Custom PC build im doing for a friend, thoughts?

[Mesarasi]

Budget (including currency): 1450$ USD

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: All Modern AAA titles

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor

MOBO: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory

STORAGE: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

GPU: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card

CASE: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case

PSU: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Targetted for 1440p 240hz gaming

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HmDTWt

 

Buying within 2 months from now

Still will need A mouse and keyboard, that will be a seperate budget and purchased later.

 

Notes: For that PSU i wanted to attempt to future proof a little just incase he wants todo big upgrades later. Thats why i went with a more expensive one

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($190.16 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($18.89 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($159.59 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($57.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($539.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1266.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-13 18:24 EDT-0400

[Forleb]

18 minutes ago, Mesarasi said:

Notes: For that PSU i wanted to attempt to future proof a little just incase he wants todo big upgrades later. Thats why i went with a more expensive one

The CPU is already a slight bottleneck in that configuration. If you want to make this upgradable, I would invest in a B650E / 7800X3D platform and settle on a weaker GPU for now; That should be enough to handle an RTX 5090 or similar when it drops.

[Mesarasi]

8 minutes ago, Forleb said:

The CPU is already a slight bottleneck in that configuration. If you want to make this upgradable, I would invest in a B650E / 7800X3D platform and settle on a weaker GPU for now; That should be enough to handle an RTX 5090 or similar when it drops.

Im newish to pc building. So may i ask why/how the CPU could bottleneck the GPU? Thanks

[Forleb]

7 minutes ago, Mesarasi said:

Im newish to pc building. So may i ask why/how the CPU could bottleneck the GPU? Thanks

Keeping the GPU at 100% is the goal for any gaming PC. As the resolution increases, performance becomes more bound by the GPU. 1440p is light enough that the CPU still makes a decent impact. For example, the 5600X would be best paired with an RX 6700 at 1080p, an RX 6800 at 1440p, and could technically be fine with an RX 7900 XT at 4K. This means that any GPU faster than the one placed at each of those resolutions would offer basically 0 gains, because the 5600X can't keep up past those points. Meanwhile, the 7800X3D can take full advantage of an RTX 4090 at 1080p.

[brob]

1 hour ago, Mesarasi said:

Budget (including currency): 1450$ USD

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: All Modern AAA titles

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor

MOBO: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory

STORAGE: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

GPU: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card

CASE: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case

PSU: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Targetted for 1440p 240hz gaming

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HmDTWt

 

Buying within 2 months from now

Still will need A mouse and keyboard, that will be a seperate budget and purchased later.

 

Notes: For that PSU i wanted to attempt to future proof a little just incase he wants todo big upgrades later. Thats why i went with a more expensive one

 

 

A good build, but I think you can do better.

 

Consider a newer platform with better performing CPU. I've added a CPU cooler that should improve cpu performance and keep noise down. Also suggested is an NVMe drive that has slightly better gaming performance. The GPU specs recommends a 750W PSU. The 850W I suggest is ATX 3.0 for future compatibility.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($247.97 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($37.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B760M-A WIFI Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($154.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($88.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($539.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1399.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-13 19:36 EDT-0400

[KaitouX]

51 minutes ago, Forleb said:

The CPU is already a slight bottleneck in that configuration. If you want to make this upgradable, I would invest in a B650E / 7800X3D platform and settle on a weaker GPU for now; That should be enough to handle an RTX 5090 or similar when it drops.

It makes no sense going for a 7800X3D now to buy a extremely expensive GPU after 2 years. There's a good chance a $200 CPU in two years will be faster than the 7800X3D, so they would have overpaid for nothing.

 

3 minutes ago, brob said:

PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($247.97 @ Newegg)

I would say the 12700KF for $220 or the 13600KF for $290 are better options.

[SorryBella]

5 hours ago, Mesarasi said:

1440p 240hz gaming

In this budget its pretty much hard to do beyond esports. This would guaranteed hit 1440p144hz though. You could compress to 6900 or 6950XT instead if you want to hit the 1450 firm.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($221.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.29 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($97.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($785.45 @ Amazon) 
Case: Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1489.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-14 00:10 EDT-0400

[Forleb]

On 8/13/2023 at 6:50 PM, KaitouX said:

There's a good chance a $200 CPU in two years will be faster than the 7800X3D, so they would have overpaid for nothing.

0% is not a good chance. The 7800X3D is going to stay relevant for 1440p into like 2030 at the rate Nvidia & AMD have been stagnating.

[brob]

15 minutes ago, Forleb said:

0% is not a good chance. The 7800X3D is going to stay relevant for 1440p into like 2030 at the rate Nvidia & AMD have been stagnating.

 

There is no magic in the 7800X3D. The 7900X already does better and I'm sure next year's X3D will relegate it to the budget bin.

[Forleb]

8 minutes ago, brob said:

 

There is no magic in the 7800X3D. The 7900X already does better and I'm sure next year's X3D will relegate it to the budget bin.

The 8800X3D is going to cost $500 and require $200 RAM to run optimally. The 7800X3D beats the 7900X and 7950X in every game except big simulations, while drawing literally half as much power or less. There must be some magic at play to suddenly convince everyone that the 7800X3D is a pushover for gaming.

[KaitouX]

1 hour ago, Forleb said:

0% is not a good chance. The 7800X3D is going to stay relevant for 1440p into like 2030 at the rate Nvidia & AMD have been stagnating.

Relevant doesn't mean faster than other options. As example the 5800X3D still is relevant, but it's slower than a 7600x in gaming, which costs $230. It isn't that hard to guess that there's a decent chance that the Zen 5 Ryzen 5 will be as fast as the 7800X3D, and that Intel will have a 15600K or 15400F as fast as that Ryzen 5 for a similar price.

 

The 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU on the market, but the same way it wouldn't have made sense to sacrifice GPU budget to go with a 5800X3D, it doesn't make sense to sacrifice now for the 7800X3D. There's even a good chance you could get a 7600x now, sell it after 2 or 3 years and get a 7800X3D or 8600x when they are actually needed (if needed) for the same money as getting a 7800X3D now. And during those 2 years you would've enjoyed a better GPU to top it off.

 

For me the 7800X3D only makes sense for gaming only builds that include at very least a 7900XTX or 4080 at a lower resolution or in some edge cases where cache is a lot more important than usual.

[Forleb]

21 hours ago, KaitouX said:

it doesn't make sense to sacrifice now for the 7800X3D.

On 8/13/2023 at 5:17 PM, Mesarasi said:

i wanted to attempt to future proof a little just incase he wants todo big upgrades later.

There is a difference between future proofing and upgradability. OP is going to need a 7800X3D or similar just to be in striking distance of 1440p 240Hz in a few years. So then comes the question, @Mesarasi: Is your priority that 1440p 240Hz target, or having less imbalance initially? There is no middle ground with this budget.