New PC Build is super slow (and other issues)

[Logun]

New build from Black Friday, been wrestling with it since.

CPU: 7800X3d

Motherboard: ROG Strix B650-A Gaming WIFI

RAM: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade DDR5-6000 CL30 32GB

PSU: Supernova 850w Gold Storage: WD SN850X 2TB, SABRENT Rocket Q 4TB NVMe

GPU: NVidia 3080Ti FE (this is from the previous build)

Sound Card: SoundBlaster ZxR (No daughter board)

 

Windows 11 - fresh install

BIOS: 2214 - Jan 2 2024

 

Time to boot to BIOS is about 37 seconds (always between 35 and 40). Full boot to Windows Lock screen is 1 minute

 

On a fresh boot time to load Steam is 15 seconds. Time to load Friends list from right click Steam icon on the task bar is 15 seconds (the right click menu stays there for the full 15 seconds). If I close Steam and immediately re-open it, its still 15 seconds.

 

This seems super bad. My previous build was a 7700K and Time to BIOS was about 11seconds and boot time was 25seconds. Steam opens in 2 seconds and friends list is near instant.

 

Are these normal times? Am I missing some setting?

 

Fast boot is enabled. Same times regardless of having EXPO set to 1, 2 or disabled. I've tried Memory Context Restore (MCR) both disabled and enabled (both places).

 

Is it an issue with my SN850x? FW is up to date on that. It is installed in the M.2_1 NVMe socket (closest to the CPU) with no SATA ports in use (yet)
Is it an issue with the motherboard?

 

Other issues which may be related:

Randomly screen will go black when I open a Netflix show in Chrome. If just the main monitor goes black it will recover. There are no errors and nothing noted in Event Viewer.

If both monitors go black it's 50/50 on it coming back. Half the time I have to do a hard reset. I can hear the show playing though. Again no error nothing in Event Viewer

Youtube will randomly lose sound for a second or two. This has happened 4 times in 2 months. Nothing in Event Viewer.

 

I cannot force any of these issues to happen. Super random. GPU Drivers were uninstalled with DDU and resintalled. 

 

NO BSOD at all.

[itsabearcannon]

Screen going black on video playback and slow performance (99% of the time) is drivers, drivers, drivers. Update everything you can find - CPU, GPU, chipset, any optional drivers from the vendor's website(s), and try again. Also try disabling Fast Boot and (if this wasn't what you were already talking about when you said Fast Boot) Fast Startup in the Windows 11 power settings. In my experience that causes way more issues than it fixes.

 

That time to BIOS is normal for Ryzen 7000 desktop, by the way - only way to fix that is over time update your motherboard BIOS and it may get better. Zen 4 just takes a hell of a long time to do memory training, it's a fact of life.

[Logun]

ok good to know about the BIOS time, thank you.

 

I cannot deal with the application start time though. Its infuriating as it's so long between clicking to execute and anything at all happening that I'm always wondering if I've misclicked.

 

There must still be something wrong.

 

All drivers are current. I just did a fresh wipe today. All Drivers from ROG were downloaded and installed. I just installed Nvidia driver 5 mins before typing this, lets test...yup forced a main screen black with a buzz sound (the first sound from the show just buzzed). It recovered after a second and continued on.

 

On thing I did before that did not seem to have an impact (although its hard to tell because it is random - even though it happened right now as I tested) - was to create a rule in Display settings to force Chrome to use the GPU and not rely on onboard graphics.

[Logun]

Another new fun issue - if I try to install a Steam game and click on the cog to install it in a different place it just kills the installer screen

[Logun]

Benchmarked Shadow of the Tomb Raider and it was just fine - no issues

[TrinoD]

8 hours ago, Logun said:

New build from Black Friday, been wrestling with it since.

CPU: 7800X3d

Motherboard: ROG Strix B650-A Gaming WIFI

RAM: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade DDR5-6000 CL30 32GB

PSU: Supernova 850w Gold Storage: WD SN850X 2TB, SABRENT Rocket Q 4TB NVMe

GPU: NVidia 3080Ti FE (this is from the previous build)

Sound Card: SoundBlaster ZxR (No daughter board)

 

Windows 11 - fresh install

BIOS: 2214 - Jan 2 2024

 

Time to boot to BIOS is about 37 seconds (always between 35 and 40). Full boot to Windows Lock screen is 1 minute

 

On a fresh boot time to load Steam is 15 seconds. Time to load Friends list from right click Steam icon on the task bar is 15 seconds (the right click menu stays there for the full 15 seconds). If I close Steam and immediately re-open it, its still 15 seconds.

 

This seems super bad. My previous build was a 7700K and Time to BIOS was about 11seconds and boot time was 25seconds. Steam opens in 2 seconds and friends list is near instant.

 

Are these normal times? Am I missing some setting?

 

Fast boot is enabled. Same times regardless of having EXPO set to 1, 2 or disabled. I've tried Memory Context Restore (MCR) both disabled and enabled (both places).

 

Is it an issue with my SN850x? FW is up to date on that. It is installed in the M.2_1 NVMe socket (closest to the CPU) with no SATA ports in use (yet)
Is it an issue with the motherboard?

 

Other issues which may be related:

Randomly screen will go black when I open a Netflix show in Chrome. If just the main monitor goes black it will recover. There are no errors and nothing noted in Event Viewer.

If both monitors go black it's 50/50 on it coming back. Half the time I have to do a hard reset. I can hear the show playing though. Again no error nothing in Event Viewer

Youtube will randomly lose sound for a second or two. This has happened 4 times in 2 months. Nothing in Event Viewer.

 

I cannot force any of these issues to happen. Super random. GPU Drivers were uninstalled with DDU and resintalled. 

 

NO BSOD at all.

Hello, to fix your boot times head in to the bios search for memory timings & enable memory context restore & PowerdownEnabled after your initial 1st boot you should see an improvement, as for steam it's always been slow to boot for me but it sounds like your install maybe corrupt? try reinstalling or overwriting with the beta version & see if that helps.

Edited January 8 by TrinoD
settings fix

[Logun]

I have played with MCR both enabled and disabled and not seen a noticeable difference. Always time to BIOS has been between 35-40 seconds. I will look at the PowerDownEnabled setting too.

 

Current boot time to Windows lock screen is 1minute. I understand Time to BIOS is super slow for the 7000 series.

 

Issues have persisted over 3 different OS installs. Win 11, then tested with Win 10 and now back to Win 11.

 

I will be testing tonight to remove my GPU and only have onboard graphics to see if I can reproduce that Black screen issue. I have already contacted MemoryExpress about returning the motherboard.

 

Thats all I can think off. I'm at a dead end right now so any help at all from anyone would be greatly appreciated!!

[Logun]

Ok so it seems like the onboard graphics are a part of the issue. I removed the GPU, plugged into the onboard graphics and the unresponsiveness of loading Steam was completely gone. Steam boots instantly now.

 

However there are other issues, but I ignored them, rebooted, went into BIOS and disabled integrated graphics there. Reinstalled the GPU, swapped cables and booted. All was good - almost. 

 

Steam responsiveness near instant.

 

I got a Black screen and audio BUZZZZ when I loaded a YT video. 

 

I emailed MemoryExpress yesterday morning with no response yet. Still don't know if it's the board or what.

 

Does anyone have any other suggestions??

[Logun]

I've never had to go into the BIOS to disable integrated graphics to solve a software load time issue. Any one have any ideas? If this was common I would have thought I would see more posts about these specific issues

[wapochief]

Did you resolve this? I have a new AMD build and it is also very slow to open any application. Worse than a HDD. 

[Logun]

4 hours ago, wapochief said:

Did you resolve this? I have a new AMD build and it is also very slow to open any application. Worse than a HDD. 

Hello,

 

Do you have a chip with integrated graphics? If so you will need to go into the BIOS to disable the igpu. (ensure you are plugged into your GPU and not your motherboard too)

 

I wasn't able to traverse to find the location in the BIOS I had to just search for Graphics

 

I am still testing some of the other symptoms, but right now the theory is that it might be HDR related. But that has yet to be proven.

 

[wapochief]

23 minutes ago, Logun said:

Hello,

 

Do you have a chip with integrated graphics? If so you will need to go into the BIOS to disable the igpu. (ensure you are plugged into your GPU and not your motherboard too)

 

I wasn't able to traverse to find the location in the BIOS I had to just search for Graphics

 

I am still testing some of the other symptoms, but right now the theory is that it might be HDR related. But that has yet to be proven.

 

No, the motherboard supports it, but my 5700x has no integrated graphics. I'll look to see if this is an option for me in the bios. 

[Logun]

For me the issue of Steam loading slow and the context menu being slow was 100% the Igpu. I proved that by removing the Discrete GPU and using only on board graphics (no issue). Once I put my GPU back in and disabled Integrated Graphics in the BIOS there was no further issue.

 

It looks like the other issues  I've been have are related to running a TV at 4K 120 and HDR on. Either I have a poor 8K cable or I've maxed out the bandwidth. Either way, I can run 4K, HDR at 100Hz or 4K, no HDR and 120Hz.

 

 

6 hours ago, wapochief said:

No, the motherboard supports it, but my 5700x has no integrated graphics. I'll look to see if this is an option for me in the bios. 

 

[Logun]

Ok coming back to this hopefully one last time. It looks like it's a Chrome issue. No idea why.

 

Issues Include:

- Video playback audio skipping

- Black Screen across TV

- Black screen across TV and monitor

- Lag effect when enabling YT fullscreen

- Lag effect when exiting YT fullscreen

- Windows media player causing a fault on Twitch popout

- automated context switching following a blackscreen across all active displays

- Input lag when interacting with Chrome

 

Moved over to FF now to see if any of those issues manifest themselves on that browser. (Two hours later, nothing)