Overclocking compatibale

[Totally-A-Hero]

Actually the i-5 deal i was looking at went up $100 becuase of the z97 boards they are now bundling so AMD is my only choice... also i dont know if he worked at ubisoft and you dont know if he did. My 8320 will perform just fine for what i need to do so im not gonna complain of course a i5 and z97 would be awesome but at the end of the day it is my decsion and budget. SO SCREW OFF 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Actually the i-5 deal i was looking at went up $100 becuase of the z97 boards they are now bundling so AMD is my only choice... also i dont know if he worked at ubisoft and you dont know if he did. My 8320 will perform just fine for what i need to do so im not gonna complain of course a i5 and z97 would be awesome but at the end of the day it is my decsion and budget. SO SCREW OFF 

well said!

 

here, 1:23 Frederic Tardif this is me

 

and BTW i couldnt care less if you believe me or not, all i did pretty much for ubisoft was placing freaking static meshes in the worlds 60 hrs a week under full unleashed pressure for 15$/hrs it was really not a fun job to do i did it for prince of persia and assassins 2 as well...i then decided to continue studying at night an completed a degree and and now i'm a geomatician i work on autocad and ARCgis and MAPinfo all day long for 29$/hrs and i have no pressure i can take time to be in such great forums and share some stuff...

[deathjester]

well said!

 

here, 1:23 Frederic Tardif this is me

 

Awesome man. This is Casey Hudson. Sorry about the ME 3 ending. You can blame Mac Walters for that.

 

http://ca.linkedin.com/in/frederictardif

 

BTW? You picked an AUDIO engineer and claimed to work in level design. Thanks for the laughs. Good day sir. 

[Totally-A-Hero]

in b4 he says its fake

[Totally-A-Hero]

Ahh he beat me!

[i_build_nanosuits]

hahahahaha! Fred is a good friend of mine though.

 

you seen this ?

http://gearnuke.com/watch-dogs-will-run-dual-core-cpus-less-6gb-ram/

 

Jonahatin Morin, the creative director of Ubisoft’s Watch Dogs has just revealed some information about the minimum requirements for the game. According to his official twitter , Watch Dogs will not run on dual-core CPUs. That filters out almost half the processors (including the Intel’s “i3″  series). He also said that any CPU that scores 9,000-10,000 on Intel’s PassMark would be able to run the game on Ultra and scores of 7,000 and higher would be capable to run the game on Medium-High settings

 

My passmark CPU score is 9680 @4.6ghz

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html

[Faa]

Lol im kidding im getting the CX750M its Semi modular!

I wouldn't buy that junk psu tbh. You can get much better quality & quieter psu's for that price.

[Totally-A-Hero]

I wouldn't buy that junk psu tbh. You can get much better quality & quieter psu's for that price.

Ya the evga semi modular is 5 dollars more so i put that in my cart instead.

[Faa]

Ya the evga semi modular is 5 dollars more so i put that in my cart instead.

Nex750G I guess? Bad psu as well.

Also didnt you buy your i5?

[Totally-A-Hero]

Nex750G I guess? Bad psu as well.

Also didnt you buy your i5?

Was gonna buy it next week and micro did me dirty! they changed the deals to z97 boards and upped the price $80!

[Faceman]

@Totally-A-Hero

 

You should get an i5-4670k + Z87 motherboard pick up the i5 for $189 and the MSI Z87-G41 for $75.  It wont be $245 like before, but you will be much happier with the results.  Who knows, they might still have the i5 + Z87 in-store for $245, just not advertised online anymore.  If you want longevity and performance, cough up $40 extra instead of having to pay a full $300 at a later date because AMD isn't what you expected.

 

I have that nanosuits guy on ignore but I can still see when other people quote him.  He has flip flopped on his opinions and claims so many times that it is laughable.  He has retracted his statements and his word means nothing.  We are trying to help you because you are new to this.  Go with Intel, especially if you plan to Crossfire, go with Intel.

 

The CX750M will be perfectly fine for crossfire, and it is at a good price right now.

[Faa]

Was gonna buy it next week and micro did me dirty! they changed the deals to z97 boards and upped the price $80!

You're better off dropping crossfire to save money. Before you'd plan to add a 2nd you wouldn't see the point of it anymore because we would have 20nm cards with 6K cuda cores for 350$ who knows. Also the 8320/8350 is a retarded choice, it only outperforms the 6300 in one game and nothing more. Even if a game will ever take advantage of more all of its cores, they are going to be gpu bound and it would be again the same scenario like a 6300=8350 with a single r9 290 in crysis 3. Console ported games are never heavy multiplayer games and they always have been gpu bound, massive multiplayer games always have been cpu bound and PC exclusive. It's not even going to be guaranteed console ports will take advantage of them. The price of a 8320 over the 6300 would never ever be justified, it's a waste of money and it's outdated.

Why would you pay 150-200$ if you can get a used phenom x6 for 20$? That minor 10-15% IPC improvement with a nice sexy overpriced pricetag doesnt make sense in 2014. Nehalems from 2008 still have more IPC than piledriver and the i7's of them go for 50$. Instead of paying 150$ for a CPU thats nearly 8 years old in IPC, get a modern CPU. What about getting a used 4670k? 

[deathjester]

hahahahaha! Fred is a good friend of mine though.

 

you seen this ?

http://gearnuke.com/watch-dogs-will-run-dual-core-cpus-less-6gb-ram/

 

Jonahatin Morin, the creative director of Ubisoft’s Watch Dogs has just revealed some information about the minimum requirements for the game. According to his official twitter , Watch Dogs will not run on dual-core CPUs. That filters out almost half the processors (including the Intel’s “i3″  series). He also said that any CPU that scores 9,000-10,000 on Intel’s PassMark would be able to run the game on Ultra and scores of 7,000 and higher would be capable to run the game on Medium-High settings

 

My passmark CPU score is 9680 @4.6ghz

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html

 

Too funny. The game was pirated already. It has been confirmed by people on reloaded's facebook to run fine on I3's. (Ubisoft are talking about Duo Core's not a hyperthreaded I3 and this is all marketing for the consoles) and people have OLD I5's (Nehalem) with screenshots over 60 FPS in the LTT news section already from other countries and are over 100 on I5 K's.

 

BS advertising from console developers that claimed you needed a I7/8350 for "next gen gaming" in the last few months.

 

Thief? I3 Ivy beats a 8350. So much for that cpu recommendation. Put that down as an outright lie from the developer to push console sales.

Wolfenstein New:Order? I5 is same as an I7 or a hexa. Top chip. Another lie from a different developer.

Watch Dog's. RIP Ubisoft BS. You were used by people to promote AMD cpu's far too long, and used by shady people that lie about their occupation to dishonestly get people to abandon their i5 builds where they would have had more FPS and go with an inferior gaming chip.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/156136-watch-dogs-pc-leaked-and-cracked-available-now-in-your-popular-torrent-sites/page-4

 

So what game is next? Sure isn't Planetside 2. We already have that and AMD is mediocre even after optimization. More Frostbite games where the I5 is faster even in Mantle? I know! Witcher 3 man. You can sell BS about Witcher 3. Is that game not "next gen" either?

[Totally-A-Hero]

I wanted the i5 but this is a budget build and i see no advantage to spend the extra money for the i5. They both perform similar and i dont think that $60 is worth it. I watched linus's video on the 8350 vs 3570k and the i5 barely beat it adn the 8350 beat it in Bf3. Linus also says that the 8350 wil be good for next gen games becasue of 8 cores. Eventually when i get a job in a year (not old enoguh yet) i will get a i7 as well as a new high end GPU but right now this is what im working with.Im happy with my choice and can not wait to get building.Oh and apparently both sockets are dying so when i upgrade it dosent matter i have to buy a new mobo anyway.

[Totally-A-Hero]

You're better off dropping crossfire to save money. Before you'd plan to add a 2nd you wouldn't see the point of it anymore because we would have 20nm cards with 6K cuda cores for 350$ who knows. Also the 8320/8350 is a retarded choice, it only outperforms the 6300 in one game and nothing more. Even if a game will ever take advantage of more all of its cores, they are going to be gpu bound and it would be again the same scenario like a 6300=8350 with a single r9 290 in crysis 3. Console ported games are never heavy multiplayer games and they always have been gpu bound, massive multiplayer games always have been cpu bound and PC exclusive. It's not even going to be guaranteed console ports will take advantage of them. The price of a 8320 over the 6300 would never ever be justified, it's a waste of money and it's outdated.

Why would you pay 150-200$ if you can get a used phenom x6 for 20$? That minor 10-15% IPC improvement with a nice sexy overpriced pricetag doesnt make sense in 2014. Nehalems from 2008 still have more IPC than piledriver and the i7's of them go for 50$. Instead of paying 150$ for a CPU thats nearly 8 years old in IPC, get a modern CPU. What about getting a used 4670k? 

Why is this chart 1440p ?

[deathjester]

Why is this chart 1440p ?

Because a r9 290 is a 1440p GPU and 2 of them can near or run 4k in a lot of games. They are a hell of a deal right now at like 380-400.

 

While AMD CPU's are just straight up inferior to Intel for gaming, the AMD GPU's are great and their price/performance is crazy good right now. MSI R9 280 for 199 bucks with promo at newegg is just silly. That gpu will come close to a GTX 770 at stock for 130 bucks less. GTX 770/280 are more of a ultra 1080p card.

[Faa]

Why is this chart 1440p ?

 

Why not?

 

I wanted the i5 but this is a budget build and i see no advantage to spend the extra money for the i5. They both perform similar and i dont think that $60 is worth it. I watched linus's video on the 8350 vs 3570k and the i5 barely beat it adn the 8350 beat it in Bf3. Linus also says that the 8350 wil be good for next gen games becasue of 8 cores. Eventually when i get a job in a year (not old enoguh yet) i will get a i7 as well as a new high end GPU but right now this is what im working with.Im happy with my choice and can not wait to get building.Oh and apparently both sockets are dying so when i upgrade it dosent matter i have to buy a new mobo anyway.

Like I said if you're going for the 8320, you're literally wasting 50$. You're better off with a 6300, in cpu bound games it will even do better than a 8320 mainly because of its better OC potential, less strict vrm requirements, easier to cool & maintain silence and so on.

What about buying a used 4670k? overclock.net has a marketplace, you might see 3570k's instead for 100$

[Totally-A-Hero]

No i dont want used.I havent considered the fx 6300 i dont know how it performs or anything about it.

[deathjester]

No i dont want used.I havent considered the fx 6300 i dont know how it performs or anything about it.

 

6300 fx is going to perform just as well in single player games/ports and the same as the 8350 in MMO's, Day-Z as well. People have already said it runs fine on Watch Dog's. Like Faa says all that matters is clock/single core on all these ports up to like 4 cores and the FX 6300 has 6. The next gen consoles use 6 in games, which is what makes the fake game producers comments so darn silly.

 

Both chips are going to run LARGE multiplayer games like arse compared to an Intel because of single core performance. Seriously I would wait a couple weeks with a Microcenter close by and new Intel's coming out. Expect one of the following to happen. A major deal on the older I5 and a motherboard combo (I5' Ks go to 150 bucks at Christmas) to clear stock, or the older non K I5's which are still way faster than an AMD in the games AMD struggles in will be dirt cheap. The 8320 might very well hit 99.99 again with deals on AMD motherboards because AMD is going to be even more behind. The 6300FX might hit dirt cheap levels. The 6300 scores lower than a 8350 in games cus the clock speed is different. Not because it is inferior clock for clock in most games.

 

Microcenter is simply going to have deals soon and the next deals after that will be black friday. If you are absolutely wanting to get best bang for your buck? Sign up for their newsletter/advertisements and keep a watch as soon as the new Intel's hit. AMD dropped their r9 280 to dirt cheap prices and they will prob do the same with their cpu's.

 

I understand that you are on a budget, but you also live near a Microcenter. Wait a little bit man. New chips are coming, old chips are doing down and AMD will most likely cut prices.

[i_build_nanosuits]

No i dont want used.I havent considered the fx 6300 i dont know how it performs or anything about it.

it performs the same as the FX-8320 but missing a module (2 cores), if you won't stream or don't do anything other than gaming it can be just as good for now, in the future? who knows...probably just as good...it can indeed be a good option but in general it cost only about 20$ less than the FX-8320...

[Totally-A-Hero]

Well the micro center is 2 hours away from me and i am going down there next weekend for something else and fugured iwould just pick it up then.It will literally cost me $30 in gas to drive there an extra time.

[Totally-A-Hero]

Hey pentiums are 5 bucks! 

[Totally-A-Hero]

I just looked on Micro centers website and i5's arent available outside of the bundle for some reason. Im baffled.

 

EDIT:neither are 4770k

 

Edit:price on 8320 and 8350 went up 10 bucks.

[Faceman]

@Totally-A-Hero  The i5-3570k is a 3rd Gen Intel, the i5-4670k is a 4th gen, newer = better.  The FX architecture is almost a decade old.  Going with AMD you aren't going to get unplayable results, but if you want true all-around performance and not have to worry if this game or that game wont run well, go with Intel.  You should get the FX6300 though because it will perform the same as the 8320, and it a better "match" for the GPU that you already purchased.  Also, you are willing to buy a used GPU, but not a used CPU?

 

What you can do is, go to Staples.com and use the price match feature to get the i5-4670k for $189.  Or don't get an unlocked processor.  It is your first build and you might not want to overclock.  The stronger cores of Intel are going to give you better performance, and you won't have to second guess if a game wont run well.  I think you can pick up an i3 or an i5 for around $130-$150 and pair it with a $50 motherboard to get superior performance.

[i_build_nanosuits]

you dont have to ''worry if a game will run well'' theres litteraly 3 games that wont run well with FX and they are guild wars2, elder scroll online and planetside2, and they wont ''run well'' on intel either...they are bad games...everything else runs just as well, you don't play these? you're fine...