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Idk i wanna OC and i think the 8320 OC will do just fine. i have a week untill i have to decide and in that time maybe they will go on sale or something but for now i feel that the 8320 is fine for me.

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you dont have to ''worry if a game will run well'' theres litteraly 3 games that wont run well with FX and they are guild wars2, elder scroll online and planetside2, and they wont ''run well'' on intel either...they are bad games...everything else runs just as well, you don't play these? you're fine...

 

And Day-Z, and Rust, and Rome Total War, and World of Warcraft and Wild Star, and SWTOR and Arma, and indie games that come out that are optimized for crap (which they often are) and all upcoming indie games/games that will have a ton of players onscreen. 

 

Yup all those games "are bad games". The only good game in the world is BF4, which has horrible netcode and was broken for months and isn't even widely played on the PC anymore, and it is a "good game" because a 8350 can almost catch an I5 under AMD Mantle on a GPU you didn't buy because you got an Nvidia GPU with a AMD CPU. So you can scratch BF4 off the list in 64 player as well.

 

This tech news brought to you buy a claimed Ubisoft game developer who designs levels, but whose name he gave is a audio developer who teaches piano. 

 

ALL THAT MATTERS IS BATTLEFIELD 4. Gonna make that my new signature. So many BF4 players on PC man. Look at those numbers.

 

http://www.xfire.com/games/bf4

 

Only 20 "bad games" ahead of it that probably spent 1/1000 of their marketing.

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HOLLY *@^# WHO CARES????? Is there something wrong with the CPU i chose?

No, there is not.  But based on all of your posts over the past month, you want the best performance for the lowest possible price without having to worry about any hiccups.  You live near a Microcenter, heck you can even use price match on Staples.com to get the i5 sent to you for $189.  Call up your nearest Microcenter and ask if they still have the bundle of i5-4670k + MSI G41-PC for $245.  There is nothing wrong with that motherboard and it will crossfire just fine.

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No, there is not.  But based on all of your posts over the past month, you want the best performance for the lowest possible price without having to worry about any hiccups.  You live near a Microcenter, heck you can even use price match on Staples.com to get the i5 sent to you for $189.  Call up your nearest Microcenter and ask if they still have the bundle of i5-4670k + MSI G41-PC for $245.  There is nothing wrong with that motherboard and it will crossfire just fine.

Will it overclock?

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Will it overclock?

of course it will overclock.  Any Z87 motherboard will overclock so long as you have an unlocked "k" processor.

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i5-4670k + MSI Z87-G41 = $245, at least that is what it cost just a few days ago.  I am sure they will still honor that deal, just because it isn't advertised on their website, doesn't mean it is not still going on.  They are advertising the Z97s because that is what is new, doesn't mean Z87 is off the table.

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 Just called them and they told me that the i5 4670k cost $209 in store plus $30 off any motherboard when i buy a CPU :) but $209 still costs a lot more than $129 but my dad wants to do research wich means i have to get intel the fanboyism is strong in him.....

 

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 Just called them and they told me that the i5 4670k cost $209 in store plus $30 off any motherboard when i buy a CPU :) but $209 still costs a lot more than $129 but my dad wants to do research wich means i have to get intel the fanboyism is strong in him.....

 

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$209 + $55 is still a good price.  I'm shocked that they changed the price to $209....

 

Your father is a smart man, and there is no fanboyism here, if AMD was better, I would recommend you AMD.  I am a very practical person, and I rely on facts.  The fact of the matter is that FX uses a 10 year old architecture and doesn't play all games the way a processor bought in 2014 should.

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I rely on facts too.Its not that i dont want a a intel because trust me i do.But when your 14 and on a budget you have to sacrifice.If my dad and his IT friends decide that intel is the better option than he can pay the difference because i cant afford it.

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hahahahaha! Fred is a good friend of mine though.

 

you seen this ?

http://gearnuke.com/watch-dogs-will-run-dual-core-cpus-less-6gb-ram/

 

Jonahatin Morin, the creative director of Ubisoft’s Watch Dogs has just revealed some information about the minimum requirements for the game. According to his official twitter , Watch Dogs will not run on dual-core CPUs. That filters out almost half the processors (including the Intel’s “i3″  series). He also said that any CPU that scores 9,000-10,000 on Intel’s PassMark would be able to run the game on Ultra and scores of 7,000 and higher would be capable to run the game on Medium-High settings

 

My passmark CPU score is 9680 @4.6ghz :P

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html

Thats bullshit. Watchdogs is lightthreaded & Intel would perform there much better.

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Can you show CPU load per core please?
Also can you show the game running not in an indoor environment with only two guards? perhaps a walk outside with cars and lots of character interacting along with CPU load per core would help us more...

you've pirated the game? that's nice!

Give us something like this:

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Afterbuner will allow you to show CPU core load.

Also are you really getting 50FPS with your GTX780 SLI and i7-3930K man? gosh i hope the retail version run's better than this...you're indoor doing nothing on top of that...we are all screwed!

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Can you show CPU load per core please?

It's useless

 

 

Also can you show the game running not in an indoor environment with only two guards? perhaps a walk outside with cars and lots of character interacting along with CPU load per core would help us more...

Had to be done inside, driving across the world it keeps loading data from the hard drive for some stupid reasons killing my performance complety. 

 

 

Also are you really getting 50FPS with your GTX780 SLI and i7-3930K man? gosh i hope the retail version run's better than this...you're indoor doing nothing on top of that...we are all screwed!

Yes. I haven't tried running it with one card just to see what the SLI scaling is like. Maybe I get lets say 50 fps with one card and 70 fps with 2 :P It's just mainly CPU bound imo, barely driving or moving I'm not having 99% on each gpu >.>

It's just another stupid game thats crappy multithreaded and you don't need anything better than a quadcore for it

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It's useless

 

 

Had to be done inside, driving across the world it keeps loading data from the hard drive for some stupid reasons killing my performance complety. 

 

 

Yes. I haven't tried running it with one card just to see what the SLI scaling is like. Maybe I get lets say 50 fps with one card and 70 fps with 2 :P It's just mainly CPU bound imo, barely driving or moving I'm not having 99% on each gpu >.>

It's just another stupid game thats crappy multithreaded and you don't need anything better than a quadcore for it

 

this is all typical results for a cracked pirate copy of a game, i ran crysis 3 pirated auto-installed once on my PC and i was getting like 30FPS maxed out and then i bought the game and the FPS boosted to 50 - 60FPS...i'm sure the retail up to date version will run much better than this...

 

AND Load on each core on a walk on the sidewalk in town would really be helpful to me even if you think it's useless my father is building a new PC for that game and i would REALLY love to see what it looks like...and i can't afford to download the pirate version and then not be able to install or have optimum performance when the retail version hits the shelfs...so if possible find a sidewalk with a lot of person interactng between each other and maybe fire a gun or something along those lines in your next video ok! :P

 

we're on the fence between core i5-4460, FX-6300 OC and FX-8320 OC...seeing CPu usage on this would really help...if you could clock your CPU to 3.4ghz and have it running on 4 core with no HT i would love to see how this does...thanks !

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You're better off dropping crossfire to save money. Before you'd plan to add a 2nd you wouldn't see the point of it anymore because we would have 20nm cards with 6K cuda cores for 350$ who knows. Also the 8320/8350 is a retarded choice, it only outperforms the 6300 in one game and nothing more. Even if a game will ever take advantage of more all of its cores, they are going to be gpu bound and it would be again the same scenario like a 6300=8350 with a single r9 290 in crysis 3. Console ported games are never heavy multiplayer games and they always have been gpu bound, massive multiplayer games always have been cpu bound and PC exclusive. It's not even going to be guaranteed console ports will take advantage of them. The price of a 8320 over the 6300 would never ever be justified, it's a waste of money and it's outdated.

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Why would you pay 150-200$ if you can get a used phenom x6 for 20$? That minor 10-15% IPC improvement with a nice sexy overpriced pricetag doesnt make sense in 2014. Nehalems from 2008 still have more IPC than piledriver and the i7's of them go for 50$. Instead of paying 150$ for a CPU thats nearly 8 years old in IPC, get a modern CPU. What about getting a used 4670k? 

 

 

i do not know, but doesn't 1440p result in a gpu bound situation? and if so how can it result in 23% dif. between an 4670k and the 8350?

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i do not know, but doesn't 1440p result in a gpu bound situation? and if so how can it result in 23% dif. between an 4670k and the 8350?

it can't, CPU benchmarks have to be run at much lower resolution to see a difference between CPU's and BF4 is a well threaded games it run just as good on the FX 8 core than it does on a core i5-4670, it's BS...

 

this is just has valid as a benchmark has this one i found on a very trusty website:

 

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@Faa please post CPU load per core or tell me what it looks like on max details with some action going on on the screen !!! OUTSIDE :P

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this is all typical results for a cracked pirate copy of a game, i ran crysis 3 pirated auto-installed once on my PC and i was getting like 30FPS maxed out and then i bought the game and the FPS boosted to 50 - 60FPS...i'm sure the retail up to date version will run much better than this...

 

AND Load on each core on a walk on the sidewalk in town would really be helpful to me even if you think it's useless my father is building a new PC for that game and i would REALLY love to see what it looks like...and i can't afford to download the pirate version and then not be able to install or have optimum performance when the retail version hits the shelfs...so if possible find a sidewalk with a lot of person interactng between each other and maybe fire a gun or something along those lines in your next video ok! :P

 

we're on the fence between core i5-4460, FX-6300 OC and FX-8320 OC...seeing CPu usage on this would really help...if you could clock your CPU to 3.4ghz and have it running on 4 core with no HT i would love to see how this does...thanks !

Will do but game doesnt take advantage of 8 cores anyways, 6 definitely not. Better off with a i5 and a 280x instead of a 770

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Will do but game doesnt take advantage of 8 cores anyways, 6 definitely not. Better off with a i5 and a 280x instead of a 770

really? yeah i've heard it need 3GB of VRAM for ultra 1080p...

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This guy seems to tell another story though : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/155151-watch-dogs-will-not-run-on-dual-core-cpus/page-3

 

he run the game on the 4770: and BUT says it DOES take good use of hyperthreading and multicore CPU's...

 

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he also tend to confirm the 6GB of RAM and 3GB of VRAM :

 

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really? yeah i've heard it need 3GB of VRAM for ultra 1080p...

Swapping works awful now. At max settings I'm either running out of vram or its loading data from the drive. I literally dip to 1 fps and all the way back up to 50-60 fps. You have settings like 1 2 3 - 1 is 1024MB 2 is 2048 and 3 is 3GB. And btw pirated versions don't suck, theyre not any different than release ones in the beginning. They usually take their time to update it and most games are cpu bound when theyre released, same thing with battlefield 4 beta - every cpu bottlenecked except the 3930K. You're going to be mainly GPU bound with a single card in watch dogs anyways.

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Swapping works awful now. At max settings I'm either running out of vram or its loading data from the drive. I literally dip to 1 fps and all the way back up to 50-60 fps. You have settings like 1 2 3 - 1 is 1024MB 2 is 2048 and 3 is 3GB. And btw pirated versions don't suck, theyre not any different than release ones in the beginning. They usually take their time to update it and most games are cpu bound when theyre released, same thing with battlefield 4 beta - every cpu bottlenecked except the 3930K. You're going to be mainly GPU bound with a single card in watch dogs anyways.

sounds good...i will get him a r9 280X and FX-8320 and OC it for i'm i believe...the core i5-4460 would cost him too much i would have to cut down on the GPU...and big 240GB SSd to install windows and watch dog on it..

so there's really no way to get solid 60FPS on ultra for the GTX 780 as of now with current drivers and pre-release cracked copy?

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Forget it Faa i found this user he use a core i7-4930K here is the CPU load, there's no way this game will run maxed out on an FX 8 core CPU or a core i5-4670K...the CPu is insane...but he also use the cracked with supposedly a mining trojan software in it probably the retail version will see somewhat lower CPU usage, let's hope it does...

http://imgur.com/a/2y2Rc

it's really beautiful though :(

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