I need help whit picing parts for a new PC

[PeytonTV]

Budget : 1200€-1500€

 

Country: Europe (Slovenija)

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: State of decay 2, Company of heroes 3, Cyberpunk 2077, Anno 1800, Civilization 6, Witcher 3, Mount and blade bannerlord, Minecraft, Fusion 360 ...

 

I need help whit chusing parts for a new PC i want it to be best bamg for the buck. Taxes and shiping are not included in the price of the PC.

 

Thanks for any help

[Cazmorior]

37 minutes ago, PeytonTV said:

Budget : 1200€-1500€

 

Country: Europe (Slovenija)

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: State of decay 2, Company of heroes 3, Cyberpunk 2077, Anno 1800, Civilization 6, Witcher 3, Mount and blade bannerlord, Minecraft, Fusion 360 ...

 

I need help whit chusing parts for a new PC i want it to be best bamg for the buck. Taxes and shiping are not included in the price of the PC.

 

Thanks for any help

I hope this helps, goes a bit over the budget.

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/list/rWhrmD)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/66C48d/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-47-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000593wof) | €221.90 @ Alza 
**CPU Cooler** | [Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/7J6p99/deepcool-ak620-zero-dark-6899-cfm-cpu-cooler-r-ak620-bknnmt-g-1) | €75.90 @ Alza 
**Motherboard** | [MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/mP88TW/msi-pro-b650-s-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650-s-wifi) | €166.90 @ Alza 
**Memory** | [G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/gyTp99/gskill-trident-z5-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl40-memory-f5-6000j4040f16gx2-tz5k) | €116.90 @ Alza 
**Video Card** | [Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/VgtLrH/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-gv-n407twf3oc-12gd) | €885.90 @ Alza 
**Case** | [Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/YLGbt6/deepcool-cc560-atx-mid-tower-case-r-cc560-bkgaa4-g-1) | €66.90 @ Alza 
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/97848d/seasonic-focus-gx-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-750) | €103.90 @ Alza 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **€1638.30**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-11-22 20:59 CET+0100 |

[podkall]

6 minutes ago, Cazmorior said:

I hope this helps, goes a bit over the budget.

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/list/rWhrmD)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/66C48d/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-47-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000593wof) | €221.90 @ Alza 
**CPU Cooler** | [Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/7J6p99/deepcool-ak620-zero-dark-6899-cfm-cpu-cooler-r-ak620-bknnmt-g-1) | €75.90 @ Alza 
**Motherboard** | [MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/mP88TW/msi-pro-b650-s-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650-s-wifi) | €166.90 @ Alza 
**Memory** | [G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/gyTp99/gskill-trident-z5-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl40-memory-f5-6000j4040f16gx2-tz5k) | €116.90 @ Alza 
**Video Card** | [Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/VgtLrH/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-gv-n407twf3oc-12gd) | €885.90 @ Alza 
**Case** | [Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/YLGbt6/deepcool-cc560-atx-mid-tower-case-r-cc560-bkgaa4-g-1) | €66.90 @ Alza 
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://at.pcpartpicker.com/product/97848d/seasonic-focus-gx-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-750) | €103.90 @ Alza 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **€1638.30**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-11-22 20:59 CET+0100 |

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€221.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€75.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€166.90 @ Alza)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory  (€116.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (€885.90 @ Alza)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€66.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€103.90 @ Alza)
Total: €1638.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-22 21:06 CET+0100

[Jeppes]

About 1500€ without the German vat:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€363.58 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€44.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€168.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€111.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Lexar NM790 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.28 @ Galaxus)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (€817.89 @ Caseking)
Case: Corsair 3000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€104.90 @ Corsair DE)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Max 84.04 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€7.79 @ Alza)
Total: €1794.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-22 21:10 CET+0100

[PeytonTV]

Thanks for the help, I'm wondering if there is an alternative option with Radeon GPUs or if Nvidia GPUs are the best for the price.

[PeytonTV]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€221.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€75.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€166.90 @ Alza)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory  (€116.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (€885.90 @ Alza)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€66.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€103.90 @ Alza)
Total: €1638.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-22 21:06 CET+0100

Thanks for the help, I'm wondering if there is an alternative option with Radeon GPUs or if Nvidia GPUs are the best for the price.

[podkall]

16 hours ago, PeytonTV said:

Thanks for the help, I'm wondering if there is an alternative option with Radeon GPUs or if Nvidia GPUs are the best for the price.

that depends, usually AMD is slightly faster in raster performance, but Nvidia offers countless feautres some people might use, (Nvenc, CUDA, DLSS, good RT performance)

 

But it's obviously possible that there's faster AMD variant for similar price if you don't care about any of Nvidia's features..

[PeytonTV]

2 hours ago, podkall said:

that depends, usually AMD is slightly faster in raster performance, but Nvidia offers countless feautres some people might use, (Nvenc, CUDA, DLSS, good RT performance)

 

But it's obviously possible that there's faster AMD variant for similar price if you don't care about any of Nvidia's features..

ok, thx for the help

 

another question is there a motherboard option without wifi (i have a cable ethernet) is a mother board like a ASRock B650M PG Lightning good option

[podkall]

20 minutes ago, PeytonTV said:

ok, thx for the help

 

another question is there a motherboard option without wifi (i have a cable ethernet) is a mother board like a ASRock B650M PG Lightning good option

there probably is, unless WIFI is cheapest one,

 

I'm not really the best to ask about AM5 motherboards, let me try someone @Hinjima

[Hinjima]

27 minutes ago, podkall said:

there probably is, unless WIFI is cheapest one,

 

I'm not really the best to ask about AM5 motherboards, let me try someone @Hinjima

+1

48 minutes ago, PeytonTV said:

ok, thx for the help

 

another question is there a motherboard option without wifi (i have a cable ethernet) is a mother board like a ASRock B650M PG Lightning good option

Hey there. I would pass on the ASRock B650M PG Lightning, I would get a full sized ATX board if you are using a normal sized PC case.
The ASRock B650M PG Lightning is alright but its lacking a bit in the VRM cooling.

Getting a WIFI model is not a bad thing either, the WIFI antenna works as a bluetooth reciever so you can use an XBOX controller wirelessly.
Let me know what size you are going with and I will recommend a few boards.

 

[PeytonTV]

14 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

+1

Hey there. I would pass on the ASRock B650M PG Lightning, I would get a full sized ATX board if you are using a normal sized PC case.
The ASRock B650M PG Lightning is alright but its lacking a bit in the VRM cooling.

Getting a WIFI model is not a bad thing either, the WIFI antenna works as a bluetooth reciever so you can use an XBOX controller wirelessly.
Let me know what size you are going with and I will recommend a few boards.

 

Hello to you too, i am looking at an micro-ATX and ATX boards but i think i will get all i need with a micro-ATX board

[Hinjima]

7 minutes ago, PeytonTV said:

Hello to you too, i am looking at an micro-ATX and ATX boards but i think i will get all i need with a micro-ATX board

If your case has room for ATX then this is recommended.   Also MicroATX looks awful in a full sized case.
If you want to go with MicroATX then the MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI and ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi are very nicely priced with good VRM cooling.

If ATX then the MSI PRO B650-P WIFI or MSI B650 GAMING PLUS are good boards.

[PeytonTV]

1 hour ago, Hinjima said:

If your case has room for ATX then this is recommended.   Also MicroATX looks awful in a full sized case.
If you want to go with MicroATX then the MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI and ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi are very nicely priced with good VRM cooling.

If ATX then the MSI PRO B650-P WIFI or MSI B650 GAMING PLUS are good boards.

Ok, thank you for the information it helped a lot. I think i got a PC together now that is in my budget. Could you make a quick check at the pc if components are compatible with each other and if i could switch component on the list with better component ( i still got about 100€ left overfor some impruvments).

 

https://at.pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9CYL9

[PeytonTV]

On 11/22/2023 at 9:06 PM, podkall said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€221.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€75.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€166.90 @ Alza)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory  (€116.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (€885.90 @ Alza)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€66.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€103.90 @ Alza)
Total: €1638.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-22 21:06 CET+0100

Hi i have one more question is RX 6950 xt any good or is RTX 4070 better choice?

[Hinjima]

24 minutes ago, PeytonTV said:

Ok, thank you for the information it helped a lot. I think i got a PC together now that is in my budget. Could you make a quick check at the pc if components are compatible with each other and if i could switch component on the list with better component ( i still got about 100€ left overfor some impruvments).

 

https://at.pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9CYL9

Everything looks very good here
All parts are compatible and will work very well!

The motherboard you picked is also very good.

Palit is a very good GPU brand too, so dont worry about that either.

[PeytonTV]

4 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Everything looks very good here
All parts are compatible and will work very well!

The motherboard you picked is also very good.

Palit is a very good GPU brand too, so dont worry about that either.

 

Thank you for all the help with my PC m8 

Ok one final question is RX 6950 XT any good or is RTX 4070 better choice (at the store it is 20€ price difference between RTX 4070 andRX 6950 xt)

[podkall]

33 minutes ago, PeytonTV said:

 

Thank you for all the help with my PC m8 

Ok one final question is RX 6950 XT any good or is RTX 4070 better choice (at the store it is 20€ price difference between RTX 4070 andRX 6950 xt)

RX 6950 XT has comparable performance to 4070 ti, it's again if you need features where Nvidia can be better, but raw performance can be 6950 XT's win

(for example 6950 XT has bigger VRAM)

 

[Hinjima]

34 minutes ago, PeytonTV said:

 

Thank you for all the help with my PC m8 

Ok one final question is RX 6950 XT any good or is RTX 4070 better choice (at the store it is 20€ price difference between RTX 4070 andRX 6950 xt)

Here is a video showing the difference. They are very equal in performance but sometimes each card is better in certain games.

The 6950XT uses significantly more power than the 4070 and the 4070 also has better raytracing and support for DLSS.

The 6950XT has a bit more VRAM.

I would personaly lean towards the 4070 but the 6950XT is also not a bad card at all.

 

 

[podkall]

12 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

The 6950XT uses significantly more power than the 4070 and the 4070 also has better raytracing and support for DLSS.

oh yeah, but if OP doesn't care about RT (or again.. other Nvidia features), then the 6950 XT can be better almost in any game

[Hinjima]

13 minutes ago, podkall said:

oh yeah, but if OP doesn't care about RT (or again.. other Nvidia features), then the 6950 XT can be better almost in any game

Absolutely! You are correct there. It also has more VRAM so it might 'last a bit longer' with modern games.

[PeytonTV]

19 hours ago, Hinjima said:

Absolutely! You are correct there. It also has more VRAM so it might 'last a bit longer' with modern games.

So if i understand right the RX 6950 xt with 16GB of vRAM will better run newer games that need more VRAM to run.

 

Thx for all the help guys all of the help was much aprisheited