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Niber

When I'm using a laptop, my fingers are constantly adjusting the brightness of the screen by pressing the brightness up and down button. For example if there's a white window (like this forum) I turn down the brightness, if I'm watching some (SDR) movie I'll crank the brightness back up. I probably do this more than I even adjusting the sound volume, it's great, i love this level of fast control.

 

But then when I'm forced to use desktop I'm just baffled by the lack of this super basic functionality. if I want to change the brightness on a desktop I have to reach over to the monitor, click like 6 buttons to find the right menu then hold a button to slowly adjust the brightness, it's ridicolus.

 

Back in 2010 I used to have a monitor that came with a software so that you could adjust the brightness with a key. This software ACTUALLY sent this signal through USB to the external monitor to change the brightness there, so it wasn't some kind of software dimming. but nowadays I never see this functionality in monitors any more

 

Am I missing something obvious here? I know about F.lux and stuff like that, but I don't want to software dim, I want the actual monitor/TV settings to adjust its brightness output, just like how they do on laptops

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9 minutes ago, Niber said:

When I'm using a laptop, my fingers are constantly adjusting the brightness of the screen by pressing the brightness up and down button. For example if there's a white window (like this forum) I turn down the brightness, if I'm watching some (SDR) movie I'll crank the brightness back up. I probably do this more than I even adjusting the sound volume, it's great, i love this level of fast control.

 

But then when I'm forced to use desktop I'm just baffled by the lack of this super basic functionality. if I want to change the brightness on a desktop I have to reach over to the monitor, click like 6 buttons to find the right menu then hold a button to slowly adjust the brightness, it's ridicolus.

 

Back in 2010 I used to have a monitor that came with a software so that you could adjust the brightness with a key. This software ACTUALLY sent this signal through USB to the external monitor to change the brightness there, so it wasn't some kind of software dimming. but nowadays I never see this functionality in monitors any more

 

Am I missing something obvious here? I know about F.lux and stuff like that, but I don't want to software dim, I want the actual monitor/TV settings to adjust its brightness output, just like how they do on laptops

I use a program called Dimmer. I know you said you dont want software dim but it affects everything on the screen.

You can see on the last screen I dimmed it all the way and it affected the desktop screenshot as well, its basically hardware dimming in software.

I use it before bed to lessen the strain on my eyes.

This program saved my life.
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6 minutes ago, Niber said:

When I'm using a laptop, my fingers are constantly adjusting the brightness of the screen by pressing the brightness up and down button. For example if there's a white window (like this forum) I turn down the brightness, if I'm watching some (SDR) movie I'll crank the brightness back up. I probably do this more than I even adjusting the sound volume, it's great, i love this level of fast control.

 

But then when I'm forced to use desktop I'm just baffled by the lack of this super basic functionality. if I want to change the brightness on a desktop I have to reach over to the monitor, click like 6 buttons to find the right menu then hold a button to slowly adjust the brightness, it's ridicolus.

 

Back in 2010 I used to have a monitor that came with a software so that you could adjust the brightness with a key. This software ACTUALLY sent this signal through USB to the external monitor to change the brightness there, so it wasn't some kind of software dimming. but nowadays I never see this functionality in monitors any more

 

Am I missing something obvious here? I know about F.lux and stuff like that, but I don't want to software dim, I want the actual monitor/TV settings to adjust its brightness output, just like how they do on laptops

This is one of those things that are nice ideas, a royal pain in the ass to implement. Do you really want to trust microsoft with that kind of thing? They cant even get HDR to properly run on windows 10/11, now you are gonna let the break monitor brightness with a random windows update?

 

Im good on that front, dont need microsoft breaking things. Just get the software, get something that was designed to do what you want. Thats the whole point of software like that. Seems rather dumb to say you dont want it when its right there.

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adjusting the brightness is a one and done thing, something's wrong with the settings/calibration if you have to adjust for different programs.

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@Niber Use ClickMonitorDDC. The website was deleted years ago but you can get the Portable version from an archive using the Wayback Machine https://web.archive.org/web/20200803212815/https://clickmonitorddc.bplaced.net/

 

It directly changes your monitors brightness as if you were clicking the buttons on the back. 

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If you adjust properly, they is no need to adjust brightness doing anything and all display can save in different profile for SDR and HDR.

 

I never adjust once settle.

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This is obviously heavily dependant on the user. I personally always use the same brightness. But there are third party software solutions that do just what you ask. For example there is an app called Color Control that has direct access to the display settings and can automatically adjust your settings when launching a specific app and so on. 

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On 1/23/2024 at 9:11 PM, Andrewtst said:

If you adjust properly, they is no need to adjust brightness doing anything and all display can save in different profile for SDR and HDR.

 

I never adjust once settle.

is your room not brighter during midday sun than at night?

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On 1/23/2024 at 12:56 PM, Shimejii said:

This is one of those things that are nice ideas, a royal pain in the ass to implement. Do you really want to trust microsoft with that kind of thing? They cant even get HDR to properly run on windows 10/11, now you are gonna let the break monitor brightness with a random windows update?

 

Im good on that front, dont need microsoft breaking things. Just get the software, get something that was designed to do what you want. Thats the whole point of software like that. Seems rather dumb to say you dont want it when its right there.

It wouldn't be a Microsoft thing, but up to the monitor companies. Like I said my 2012 monitor has a software that comes with the monitor that let's you control the brigthness from the keyboard

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52 minutes ago, Niber said:

is your room not brighter during midday sun than at night?

Off course morning and night the environment brighter was different but this not impact to I need to re-adjust the brightness.

 

I never need to do such thing in everywhere I stay, work and etc. when using the screen. Once adjust to my liking then it is settle and no more need to readjust.

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