What was the point of intels 14gen release? Thinking about upgrading

[T0MMEN]

So im looking at different cpu mobo combos, im thinking about upgrading my GFs rig, she currently has an 8700k at 4.8ghz - Me myself i have an 13600kf and its great, but with the release of intels 14gen i was looking at maybe getting her a 14600k, but reviewing benchmarks they seem to performe the same? 

Anyways, what would you upgrade to? She mainly plays CS2 and PUBG, im thinking the ram and gpu can stay, its a 4x8gb 3200kit and the gpu is a rtx 2060

 

13600kf where i live costs around 300$ (mobo about 150$)

14600k cost about 400$ (same mobo, 150$)

5800x3d 440$ (mobo around 150-200$)

 

[Fasauceome]

7 minutes ago, T0MMEN said:

but reviewing benchmarks they seem to performe the same? 

Pretty much. An overclocked 13600K is gonna provide the same gaming experience as an overclocked 14600K for the most part.

Not to mention, the 12600K is still a compelling offer as well, if you fancy saving some money.

[WereCat]

Both CS2 and PUBG will run much better with the AMD X3D CPUs like 7800X3D or 5800X3D because these games benefit a lot from the extra cache.

14th gen is just a waste of money. If you have to go Intel then just grab the cheaper 13th gen.

[T0MMEN]

10 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Both CS2 and PUBG will run much better with the AMD X3D CPUs like 7800X3D or 5800X3D because these games benefit a lot from the extra cache.

14th gen is just a waste of money. If you have to go Intel then just grab the cheaper 13th gen.

i guess a good mention is, that i have the cooling bracket for lga1700, but lost all the others for am4 lets say. So id probably have to buy a new cooler if i go with amd.

[T0MMEN]

15 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Pretty much. An overclocked 13600K is gonna provide the same gaming experience as an overclocked 14600K for the most part.

Not to mention, the 12600K is still a compelling offer as well, if you fancy saving some money.

id like to find a comparison of the 12600kf vs 13600kf in pubg. Cant seem to find any.

[cooky560]

The 14000 series is essentially a refresh of the same line up, if you can get the 13th gen cpus still, then there's not much point in spending more on the 14th.

[Fasauceome]

19 minutes ago, T0MMEN said:

id like to find a comparison of the 12600kf vs 13600kf in pubg. Cant seem to find any.

I checked out the HWUnboxed review, the average difference in performance between the two is close to 14% in their testing. PUBG is not a terribly popular benchmark game, though, so I don't have an exact comparison in that title

[T0MMEN]

4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

I checked out the HWUnboxed review, the average difference in performance between the two is close to 14% in their testing. PUBG is not a terribly popular benchmark game, though, so I don't have an exact comparison in that title

14% diffrence and the price diffrence is 28% where i live. Though choice.

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, T0MMEN said:

14% diffrence and the price diffrence is 28% where i live. Though choice.

Factor in the motherboard cost as well for the price difference. Also are you still using DDR4, or upgrading to a motherboard with DDR5? If you're on DDR4 the performance difference is a bit smaller.

[T0MMEN]

On 1/13/2024 at 5:33 PM, Fasauceome said:

Factor in the motherboard cost as well for the price difference. Also are you still using DDR4, or upgrading to a motherboard with DDR5? If you're on DDR4 the performance difference is a bit smaller.

im thinking about keeping the ddr4 ram. 

According to userbenchmark the 12600kf is about 30 percent "better" than what she currently has: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-12600KF/3937vsm1700734

 

And the 13600kf is 40percent "better" https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-12600KF/3937vsm1700734

 

Also, would the 13400f be something to consider? Its only 20usd more thant the 12600kf.

[Fasauceome]

56 minutes ago, T0MMEN said:

According to userbenchmark

Userbenchmark is pretty crap, I'll bet those percentages don't factor in the DDR4 vs DDR5 performance at all.

 

56 minutes ago, T0MMEN said:

Also, would the 13400f be something to consider? Its only 20usd more thant the 12600kf

Even though the 13400 is newer, the much faster clock speeds on the 12600K, plus you probably intend to overclock considering the current setup you mentioned, the 12600K should provide more performance overall.

[T0MMEN]

1 hour ago, Fasauceome said:

Userbenchmark is pretty crap, I'll bet those percentages don't factor in the DDR4 vs DDR5 performance at all.

 

Even though the 13400 is newer, the much faster clock speeds on the 12600K, plus you probably intend to overclock considering the current setup you mentioned, the 12600K should provide more performance overall.

But then again, the 13600kf has twice the amount of l2 cache, and as i understand, especially a game like pubg likes more and faster l2 cache.

 

Price difference here currently is 80usd from the 12600kf to the 13600kf. 

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, T0MMEN said:

But then again, the 13600kf has twice the amount of l2 cache, and as i understand, especially a game like pubg likes more and faster l2 cache.

 

Price difference here currently is 80usd from the 12600kf to the 13600kf. 

80USD is not a big difference so if the extra spending is in your budget, go for it.