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Fresh install of Truenas - Data Migration ?'s

tjrose91

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main questions i finally got truenas set up and im uploading over 8tb of data to my home server like most ISP's i have a data cap, now im new to this server stuff and got everything set up minus the data transfer, dont want to spend 100 USD because i used my data cap its not like im downloading over 8tb of corn but the NAS is seen as a Network Drive

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If your copying files over the isp your limited by their data cap. So pay to remove it, or work around it by putting the data in the mail or simmilar.

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11 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

If your copying files over the isp your limited by their data cap. So pay to remove it, or work around it by putting the data in the mail or simmilar.

this is a home server with TrueNas

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1 minute ago, tjrose91 said:

this is a home server with TrueNas

If it's your home server, then it's being transferred over your home network. It never leaves your home, i.e. never touches the ISP's network, so no data cap.

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                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Proxmox Virtual Switch)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)           ╠═ Veda-NAS (HW Passthrough NIC)
╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Narrative (Asus USB 2.5G NIC)
║ ┌────── Closet ──────┐   ┌─────────────── Bedroom ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
╚═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╤═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Byarlant
   (PoE)                 │                        ╠═ Narrative (Cable Matters USB-PD 2.5G Ethernet Dongle)
                         │                        ╚═ Jesta Cannon*
                         │ ┌─────────────── Media Center ──────────────────────────────────┐
Notes:                   └─ UniFi Switch 8 ─────────┬─ UniFi Access Point nanoHD (PoE)
═══ is Multi-Gigabit                                ├─ Sony Playstation 4 
─── is Gigabit                                      ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
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44 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

If it's your home server, then it's being transferred over your home network. It never leaves your home, i.e. never touches the ISP's network, so no data cap.

thats what i am hoping at least, TrueNas requires an ethernet connection and using Wi-Fi from my home PC to the NAS, so far i transferred .30tb or 300gb and my ISP website said i only consumed 80gb worth of data

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16 minutes ago, tjrose91 said:

thats what i am hoping at least, TrueNas requires an ethernet connection and using Wi-Fi from my home PC to the NAS, so far i transferred .30tb or 300gb and my ISP website said i only consumed 80gb worth of data

That is correct. When you are transferring data between computers on your local network you don't use your isp data and therefor won't count towards your cap. 

This is one reason for the shows and movies I watch a lot and already own I digitized and put in a local plex server so I don't have to stream it over the internet again and again. 

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1 hour ago, tjrose91 said:

thats what i am hoping at least, TrueNas requires an ethernet connection and using Wi-Fi from my home PC to the NAS, so far i transferred .30tb or 300gb and my ISP website said i only consumed 80gb worth of data

I would probably do a bit of learning, specifically about networking basics. We do have stereotypes for a reason….. after all. 
 

Something to consider, maybe you are asking uninformed questions which is why the lady at the ISP company had no idea how to answer your question. Not trying to be rude at all, but if you intend to run a Truenas box successfully, you need to understand some network basics, and asking how much of your data cap your going to eat up transferring data over your LAN is a concerning thing to be confused about. As others said, these have nothing to do with eachother. Your ISP doesn’t care, and has no knowledge of, what is happening inside your local network (LAN, short for local area network). There is no data cap on anything local, your transferring data directly from device to device, it’s not going out to the internet at all… unless what you meant to say is you are torrenting via your PC to a network share on the NAS. If that is the case, then yes, you’d be using internet bandwidth for the torrent downloads. But in the data is already on a PC in your house, then you are not using any internet bandwidth…….

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9 hours ago, tjrose91 said:

TrueNas requires an ethernet connection and using Wi-Fi from my home PC to the NAS, so far i transferred .30tb or 300gb and my ISP website said i only consumed 80gb worth of data

If it stays within your home network, then it's just between your NAS, router, and PC. No data is transferred through your ISP. 

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6 hours ago, LIGISTX said:

I would probably do a bit of learning, specifically about networking basics. We do have stereotypes for a reason….. after all. 
 

Something to consider, maybe you are asking uninformed questions which is why the lady at the ISP company had no idea how to answer your question. Not trying to be rude at all, but if you intend to run a Truenas box successfully, you need to understand some network basics, and asking how much of your data cap your going to eat up transferring data over your LAN is a concerning thing to be confused about. As others said, these have nothing to do with eachother. Your ISP doesn’t care, and has no knowledge of, what is happening inside your local network (LAN, short for local area network). There is no data cap on anything local, your transferring data directly from device to device, it’s not going out to the internet at all… unless what you meant to say is you are torrenting via your PC to a network share on the NAS. If that is the case, then yes, you’d be using internet bandwidth for the torrent downloads. But in the data is already on a PC in your house, then you are not using any internet bandwidth…….

i mean i used the autobot to get to tech support so you figured something 

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41 minutes ago, tjrose91 said:

i mean i used the autobot to get to tech support so you figured something 

You didn’t need to talk to the ISP at all. This has nothing to do with them is what we are trying to say.

 

Having a NAS or a homelab is a great learning experience, it will help you understand computers and networking much more then you realize. But you do have to start with some basic knowledge or else things are going to become issues for you. TrueNAS is a semi advanced system, and it’s easy to get into a situation where you can’t undo what you did, or you can accidentally put your data in a very unsafe configuration and not realize it and have no way to fix it… all of this to say, you as the user need to do your homework and make sure you understand what’s going on, at a basic level at least. Then from there, you can learn. Learning is all part of homelabing 🙂 

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Headphones/amp/dac: Schiit Lyr 3 - - Fostex TR-X00 - - Sennheiser HD 6xx

 

Homelab/ Media Server: Proxmox VE host - - 512 NVMe Samsung 980 RAID Z1 for VM's/Proxmox boot - - Xeon e5 2660 V4- - Supermicro X10SRF-i - - 128 GB ECC 2133 - - 10x4 TB WD Red RAID Z2 - - Corsair 750D - - Corsair RM650i - - Dell H310 6Gbps SAS HBA - - Intel RES2SC240 SAS Expander - - TreuNAS + many other VM’s

 

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Copying files between computers on your local network does not count against your data cap. That’s only for data that leaves your house, reaching out to the Internet. It doesn’t matter if they’re connecting to Ethernet, WiFi, or any combination of the two. 

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10 hours ago, LIGISTX said:

You didn’t need to talk to the ISP at all. This has nothing to do with them is what we are trying to say.

 

Having a NAS or a homelab is a great learning experience, it will help you understand computers and networking much more then you realize. But you do have to start with some basic knowledge or else things are going to become issues for you. TrueNAS is a semi advanced system, and it’s easy to get into a situation where you can’t undo what you did, or you can accidentally put your data in a very unsafe configuration and not realize it and have no way to fix it… all of this to say, you as the user need to do your homework and make sure you understand what’s going on, at a basic level at least. Then from there, you can learn. Learning is all part of homelabing 🙂 

i mean i did as much as the ISP did and google but even then i assume the terms i was using was broad is a 8th Gen Pentium Gold G5420T an ok CPU for a file sever i dont plan to do much other than store files it has 16 gb of 2133 ram and for some reason i got bored and OC'd it with preset bios 2666

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14 minutes ago, tjrose91 said:

is a 8th Gen Pentium Gold G5420T an ok CPU for a file sever

Absolutely. If anything, it's overkill.

 

Pretty much any desktop CPU from the last 20 years can saturate a Gigabit Ethernet connection over SMB (Windows file sharing).

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23 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

Absolutely. If anything, it's overkill.

 

Pretty much any desktop CPU from the last 20 years can saturate a Gigabit Ethernet connection over SMB (Windows file sharing).

Still in the process of data migration, from my main desktop with an NVME setup for fast local storage, but just switched everything to ethernet and went from 80mb/s to 115ishMB/s now the Pentium gold is at 36% average with 50% on core 2 and this is a dual core w/ HT once the data migration is done i dont see much large data transfers maybe a few hundred gigs every now and then 

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1 hour ago, tjrose91 said:

i mean i did as much as the ISP did and google but even then i assume the terms i was using was broad

I don’t know what this means. What are you trying to say?

 

1 hour ago, tjrose91 said:

2133 ram and for some reason i got bored and OC'd it with preset bios 2666

Set it back to default. You don’t need fast RAM for a file server in this use case. Any RAM instability would be catastrophic, so set it back to default speeds since all you are doing is increasing the chance of issue and gaining nothing. 

Rig: i7 13700k - - Asus Z790-P Wifi - - RTX 4080 - - 4x16GB 6000MHz - - Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVMe Boot + Main Programs - - Assorted SATA SSD's for Photo Work - - Corsair RM850x - - Sound BlasterX EA-5 - - Corsair XC8 JTC Edition - - Corsair GPU Full Cover GPU Block - - XT45 X-Flow 420 + UT60 280 rads - - EK XRES RGB PWM - - Fractal Define S2 - - Acer Predator X34 -- Logitech G502 - - Logitech G710+ - - Logitech Z5500 - - LTT Deskpad

 

Headphones/amp/dac: Schiit Lyr 3 - - Fostex TR-X00 - - Sennheiser HD 6xx

 

Homelab/ Media Server: Proxmox VE host - - 512 NVMe Samsung 980 RAID Z1 for VM's/Proxmox boot - - Xeon e5 2660 V4- - Supermicro X10SRF-i - - 128 GB ECC 2133 - - 10x4 TB WD Red RAID Z2 - - Corsair 750D - - Corsair RM650i - - Dell H310 6Gbps SAS HBA - - Intel RES2SC240 SAS Expander - - TreuNAS + many other VM’s

 

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