Overclocking compatibale

[i_build_nanosuits]

Alright !

Wich PSU are you going with man?

[Totally-A-Hero]

Raidmax.

[Totally-A-Hero]

Lol im kidding im getting the CX750M its Semi modular!

[deathjester]

basicaly, short answer ok, don't want to discuss all that with you, all you do is put words in my mouths, but :

 

Core i7 MULTI-THREADED performance > FX-83xx MULTI-THREADED performance > Core i5 MULTI-THREADED performance

 

Future GAMES = MULTI-THREADED GAMES so Core i7  > FX-83xx  > core i5 for future games whether you like it or not.

 

Post proof or go away. Show BF4 AMD Mantle benchmarks where the I5 is below a 8350. Ask AMD to benchmark the I5 vs the 8350 on a r9 290 or two if they want. They won't. Want to know why? Because it has already been benchmarked by reputable benchmarking sites. The I5 is faster before and after in the most cherry picked game you can use for future promises.

 

BF4 is a "multithreaded game" and AMD Mantle is basically what we are going to have 2 years from now in Direct X 12 (on a few titles).

 

I have showed you the AMD 8350 running an MMO in the Crysis 3 engine like garbage, just like it runs all MMO's like garbage. I have showed you Crysis 3 with lower low FPS on a 8350 then a stock I5 Ivy Bridge clocked MUCH lower from a website that isn't garbage in Russia. 

 

I have posted AMD Mantle benchmarks where the AMD 8350 is slower than the I5 in BF4. Show me where AMD has ever claimed that an I5 K is slower than a 8350 in Mantle. You think if it was faster they wouldn't be screaming it at the top of their lungs? So in what way is the 8350 going to get magically faster than the I5 in the future? You are claiming something that even AMD won't claim. Do you have any idea how stupid that is? AMD could have sold a boat load of chips comparing the I5 to a 8350. They refuse to do so.

 

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/bf4-mantle-live/

[i_build_nanosuits]

@deathjester

BF4 IS NOT A NEXT GEN GAME, NEITHER IS CRYSIS 3, those games only run 3 heavy threads along with a couple of ''trash threads''...they can ''take advantage'' of more cores but they are not REAL next gen games yet!!! THIS IS WHY they run just as well on a quadcore 4 thread CPU than on the FX 8 core ! WATCH DOGS is not a ''Real'' next gen title EITHER, the proof: PS3 and XB360 version AVAILABLE !!!! Real next gen titles will not run on PS3 or XB360!!! gosh you don't want to hear anything isnt it?

[Totally-A-Hero]

[i_build_nanosuits]

Lol im kidding im getting the CX750M its Semi modular!

i would advise you to go with something else, the CX430 builder may be a good recommendation for it's low price and for people on budget or that build small form factor PC's the fact it is a 40$ modular PSU is awesome...but it still all Chinese made capacitors and cheap parts inside...if you want to get something as high as 750W out of this CX design you are asking for troubles...here is what i would suggest , still modular, but much better quality and WILL output the 750W FOR REAL:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20750xr

or even better, this:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-capstone750m

does cost a little more but there's a reason for that : BETTER QUALITY

[Totally-A-Hero]

i would advise you to go with something else, the CX430 builder may be a good recommendation for it's low price and for people on budget that build small form factor PC's the fact it is a 40$ modular PSU is awesome...but it still all Chinese made capacitors and cheap parts inside...if you want to get something as high as 750W out of this CX design you are asking for troubles...here is what i would suggest , still modular, but much better quality and WILL output the 750W FOR REAL:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20750xr

does cost a little more but there's a reason for that : BETTER QUALITY

Hmmm ok i guess it does cost ALOT more and i havent really seen any bad reveiws on the Corsair PSU so im gonna do some more research

[i_build_nanosuits]

Hmmm ok i guess it does cost ALOT more and i havent really seen any bad reveiws on the Corsair PSU so im gonna do some more research

 

The corsair CX is not Total trash or anything like that, it's just very inferior quality wise and i wouldn't run SLI/CFX on that PSU...to pick a CX600W for a single GPU budget gaming rig build, yes...pick a CX430 for a small budget build, yes again...but CX750W for heavy gaming dual GPU pc? no...

 

If previous suggestions cost too much,  here:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120pb0750kr

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg750m

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750snlb9

 

the XFX is non modular, but it's the best among the 3.

[Totally-A-Hero]

Ok because I am gonna to CFX/SLI in future i dont know when it could be soon wiht the 7870 or latter with a 290 or 780.

[i_build_nanosuits]

you know, i'm giving advice but i run my system on the WORST possible PSU available pretty much !! LOL

i paid 15$ for the thing on kijiji...so you do what you want really...most of them have failsafe features nowadays and if they do fail on you they most likely won't take any components with them...get the CX if it fits your budget better it's alright, if someday you have enough money to run multi GPU'S GTX 780 or r9 290 THEN i would sell the CX and get something better, until then it's probably fine...is it the used unit that you talked me about yesterday that you are getting?

[Totally-A-Hero]

you know, i'm giving advice but i run my system on the WORST possible PSU available pretty much !! LOL

i paid 15$ for the thing on kijiji...so you do what you want really...most of them have failsafe features nowadays and if they do fail on you they most likely won't take any components with them...get the CX if it fits your budget better it's alright, if someday you have enough money to run multi GPU'S GTX 780 or r9 290 THEN i would sell the CX and get something better, until then it's probably fine...is it the used unit that you talked me about yesterday that you are getting?

No for $15 more i can get the Same PSU new i did however get the ram i looked up reviews and it doesent seem that bad also im getting the 212 from him.

[i_build_nanosuits]

No for $15 more i can get the Same PSU new i did however get the ram i looked up reviews and it doesent seem that bad also im getting the 212 from him.

 

that's great, that way you have the warranty with the PSU...this is the most important so you won't loose your money!..and ram is very cheap these days so if you have trouble with it just trow it away!

[Totally-A-Hero]

that's great, that way you have the warranty with the PSU...this is the most important so you won't loose your money!..and ram is very cheap these days so if you have trouble with it just trow it away!

I know it costs $20 more for dual channel ram so i figured might as well save the money and if it works pick up another stick and dual channel that!

[deathjester]

@deathjester

BF4 IS NOT A NEXT GEN GAME, NEITHER IS CRYSIS 3, those games only run 3 heavy threads along with a couple of ''trash threads''...they can ''take advantage'' of more cores but they are not REAL next gen games yet!!! THIS IS WHY they run just as well on a quadcore 4 thread CPU than on the FX 8 core ! WATCH DOGS is not a ''Real'' next gen title EITHER, the proof: PS3 and XB360 version AVAILABLE !!!! Real next gen titles will not run on PS3 or XB360!!! gosh you don't want to hear anything isnt it?

 

So wait. Now BF4 isn't "next gen" when it is the most optimized game in the world and was an AMD sponsored title where they gave EA/DICE a BOATLOAD of money to optimize the game for their CPU's? How the hell do you think BF4 is running on a 6 cores on a 1.6 ghz chip on the PS4. An API. Same as we have with Mantle. Hell Mantle is using the exact same GCN GPU architecture as the next gen consoles.

 

Could you name me ONE "next gen" game where a 8350 is faster than a Intel I5? I will be waiting. Cus every "next gen" benchmark on every game shows an I5 winning (and often an Ivy Bridge I3) and that with perfect optimization on Mantle and the frostbite engine all you can get is close to an I5 on a 8350 and that you need Mantle to do it.

 

BTW I love how you sold that Watch Dog's needed a 8 core/thread CPU and promoted the hell out of AMD chips for it and now it isn't "next gen" either, when it is on a brand new game engine. 

 

Let me know when the first "next gen" game comes out. Since it obviously isn't using the Frostbite engine (brand new) or the Unreal 4 engine, or Ubisoft's new engine, or an IDtech engine, and not Carbine's new engine and now the Crysis 3 engine isn't good enough. It is a magical game engine from a far off land that makes AMD CPU's uber in games.

 

Dude you are full of laughs today. Out of the blue you claim to have worked in game development, which might be the funniest claim I have seen on this forum. Hey did you train with St. Pierre up in Montreal? LOL. 

 

Whatever man. You can explain to these people why their "next gen games" run better on an I3 then the AMD you sold them, while telling them that the I5 is outdated and will suck in the future based on nothing.

 

They deserve to be suckered in. I would have stopped listening when you claimed to work for Ubisoft, out of the blue, while having your arguments shot down.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I know it costs $20 more for dual channel ram so i figured might as well save the money and if it works pick up another stick and dual channel that!

dual channel won't improve performance much, for gaming it has NO impact what so ever...1333mhz single channel ram is good enough for gaming.

[i_build_nanosuits]

@deathjester

 

you are free to go buddy...i won't even read your stupid posts anymore.

Believe what you want, live in your world like you intend to, make your way through it as you are feeling it, watch dogs is coming out in 4 days, it will run MUCH better on the FX then the core i3 that's for sure, and NO it's not even a TRUE next gen game yet THERE IS EVEN A WII U VERSION AVAILABLE!!!! NOW COME ON!

[Totally-A-Hero]

@deathjester

 

you are free to go buddy...i won't even read your stupid posts anymore.

Its 1600 so that is good.

[Totally-A-Hero]

@deathjester congrats you are the first person ive ever seen get so mad over discussing CPU's.

[deathjester]

@deathjester

 

you are free to go buddy...i won't even read your stupid posts anymore.

 

What "claims". I backed up everything I said and you have now backtracked from promoting that Watch Dog's will run better on a 8350 than an I5. You now claim it wasn't next gen and that BF4 isn't next gen, and that all next gen games aren't next gen. In fact you are claiming "next gen" doesn't even exist (my mind is officially blown).

 

How about you back up the claim that you work at Ubisoft. I will be expecting that proof along with a picture of you and St. Pierre sparring in the octagon. 

 

You have been here for a month selling AMD products hardcore and today you just drop that you work at Ubisoft? Dude you are a riot. Please stick around man! Have any stories about Nam?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Its 1600 so that is good.

yes that is good, look at this, Linus proved that even DDR2 800MHZ would be enough for maximum gaming performance, everything else is icing on the cake, it won't give you even 1 extra FPS:

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

What "claims". I backed up everything I said and you have now backtracked from promoting that Watch Dog's will run better on a 8350 than an I5. You now claim it wasn't next gen and that BF4 isn't next gen, and that all next gen games aren't next gen. In fact you are claiming "next gen" doesn't even exist (my mind is officially blown).

 

How about you back up the claim that you work at Ubisoft. I will be expecting that proof along with a picture of you and St. Pierre sparring in the octagon. 

 

You have been here for a month selling AMD products hardcore and today you just drop that you work at Ubisoft? Dude you are a riot. Please stick around man! Have any stories about Nam?

nobody olds what the future will be, so please just stop and we will see ok, we both agree that the FX plays any modern games at great framerates and that is all what matters for now...

For my part i can tell you this: The REAL next gen AAA titles will come out on PS4/XBone and PC...NO PS3,XB360 or wii U ''special edition''...those will hit the market probably only next year...we will see THEN who was right ok, until then, breath out you are about to develop a cancer or something man for a stupid CPU that is not even that important for gaming...ok? good...

[Totally-A-Hero]

yes that is good, look at this, Linus proved that even DDR2 800MHZ would be enough for maximum gaming performance, everything else is icing on the cake, it won't give you even 1 extra FPS:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4

Ok that is good to know to know.

[deathjester]

@deathjester congrats you are the first person ive ever seen get so mad over discussing CPU's.

 

If you believe THAT guy works at Ubisoft? I have some scrap metal to sell you in Paris. The guy watched a LTT video/Tek Syndicate video, built his first computer, thinks it is awesome due to one game, has zero understanding of code, game engines or anything tech related and promotes AMD as the ultimate gaming CPU with everyone laughing at many of his claims and statements. He has done complete 180's on everything he has said in previous weeks in this thread.

 

He also thinks all 8320's clock extremely high on a non Sabretooth or 990fx board on air (LOL). Good luck matching his clock. He got lucky and you may be stuck at near stock 8350 speeds on an OC, in which case your single core performance is laughable and a I3 will outperform your machine in most "next gen" games out there.

 

But hey. You go ahead and buy an AMD when you have a local Microcenter near you. You could buy this chip, a cheap H81 board for 50 bucks and get better performance in games on a stock cooler, with a r9 280 which have been as low as 200 bucks with a promo code at newegg this week. Your money though and if you want to believe his fairy tales of the future? You go right ahead. 

 

140 bucks and way better then a 8350 in games.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/413255/Intel_Core_i5-4570_32GHz_Boxed_Processor?rf=Search+Results+Top+%3E+Feature+2+%3E+Processors+Intel%2fAMD+-+Top+2

 

When you don't get the performance you were expecting in a new game, and when you don't get near the clock (pretty damn good chance of happening), make sure to come back here and show him some love. You can be like all the other people who bought 8350's and ask what Intel/MB they should upgrade to, since they were overpromised/sold on performance and the optimization he seeks is years away and the 8350 will NOT be faster than the I5 inside a game.

[i_build_nanosuits]

ok you have it out of your chest now, do you FEEL BETTER?

the FX-8320 cost him 40$ less than the core i5 and comes with a much better 990FX board at that price, that thing will play all the games he want on highest details provided he pair it with a good GPU, he is on a budget and cant really afford the core i5 chip and he do realise that the core i3 dual-core is not an option and EVEN this would cost him more than the FX OKAY?!?! DO YOU GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD? now MOVE ON !!!

 

BTW i'm playing diablo3 ATM and there's like 52 demons and undeads on the screen at the same time and i still get well over 120FPS...how is that even possible ?!