use one GPU to game on my monitor and a relative (ex. my sister) to use the other GPU to game on her monitor? Assume we game completely different games. Of course that would mean using 2 mice, 2 keyboards, speakers and headphones. Let's say she has 2 USBs on her monitor and uses blu-tooth speakers. Do you think gaming in this way would work (Assume that the PC has Haswell-E 6-core CPU and 16 GB RAM which would be enough).

 

If it does work (I will take it one step further) - will Geforce experience allow ShadowPlay to be used to record 2 different gameplays at the same time on 2 separate monitors?

 

You would have to run a second copy of windows in a virtual machine, and it would probably not run well if you are gaming hard on it but for second simple game it would be ok

 

Probably cheaper just to get One good pc and one cheaper PC for her

[WilliamDB]

How is the PC going to run 2 games at once when it won't recognize more than one input at a time? Even if you plug in 2 mice, you're still controlling the same pointer...

[othertomperson]

More realistically would be if Steam In Home Streaming changes so that the game runs entirely in the background so the PC can still be used while someone is in another room streaming to their TV or whatever. I'd be happy if this happened for a few reasons.

[Cryptonite]

How is the PC going to run 2 games at once when it won't recognize more than one input at a time? Even if you plug in 2 mice, you're still controlling the same pointer...

in a virtual machine you can enable a second keyboard and mouse for just working on that. I have this set up.

[Vitalius]

I have no idea if this is possible, but I assume it is if there is a VM client that can actually use hardware effectively.

I'd actually like to know more about this, as I would like to enable multi-users in 1 machine at home. Basically, I want a monitor to be dedicated to a VM. However, with Oracles VirtualBox, AFAIK, I can only move the window for the VM to that monitor and just full screen it. I'd rather it be separate almost entirely.

[Manny Calavera]

Lol, overcomplicating everything.

If you buy a pc for about the price of flagship gpu ( 750$ ?) you allready have enough horsepower for your relative to game on.

[Cryptonite]

More realistically would be if Steam In Home Streaming changes so that the game runs entirely in the background so the PC can still be used while someone is in another room streaming to their TV or whatever. I'd be happy if this happened for a few reasons.

stream from a Virtual machine. I'm just still struggling with setting it up to work with ethernet instead of wifi  though since my setup for accessing the internet is quite unique and stupid but the only way for me at this moment.

[WhiteSkyMage]

Ok wait guys,

 

So you say with VM? That's not a big problem to tell ya - with 50 mb/s internet (I would probably upgrade it), it could work, even though I am not sure if I need Upload/download speed to stream everything...

 

Also, she is only playing League of Legends so I guess it can work...somehow but what if we both go hard on gaming? My point is not only to let her get more performance but get my CPU at more 60% use most of the time with an OC on top.

[Manny Calavera]

almost same graphical performance as 780ti while almost same price but its a whole pc

 

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[Cryptonite]

Ok wait guys,

 

So you say with VM? That's not a big problem to tell ya - with 50 mb/s internet (I would probably upgrade it), it could work, even though I am not sure if I need Upload/download speed to stream everything...

 

Also, she is only playing League of Legends so I guess it can work...somehow but what if we both go hard on gaming?

nono wait dude, VMware is a program that runs a second windows inside windows, you don't even need internet at all run a second pc inside yo pc.

I've run quite a few games on VMware without any problems, people on Macs also game via VMware's fusion software, same goes for linux AFAIK.

I've run 2x borderlands 2 on my pc at the same time both at max graphics one in the VM and the other on my pc directly, it worked awesome. and that was with my 660 Ti.

[Recon-UK]

Most games will run side by side with good performance on a single GPU/CPU, the only issue you have to combat is that once you click off a game, it loses focus, and controls would not be split.

[Cryptonite]

Most games will run side by side with good performance on a single GPU/CPU, the only issue you have to combat is that once you click off a game, it loses focus, and controls would not be split.

I've already mentioned that you can set up the VMware to be able to have independent input devices.

this is the whole point of using VMware for this.

[Cryptonite]

I would set up a guide since this intrigued me a lot and had me playing around on my pc doing a bunch of tweaks not too long ago, however I'm short on time so don't think I'll be able to make a decent guide because of that.

[WhiteSkyMage]

So guys, in that case, what will I need? A lot of RAM? Is 16 GB enough? We split 8 for me 8 for her. 

 

I am however confused if it's possible that this VM goes on full screen so that she doesn't click outside of it .... 

[Cryptonite]

So guys, in that case, what will I need? A lot of RAM? Is 16 GB enough? We split 8 for me 8 for her. 

 

I am however confused if it's possible that this VM goes on full screen so that she doesn't click outside of it .... 

it takes a bit of tweaking to get this working though mate, also yes 16 gigs should be sufficient. She will not be able to click outside of the virtual machine because the keyboard and mouse will only be connected to it and ignore the host. However yes, you can make it fullscreen, I do this on mine because playing windowed on a windowed windows is enough to make me throw my pc out the window.

[WilliamDB]

Will the VM pick up the GPU? I'm looking at my VM right now and it is telling me it is using a device that has no 3D hardware exceleration, while my laptop has a dedicated GPU that it could use.

[WhiteSkyMage]

it takes a bit of tweaking to get this working though mate, also yes 16 gigs should be sufficient. She will not be able to click outside of the virtual machine because the keyboard and mouse will only be connected to it and ignore the host. However yes, you can make it fullscreen, I do this on mine because playing windowed on a windowed windows is enough to make me throw my pc out the window.

 

But then how would Audio split between host and VM?

[Vitalius]

But then how would Audio split between host and VM?

The same way it splits the input (mouse/keyboard).

In the VM software, you can tell the VM what it can access/use.

[Cryptonite]

Will the VM pick up the GPU? I'm looking at my VM right now and it is telling me it is using a device that has no 3D hardware exceleration, while my laptop has a dedicated GPU that it could use.

You need to tick accelerate 3D graphics when you set up the VM, also you'll not see it as a geforce card but it will draw power from said card. and use it to run the games.

But then how would Audio split between host and VM?

you wanted to connect usb audio or bluetooth audio for her correct? then just choose those usb's in the "removable disk" section inside VMware then it will disconnect from the host and connect to the virtual machine, you can also set these up to do so on startup of the VM.

 

Edit: If I don't reply it's simply because I'm heading home for the day and will be back on once I reach home. I'll help as much as I can.

[asquirrel]

edit: Wait. No. I'm dumb. The problem isn't the graphics drivers, it's the OS itself. Windows doesn't allow multiple windows to be in focus at the same time. You'd need to use the VM solution people are talking about. This will substantially reduce the performance of any game run within the VM (don't expect modern AAA games to play acceptably in a VM, if at all). But yea. That's the problem: window focus.

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Best for this setup...........

 

 

Each person gets 2 monitors.......

 

 

If you can afford it

 

This can only run minecraft at minimum........

 

 

Good Luck

 

 

(LOL)

[Manny Calavera]

 

This can only run minecraft at minimum........

thanks, i go buy now