Need advice New PC build

[eusicaiimei]

As the title might suggest I wanna build a new pc and I want to go for nearly the best I can afford. I already bought a Radeon 7950xtx OC and a 1000w PS but now I want to upgrade the rest of my gear.  For the processor I was thinking ryzen 9 7950x for the motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X670E-F. Now when it comes to the ram I wanna get CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 7200MHz CL34 Intel XMP iCUE Compatible and I'm not sure if they are compatible. Not sure if I'm making the right decision with the ram since the 

Memory clock speed for the motherboard is 2133 MHz   also the RAM seems to be dedicated for Intel and I wanna get and AMD chip.	‎

 

[Slottr]

What are you using this system for?

 

7950X is a very niche chip, very few people actually need what it provides.

 

X670 strix boards are wildly overpriced

 

For AM5 you'll want to look at 6000Mhz and CL30 memory. 

 

When memory says its "for intel", it doesn't mean anything. Just that it was tested on that platform. Kind of like saying you can't change what hand an oven mitt goes onto lol. 

[eusicaiimei]

2 minutes ago, eusicaiimei said:

As the title might suggest I wanna build a new pc and I want to go for nearly the best I can afford. I already bought a Radeon 7950xtx OC and a 1000w PS but now I want to upgrade the rest of my gear.  For the processor I was thinking ryzen 9 7950x for the motherboard ASUS ROG Strix X670E-F. Now when it comes to the ram I wanna get CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 7200MHz CL34 Intel XMP iCUE Compatible and I'm not sure if they are compatible. Not sure if I'm making the right decision with the ram since the 

Memory clock speed for the motherboard is 2133 MHz   also the RAM seems to be dedicated for Intel and I wanna get and AMD chip.	‎

 

Also I cannot seem to find and 7000mhz ram dedicated for AMD.

[eusicaiimei]

Just now, Slottr said:

What are you using this system for?

 

7950X is a very niche chip, very few people actually need what it provides.

 

X670 strix boards are wildly overpriced

 

For AM5 you'll want to look at 6000Mhz and CL30 memory. 

 

When memory says its "for intel", it doesn't mean anything. Just that it was tested on that platform. Kind of like saying you can't change what hand an oven mitt goes onto lol. 

I thought so the intel bit meant tha tbut my main concern was the 

Memory clock speed for the motherboard being 2133 MHz. And honestly I was going expensive since I could not find any motherboard that specified that is compatible with 7000mhz + ram or have pcie 5 for the graphics.

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, eusicaiimei said:

Also I cannot seem to find and 7000mhz ram dedicated for AMD.

You want 6000CL30 for AM5, going further can stress the IMC too much and you won't get 7000+ out of it anyway.

 

[eusicaiimei]

Just now, Dedayog said:

You want 6000CL30 for AM5, going further can stress the IMC too much and you won't get 7000+ out of it anyway.

 

What motherboard would you suggest would work bestwith the GPU,CPU and 6000Mhz ram? Would prefer gigabyte since I'm familiar with the Bios.

[Slottr]

1 minute ago, eusicaiimei said:

I thought so the intel bit meant tha tbut my main concern was the 

Memory clock speed for the motherboard being 2133 MHz. And honestly I was going expensive since I could not find any motherboard that specified that is compatible with 7000mhz + ram or have pcie 5 for the graphics.

Technically anything over 2133 is an "overclock". But the 7000 chips are actively stable at 6000 CL30. 

 

The board won't provide you any more performance, and trying to get 7000Mhz memory will be either lackluster or redundant 

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, eusicaiimei said:

What motherboard would you suggest would work bestwith the GPU,CPU and 6000Mhz ram? Would prefer gigabyte since I'm familiar with the Bios.

Look at the Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX or Pro AX.  They are more than enough for AM5.

 

Both run EXPO/XMP for 6000MHz RAM without issue.

[eusicaiimei]

1 minute ago, Slottr said:

Technically anything over 2133 is an "overclock". But the 7000 chips are actively stable at 6000 CL30. 

 

The board won't provide you any more performance, and trying to get 7000Mhz memory will be either lackluster or redundant 

What motherboard would you suggest?

[eusicaiimei]

Just now, Dedayog said:

Look at the Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX or Pro AX.  They are more than enough for AM5.

 

Both run EXPO/XMP for 6000MHz RAM without issue.

Thank you.

[Slottr]

Just now, eusicaiimei said:

What motherboard would you suggest?

What is this system for?

[eusicaiimei]

Just now, Slottr said:

What is this system for?

Just gaming. 2k max

[Slottr]

1 minute ago, eusicaiimei said:

Just gaming. 2k max

You'd want to look at a 7800X3D instead then - and for the board I would just grab something like an Aorus elite AX. 

[eusicaiimei]

1 minute ago, eusicaiimei said:

Thank you.

Oh, just noticed the motherboard you suggested has and pcie express 4.0. And my GPU works on 4.0 and 5.0 shouldn't I go for for 5.0?

[Dedayog]

6 minutes ago, eusicaiimei said:

Just gaming. 2k max

Well then get the 7800X3D,not a 7950X.

 

Also, please lead with "Someone suggest a CPU for gaming, cuz I may not fully understand them" 

 

The 7950X is not a gaming CPU.  At all.

 

PCIe 5 isn't worth paying extra for, as it provides no benefit for ANY GPU out now.

[eusicaiimei]

7 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Well then get the 7800X3D,not a 7950X.

 

Also, please lead with "Someone suggest a CPU for gaming, cuz I may not fully understand them" 

 

The 7950X is not a gaming CPU.  At all.

 

PCIe 5 isn't worth paying extra for, as it provides no benefit for ANY GPU out now.

I see. Glad I asked before I bought them hah. Thanks for the help guys!

[eusicaiimei]

How does it look now?

 

CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30 AMD EXPO iCUE

 

Gigabyte B650 AORUS PRO AX

 

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D

 

Radeon 7950xtx OC

 

I already have a 1000w PS which I think it's plenty.

 

 

[Why_Me]

2 hours ago, eusicaiimei said:

How does it look now?

 

CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30 AMD EXPO iCUE

 

Gigabyte B650 AORUS PRO AX

 

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D

 

Radeon 7950xtx OC

 

I already have a 1000w PS which I think it's plenty.

 

 

If this is for gaming you want the Ryzen 7 7800X3D.

[filpo]

2 hours ago, eusicaiimei said:

Radeon 7950xtx OC

you mean the 7900 XTX

 

Just now, Why_Me said:

If this is for gaming you want the Ryzen 7 7800X3D.

 

2 hours ago, eusicaiimei said:

How does it look now?

 

CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30 AMD EXPO iCUE

 

Gigabyte B650 AORUS PRO AX

 

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D

 

Radeon 7950xtx OC

 

I already have a 1000w PS which I think it's plenty.

budget?

[Dedayog]

2 hours ago, eusicaiimei said:

How does it look now?

 

CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30 AMD EXPO iCUE

 

Gigabyte B650 AORUS PRO AX

 

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D

 

Radeon 7950xtx OC

 

I already have a 1000w PS which I think it's plenty.

 

 

Lose the 7950X3D.   Get a 7800X3D.

 

I am unsure why you're focused on the 7950X level CPU. Are you thinking more is better?   For gaming, it's not.

 

If you truly want the 7950X3D, you're all set then.

[eusicaiimei]

10 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Lose the 7950X3D.   Get a 7800X3D.

 

I am unsure why you're focused on the 7950X level CPU. Are you thinking more is better?   For gaming, it's not.

 

If you truly want the 7950X3D, you're all set then.

Isn't 7950x3d performing better than the 7800? I'm no hell bent over it. I juat want to get something that will be relevant for the next 3-4 years.

[eusicaiimei]

11 hours ago, filpo said:

you mean the 7900 XTX

 

 

budget?

I'd say about 1200 pounds. Keep i mind I already have the GPU and the PS.

[filpo]

7 minutes ago, eusicaiimei said:

I'd say about 1200 pounds. Keep i mind I already have the GPU and the PS.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£345.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£76.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: *MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£159.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (£106.46 @ Amazon UK) 
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Case: *Montech SKY TWO ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
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[eusicaiimei]

You guys keep recommending ryzen 7 7800x3d over the ryzen 9 7950x3d but I already have a Asus TUF 7900XTX OC. Won't the 7800 bottleneck the GPU?

[Dedayog]

6 hours ago, eusicaiimei said:

You guys keep recommending ryzen 7 7800x3d over the ryzen 9 7950x3d but I already have a Asus TUF 7900XTX OC. Won't the 7800 bottleneck the GPU?

Research.  Just because a CPU has more cores, doesn't mean it's better.  Just like in cars, there is more than Engine Size to take into consideration.   Do some watching of YT for why.

 

16 cores is more than 8 cores, but the 7950X3D uses 8 cores with it's X3D cache only.  No games use all 16 cores to a tangible benefit.

 

Again, look at game reviews and benchmarking.  The 7800X3D is the fastest CPU on the planet for gaming (on average).  Period.  Winning by a small margin at times, but in a black and white world... it is the fastest on average.  Even God uses one.