Overclocking compatibale

[Totally-A-Hero]

So i honestly hav absoulutley have NO idea on what this overclocking compatible is. Im looking at the 8320 and 8350 and i wanna know if any of the motherboards can overclock .http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.aspx

 

EDIT:How well are these boards for overclocking.

[harrynowl]

Something like the FX8320+GA970-UD3P+Hyper 212/412 Evo

[WoodenMarker]

Any AM3+ motherboard is capable of oc'ing. The question is just how well built the board is for oc'ing. 

[FTW_Perverse]

The FX-8320 or FX-8350 both overclock just fine.  I recommend an Asus MOBO for overclocking.  I've used Gigabyte boards in the past that don't give you us much functionality / tweaking options.  PLUS they do offer Auto overclock functionality too for the "newbs" 

[Totally-A-Hero]

The FX-8320 or FX-8350 both overclock just fine.  I recommend an Asus MOBO for overclocking.  I've used Gigabyte boards in the past that don't give you us much functionality / tweaking options.  PLUS they do offer Auto overclock functionality too for the "newbs" 

Yes noob compatibility is appreciated here. lol. So those asrock boards are fine? What is the difference beetween the 2?

[deathjester]

Something like the FX8320+GA970-UD3P+Hyper 212/412 Evo

 

^ That. Going Sabretooth with water cooling on AMD is a gigantic waste of time and money to get lower FPS in cpu bound games then an I5-K. That board should get you low 4's. Asking for high 4's on that board without water cooling is asking for trouble. Add to that they bin the better chips as 9xxx's now.

 

 

So i honestly hav absoulutley have NO idea on what this overclocking compatible is. Im looking at the 8320 and 8350 and i wanna know if any of the motherboards can overclock .http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.aspx

 

EDIT:How well are these boards for overclocking.

 

Microcenter doesn't have the cheaper UD3P I don't think. Of those bundles the Gigabyte 990FX on the end is the good overclocking board, but at that point you are paying the same as the Intel I5 K bundle.

 

http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx

 

If you are going with one GPU? Go with the bottom left combo and a evo 212 cooler. You will get from 4.1-4.5ghz on that board on air. All depends on the CPU. Basically if you live near a Microcenter? Don't bother with AMD. Just build the I5-K. If you are going to add a second GPU later? Step up to the Asrock combo. 

 

Basically on AMD you need a good motherboard, you need to look at power phases and some suck for overclocking. Intel? You are looking at PCI Express lanes. OC'ing between boards is the same. At Microcenter it is a no brainer. Buy the Intel.

[FTW_Perverse]

Yes noob compatibility is appreciated here. lol. So those asrock boards are fine? What is the difference beetween the 2?

 

I said ASUS, not ASROCK.  Never used an ASROCK board.

[Totally-A-Hero]

Ok if i do that intel bundle then i would have to get the cheapest board for sure,i also plan crossfire in future with 2 7870 ghz and then what ever next high end card comes from AMD and crossfire that but honestly when that point comes i will have a job and probally upgrade to a i7 so i dont bottleneck.

[Totally-A-Hero]

http://www.microcenter.com/product/401771/970A-G46_AM3_ATX_AMD_Motherboard

 

So this board is it any good at overclocking?

[i_build_nanosuits]

http://www.microcenter.com/product/401771/970A-G46_AM3_ATX_AMD_Motherboard

 

So this board is it any good at overclocking?

 

no this is the worst possible board to put an FX 8 core chip, you will ruin the VRM's in no time even at stock speed...i wouldnt recommand anything higher than FX-6300 stock voltage on that board.

 

Cheapest options boards that will support a solid overclock on FX 8 core chips:

 

Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P

Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3

ASUS M5A97 EVO

 

Everything else is cheap 4+1 or 4+2 power phase design and you will melt the VRM if you raise the voltage to regain stability on the chip at higher frequencies

 

This one would support overclocking to some extend:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/398235/M5A97_R20_Socket_AM3_ATX_AMD_Motherboard

 

But nothing crazy, no 4.6ghz @ 1.45v...more like 4.2-4.4 ghz @ 1.4v....

 

Also, this shop, why can't they bundle something like an i5-4460 or i5-4570 at a deal with a descent mobo?

[Totally-A-Hero]

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=614982 This for an i5 ? @i_build_nanosuits

[i_build_nanosuits]

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=614982 This for an i5 ? @i_build_nanosuits

yes but you can't SLI/CFX on that board..

[deathjester]

http://www.microcenter.com/product/401771/970A-G46_AM3_ATX_AMD_Motherboard

 

So this board is it any good at overclocking?

 

No. The only non 990fx worth a darn is the UD3P someone mentioned earlier with 8 plus 2 power phases. Like I said. Microcenter doesn't carry it that I know of. Last I built one I had to order it from newegg.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651

 

That is the cheapest board I would even consider overclocking an AMD on. It is 75 bucks with rebate atm and used to be around 100. So if you are deadset on AMD, buy the 8320 at Microcenter and the board online. Gigabyte and Asus are the only decent AMD boards with good power phases, and you need them because AMD uses a metric @#^@ ton of voltage on a OC.

 

Also there is no way in hell a I5 K is bottlenecking two 7870's or even 2 r9 290x's.

 

The cheaper Intel board (MSi z87-g41) I linked will OC as well as anything. If you are DEFINITELY going to be going two big cards in the future I would grab the SLI board above it (asrock). Asrock is fine on Intel, it just sucks on AMD. Why the SLI board? Because you never know how good one GPU is going to be compared to the other and you may want to jump back and forth, and the Asrock board has all the lanes you need. The 800 series might kick butt. Pascal might kick butt. AMD might kick Nvidia's butt. Who knows. Then again if you are going SLI/Crossfire you need a PSU that can run it.

 

If not buying a combo, then a MSI z87-G45 has everything you need and is usually on sale at newegg. Everything past that is aesthetics and crap that doesn't really matter.

 

I could care less if you go Intel or AMD, but if you think you are going to need an I7 anytime soon? You are buying into BS marketing. The I5 k plays every game fast, including "8 thread games" and is faster than a 8350 under Mantle, which is what DirectX 12 performance will look like.

 

If you play MMO's and large multiplayer shooters other than BF4 like Arma and Planetside 2 (which is slower on a 8350 even with half a  year of AMD optimization for the PS4 release) or games like Rust and Day-Z? You are going to kick yourself for not going with a I5 K. 

 

If you don't play those games? You won't notice a difference between a overclock and a non overclock because you are GPU bound anyways and the 8320/50 is fine. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

...and you need a 990FX chipset board to be able to crossfire/SLI on the AMD side as well...if you are dead set on goind CFX/SLI in the future than i would look into something like this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($184.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($84.29 @ Amazon)

Total: $269.28

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-22 16:07 EDT-0400)

 

This is the cheapest intel kit that will allow you to SLI/CFX, but the CPU is locked = no OC or minimal through FSB...

And also for CFX/SLI make sure you get a good quality 750W or more PSU, this is what is needed, also plan to get some extra case fans...needed as well to deal with the extra heat...also get a good sound dampening headset to cancel all the noise that will come out of those GPU's...

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This is the cheapest kit that will support SLI/CFX fully on AMD side:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($134.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard:  ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $244.98

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-22 16:10 EDT-0400)

 

***AND THIS ASROCK BOARD IS NOT EVEN A GOOD OVERCLOCKER THAT'S WHY IT'S 109$

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THIS will allow you to OVERCLOCK and SLI/CFX:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($134.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($128.00 @ Newegg)

Total: $262.99

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-22 16:11 EDT-0400)

[Totally-A-Hero]

Im not dead set on anything im deadset on getting the best value to my dollar. So from what i can tell i can get a 8320 with this board wich is a good overclocker and SLI/CFX and

 

http://www.microcenter.com/product/366425/GA-990FXA-UD3_Socket_AM3_990FX_ATX_AMD_Motherboard    $200

 

this board with a intel i5 4670k http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=614982 for $240

[i_build_nanosuits]

Im not dead set on anything im deadset on getting the best value to my dollar. So from what i can tell i can get a 8320 with this board wich is a good overclocker and SLI/CFX and

 

http://www.microcenter.com/product/366425/GA-990FXA-UD3_Socket_AM3_990FX_ATX_AMD_Motherboard    $200

 

this board with a intel i5 4670k http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=614982 for $240

I would pick the AMD and put 40$ more on the GPU, that will give better performance in modern games, you could get an r9 280 instead of the 7870 for example...this board will take 2x r9 280 if you feel the need and will allow you to clock the CPU as high as the chip can go and within limit of your CPU cooling solution.

If you plan on playing MMO's and single-threaded old stuff like than defenetly stick with the intel CPU and get a crapier GPU you won't need an high-end card those games are totaly CPU bound and looks like crap anyway...

[Totally-A-Hero]

One problem....I already bought the 7870 ghz.It was only 100 bucks refurbed so i couldnt pass it up i might CFX it but i will prob sell and grab a high end around christmas. So at this point i guess that 8320 with that board looks like a good option right?

[i_build_nanosuits]

One problem....I already bought the 7870 ghz.It was only 100 bucks refurbed so i couldnt pass it up i might CFX it but i will prob sell and grab a high end around christmas. So at this point i guess that 8320 with that board looks like a good option right?

 

indeed, BUT, as i said the intel i5 could be better too, it all depends on what you are looking at in terms of performance...better single-threaded performance or better multi-threaded performance? like i said if you're more interested in playing PC exclusive MMO's, RPG's, strategy games...some indi games as well...those are usualy developped using OLDER game engines and they usualy use only 1 or 2 CPU cores to process thremendeous amounts of data...for that type of games the AMD CPU may be a deal breaker for some users,...where modern games (FPS, action games, racing games, sports games to some extent, simulation games...) those tend to innovate and use more ''up to date'' technology and their game engines are usualy able to use more CPU cores to process more data at a time, those games are ALWAYS GPU BOUND, for them you won't notice the difference beetween CPU's, all you need is a good GPU.

[Totally-A-Hero]

So preety much in most games (AAA titles ) i wont even notice a difference so save $40 and buy the AMD?

[deathjester]

Im not dead set on anything im deadset on getting the best value to my dollar. So from what i can tell i can get a 8320 with this board wich is a good overclocker and SLI/CFX and

 

http://www.microcenter.com/product/366425/GA-990FXA-UD3_Socket_AM3_990FX_ATX_AMD_Motherboard    $200

 

this board with a intel i5 4670k http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=614982 for $240

 

Both the expensive AMD and the cheapest Intel z87 are less than ideal on Crossfired GOOD gpu's. It is all about the lanes. If you want to run good GPU's in crossfire or SLI then get the Asrock/Intel combo.

 

If you want to run a single good card then get the Intel/MSi Z87 G41.

 

Just because a board supports Xfire etc doesn't mean it will run two good GPU's on it well. 7870's? Those would probably be ok. You would have to look up comparisons of PCI Express lanes. I am sure someone did a benchmark somewhere with 8x8 8x4 pci express 3.0 vs 2.0 etc.

 

If you want to put two good GPU's on it in the future though? Just get something like that Asrock Intel board. It has multiple PCI Express 3.0 lanes on it.

[i_build_nanosuits]

So preety much in most games (AAA titles ) i wont even notice a difference so save $40 and buy the AMD?

 

that is correct, if you aim for 60FPS the FX will give them to you all day long even at stock clock speed provided you have a good enough GPU...the 7870 will render the 60 frames on mostly medium/high-ish settings at 1080p for most modern games.

 

Now, don't ask wich of these chips will run the games on highest details for the longer period of time in the future or wich would run them better for 120FPS display or anything of that matter as it will only start the intel vs amd war.

[Totally-A-Hero]

I dont know it is all so confusing..... I think that getting the AMD is a good idea. But the intel is 40 more with not as good of mobo. I guess i will get the AMD or keep thinking about it.

[Totally-A-Hero]

Ok so it will overclock my CPU just fine and supports crossfire even if it isnt that high end CFX that guy was talking about? If so im going to buy this it is a great value and i am mainly gonna play modern titles that wil use more cores.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I dont know it is all so confusing..... I think that getting the AMD is a good idea. But the intel is 40 more with not as good of mobo. I guess i will get the AMD or keep thinking about it.

you can't really go wrong with any of the solutions...as i said the only thing that would put you in the wrong spot would be to go with AMD for single-threaded CPU intensive games...as long as you keep with normal modern games both CPU will get the job done for a very long period of time...and those games that require lots of data processing done on 1 or 2 cores are pretty much in a dying phase, they will be a thing of the past very soon...so even then the AMD would be an ''ok'' choice, but not as good as intel would be for this type of games.

 

Anyway it is said and we can assume it's true that with mantle and directx12 such powerful CPU's won't even be required anymore for gaming...so in the long run they are both winning chips.

 

last question: does the electricity where you at cost a lot or is cheap?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Ok so it will overclock my CPU just fine and supports crossfire even if it isnt that high end CFX that guy was talking about? If so im going to buy this it is a great value and i am mainly gonna play modern titles that wil use more cores.

 

This 990FX gigabyte board you where looking at has 2 pciexpress slots 2.0 running at 16X each so it will run 2 high-end GPU's (r9 290x or GTX 780ti) to max capacity there's no problem there...