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whats the best combo for our school pc?

JoHeJo06

we need a pc for 3d modeling in school and found loads of useable parts while cleaning out a retired teachers classroom. for gpu we have a gtx 680 with a "homemade" cooler on it, since the cooler was missing. and for cpu we have two options. either an i7-3770 with 4x4gb of ram or dual xeon x5570 processors with 6x4gb of ram. we are gonna be running cura and inventor on it. i did a little research and found that cura prefers multi core and inventor prefers single core.

in passmark, the i7 is almost twice as fast as a single of these xeons. in geekbench 5 single core, the i7 is 25% faster and in multi core, a single xeon is actually 15% faster. these are of course benchmarks, but it tells us something about the performance of hese two.

 

what would give us the best performance?

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the i7 is better of course. X5570 is much older with no AVX support, pretty much ruling it out for any serious work these days.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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22 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

the i7 is better of course. X5570 is much older with no AVX support, pretty much ruling it out for any serious work these days.

the motherboard we have for the i7 is from hp, looks pretty oem but it has 24 pin, 4 pin cpu and a standard mATX form factor. im expecting it to have a pretty low end chipset but could we do some overclocking with it? i found a nice list of the chipsets on wikipedia and it looks like we can do bclk oc. do you know if this is true? i dont really know a lot about chipsets from back then.

 

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Go for the i7

 

1366 is trash if you dont overclock and stupid power hungry too especially when overclocked not to mention no avx support

 

If you want something more relevant thats actually better than the i7 at maybe a similar price then look at x79/99 workstations, maybe you can find a cheap one and drop an e5 1650 or one that already has a 1650/1660 in and overclock to 4ghz via throttlestop, also quad channel so lots of room for ram upgrades and imc doesnt suck like westmere x xeons (unsure about nehalem xeon imcs but my i7 950 can hit 2900 ddr3)

 

 

Btw is this existing hardware or interesting deals you wanna buy?

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If you are using this for 3d modeling I wouldn't bother with overclocks as the gains in speed aren't worth the risk of the pc crashing while working in the program. 

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17 minutes ago, JoHeJo06 said:

the motherboard we have for the i7 is from hp, looks pretty oem but it has 24 pin, 4 pin cpu and a standard mATX form factor. im expecting it to have a pretty low end chipset but could we do some overclocking with it? i found a nice list of the chipsets on wikipedia and it looks like we can do bclk oc. do you know if this is true? i dont really know a lot about chipsets from back then.

 

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Can't oc a i7 3770 besides blck. Which you CANT do on a hp board anyway.

 

So get the i7 3770 and use that

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14 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Go for the i7

 

1366 is trash if you dont overclock and stupid power hungry too especially when overclocked not to mention no avx support

 

If you want something more relevant thats actually better than the i7 at maybe a similar price then look at x79/99 workstations, maybe you can find a cheap one and drop an e5 1650 or one that already has a 1650/1660 in and overclock to 4ghz via throttlestop, also quad channel so lots of room for ram upgrades and imc doesnt suck like westmere x xeons (unsure about nehalem xeon imcs but my i7 950 can hit 2900 ddr3)

 

 

Btw is this existing hardware or interesting deals you wanna buy?

its hardware we have in school, we have piles of (old) memory, cpus, gpus,... and we selected the best parts we had to build our 3d modeling machine.

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21 minutes ago, JoHeJo06 said:

its hardware we have in school, we have piles of (old) memory, cpus, gpus,... and we selected the best parts we had to build our 3d modeling machine.

Unused hardware can be resold and used to buy some better stuff, 3770 is a solid pick though so unless you can find an old x79/99 workstation thats the best you can do for cheap cause hardwares already there

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27 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Unused hardware can be resold and used to buy some better stuff, 3770 is a solid pick though so unless you can find an old x79/99 workstation thats the best you can do for cheap cause hardwares already there

i dont think the school allows us to sell the old parts... we do have multiple 3080s in watercooled pcs lol

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16 minutes ago, JoHeJo06 said:

i dont think the school allows us to sell the old parts... we do have multiple 3080s in watercooled pcs lol

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