Posted October 18, 2023 Mostly out of stock now, remaining stock now costs about 23000 CNY or about 3150 USD, once they're all gone I guess we can only get 4080s or Ada6000s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2023 Is there any reason why? Do you have a news source? AMD 3600x, 16GB DDR4 3200MHz CL14, GTX 1080, and Ungodly Amounts of Storage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2023 Author 7 minutes ago, ItTakes2ToMango said: Is there any reason why? Do you have a news source? Apparently, it's about AI, and the 4090 has enough compute power for it to get banned. Sorry for bad grammar, English isn't my main language. Also I can't find an image in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, ItTakes2ToMango said: Is there any reason why? Do you have a news source? I am assuming OP is talking about this. https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-may-be-forced-shift-out-some-countries-after-new-us-export-curbs-2023-10-17/ mY sYsTeM iS Not pErfoRmInG aS gOOd As I sAW oN yOuTuBe. WhA t IS a GoOd FaN CuRVe??!!? wHat aRe tEh GoOd OvERclok SeTTinGS FoR My CaRd?? HoW CaN I foRcE my GpU to uSe 1o0%? BuT WiLL i HaVE Bo0tllEnEcKs? RyZEN dOeS NoT peRfORm BetTer wItH HiGhER sPEED RaM!!! dId i WiN teH SiLiCON LotTerrY? yOu ShoUlD dEsHrOuD uR GPU. my SYstEm iS UNDerPerforMiNg iN WarzONE. can mY Pc Run WiNdOwS 11 ?? woUld BaKInG MY GRaPHics card fIX it? MultimETeR TeSTiNG!! aMd'S GpU DrIvErS aRe as goOD aS NviDia's YOU SHoUlD oVERCloCk yOUR ramS To 5000C18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2023 Surprised the 4080 hasn't been banned as well. That's no slouch either, almost as good. Or it's coming down the pipeline to be banned as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2023 Author 1 minute ago, RobGMun said: Surprised the 4080 hasn't been banned as well. That's no slouch either, almost as good. Or it's coming down the pipeline to be banned as well I'm more surprised the Ada6000 isn't banned either, probably soon though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2023 Aren't these GPUs assembled in China? Where are they going to make them then? EDIT: Apparently most (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, Palit) are made in Taiwan according to Wikipedia. Sapphire and Zotac are made in Hong Kong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2023 Author 13 minutes ago, HorseBattery said: Aren't these GPUs assembled in China? Where are they going to make them then? EDIT: Apparently most (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, Palit) are made in Taiwan according to Wikipedia. Sapphire and Zotac are made in Hong Kong. Assembled yes, but there's no stock at any major retailer now, only the secondhand market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2023 There is indeed a lot of news about this matter on the Chinese Internet, but most of the sources are a document published by Nvidia in sec. The specific implementation rules of the U.S. Department of Commerce are too long. My English is not very good, so it will take too much time to read them. However, judging from the fact that a100 and h100 were banned from being exported to China in the past few months, individual consumers can still buy them from some informal channels. I think the worst case scenario is that if Chinese consumers want to buy 4090 in the future, they will have to buy one from Japan and bring it back, because the air tickets from eastern China to Tokyo are not very expensive, and the US government cannot stop Chinese tourists from doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2023 6 hours ago, yuykyk said: There is indeed a lot of news about this matter on the Chinese Internet, but most of the sources are a document published by Nvidia in sec. The specific implementation rules of the U.S. Department of Commerce are too long. My English is not very good, so it will take too much time to read them. However, judging from the fact that a100 and h100 were banned from being exported to China in the past few months, individual consumers can still buy them from some informal channels. I think the worst case scenario is that if Chinese consumers want to buy 4090 in the future, they will have to buy one from Japan and bring it back, because the air tickets from eastern China to Tokyo are not very expensive, and the US government cannot stop Chinese tourists from doing this. However, Japanese customs can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2023 just for clarification, who banned them? The direction tells you... the direction. -Scott Manley, 2021 Softwares used: Corsair Link (Anime Edition) MSI Afterburner OpenRGB Lively Wallpaper OBS Studio Shutter Encoder Avidemux FSResizer Audacity VLC WMP GIMP HWiNFO64 Paint 3D Paint GitHub Desktop Superposition Prime95 Aida64 GPUZ CPUZ Generic Logviewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said: just for clarification, who banned them? Will be something to do with closing of loopholes with the chip ban for china as they are used for AI. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/us-govt-restricts-shipments-of-geforce-rtx-4090-to-china-other-countries Edited October 19, 2023 by SnugglyGirl Added Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 19, 2023 They're not banned. They are allowed to be sold in China - they cannot be manufactured in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, PannyPancakes said: They're not banned. They are allowed to be sold in China - they cannot be manufactured in China. To clarify, the chips can't be exported to china. It's the USA imposing this, not China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 20, 2023 Banned for power draw reasons I'm assuming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, kitchenmadelemonade said: Banned for power draw reasons I'm assuming? Never mind I now see that its import/export regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 21, 2023 there wealthy people in china and this wont stop em. there will be ai. I have dyslexia plz be kind to me. dont like my post dont read it or respond thx also i edit post alot because you no why... Thrasher_565 hub links build logs Corsair Lian Li Bykski Barrow thermaltake nzxt aquacomputer 5v argb pin out guide + argb info 5v device to 12v mb header Odds and Sods Argb Rgb Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said: there wealthy people in china and this wont stop em. there will be ai. Agreed, all this does is slow them down. My concern is how AI could be used on the battlefield. I really think the UN needs to step in and we need to have a convention on AI and how AI can be used. I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, Donut417 said: Agreed, all this does is slow them down. My concern is how AI could be used on the battlefield. I really think the UN needs to step in and we need to have a convention on AI and how AI can be used. ai is already being used and if your talking about ai say powered tanks probably all ready a thing. but i mean they will still use people first before using the ai... as there cheap... yes were are at a point were alot of jobs can be replaced so people are not really needed anymore. ill leave it at that. but i mean why not just make an asic for ai then? I have dyslexia plz be kind to me. dont like my post dont read it or respond thx also i edit post alot because you no why... Thrasher_565 hub links build logs Corsair Lian Li Bykski Barrow thermaltake nzxt aquacomputer 5v argb pin out guide + argb info 5v device to 12v mb header Odds and Sods Argb Rgb Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 21, 2023 54 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said: there wealthy people in china and this wont stop em. there will be ai. This is not meant to stop individuals. This is to stop companies who but in large quantities. 45 minutes ago, Donut417 said: Agreed, all this does is slow them down. My concern is how AI could be used on the battlefield. I really think the UN needs to step in and we need to have a convention on AI and how AI can be used. That is fine for countries that are part of or follow UN conventions. Guess who doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 22, 2023 I wonder how such bans are even effective to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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