just want a fairly small phone with a good battery life

[atavax]

are there any phones that are like f it; we're going to put in a less powerful CPU but give you really good battery life?

[rocky54]

Just created an account for this topic to tell you that Samsung M51 exists! Its kinda old by now, but it has a battery that can last multiple days on end, and it has an OK CPU. The camera is fairly bad tho, at least compared to current gens.

[Studio755]

1 hour ago, atavax said:

are there any phones that are like f it; we're going to put in a less powerful CPU but give you really good battery life?

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html

[johnt]

What's the point of a less powerful CPU? Who wants a phone that takes longer to load websites or even using the interface bc the CPU is weak for battery life? It's going to last forever bc it's so frustrating to use that you're never going to use it lol

 

Do you have some special need for it to last multiple days? I have an iPhone 11 from work that is 2.5 years old, battery life is reported at 97%, and I only charge it once a week. I've deleted every single app that I can, I use the embedded controls to prevent my company apps from accessing cellular data, and I never connect using wifi lol (f you IT group). I basically use it as a means to answer calls, texts, and email. I use the focus settings to disable the Teams notifications during the work day since I am sitting in front of the computer. Idk I'm not trying to fan boy or say buy an Apple... I just think what you're looking for exists if you configure the phone properly. CPUs can scale their usage and use significantly less power when background processes are disabled and the number of apps you have is minimal.

 

I will say I don't think you can do this with a Samsung phone. My previous work phone was an S8 (and then S10), and those junk boxes NEVER did what I told them. I disable certain things and it would instantly be re-enabled. Maybe it was the settings my office controls on the phones, but for whatever reason, the Apple phone seems to let me give my IT group the middle finger.

[dizmo]

Without a budget you're not going to get much out of the post you've made.

You also haven't said what "really good battery life" is to you, or what you do most on your phone. Which will change the battery life immensely.

You also haven't said what a fairly small phone is to you.

 

40 minutes ago, Studio755 said:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html

That's a horrible website for battery life comparisons; GSMArena does a much better job.

12 minutes ago, johnt said:

What's the point of a less powerful CPU? Who wants a phone that takes longer to load websites or even using the interface bc the CPU is weak for battery life? It's going to last forever bc it's so frustrating to use that you're never going to use it lol

 

Do you have some special need for it to last multiple days? I have an iPhone 11 from work that is 2.5 years old, battery life is reported at 97%, and I only charge it once a week. I've deleted every single app that I can, I use the embedded controls to prevent my company apps from accessing cellular data, and I never connect using wifi lol (f you IT group). I basically use it as a means to answer calls, texts, and email. I use the focus settings to disable the Teams notifications during the work day since I am sitting in front of the computer. Idk I'm not trying to fan boy or say buy an Apple... I just think what you're looking for exists if you configure the phone properly. CPUs can scale their usage and use significantly less power when background processes are disabled and the number of apps you have is minimal.

 

I will say I don't think you can do this with a Samsung phone. My previous work phone was an S8 (and then S10), and those junk boxes NEVER did what I told them. I disable certain things and it would instantly be re-enabled. Maybe it was the settings my office controls on the phones, but for whatever reason, the Apple phone seems to let me give my IT group the middle finger.

That's a little extreme. If you drop town to a mid tier SoC, you're not going to have trouble loading web pages; they'll load at the same speed as they do on a flagship tier SoC. In day to day use, you won't even notice you're using a weaker SoC.

[johnt]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

In day to day use, you won't even notice you're using a weaker SoC.

You notice as time goes on. I exclusive used "low power" mode on my iPhone 12 Pro Max since I got it back in 2020. Back then it didn't seem to matter, but now it's noticeable when I disable it (so using normal power mode). The interface is snappier, it's more responsive to my inputs, and web pages do load noticeably faster in safari. But previously I couldn't tell the difference. I suspect the OS updates had something to do with that, plus the "battery aging" per the claims of the fruit company. I suspect these issues would be even more exaggerated with an SoC that was "weak" to begin with.

[atavax]

6 hours ago, dizmo said:

Without a budget you're not going to get much out of the post you've made.

You also haven't said what "really good battery life" is to you, or what you do most on your phone. Which will change the battery life immensely.

You also haven't said what a fairly small phone is to you.

 

That's a horrible website for battery life comparisons; GSMArena does a much better job.

That's a little extreme. If you drop town to a mid tier SoC, you're not going to have trouble loading web pages; they'll load at the same speed as they do on a flagship tier SoC. In day to day use, you won't even notice you're using a weaker SoC.

 

budget is $1200; i don't mind paying a little bit of a premium, but don't want to bush one of those ridiculous super high end phones.

I currently have a pixel 5 phone, so something not much bigger than that with a noticeably longer battery life.

what I do with it is web browse, use discord, watch videos, use it for directions on how to get somewhere.

[dizmo]

3 hours ago, atavax said:

 

budget is $1200; i don't mind paying a little bit of a premium, but don't want to bush one of those ridiculous super high end phones.

I currently have a pixel 5 phone, so something not much bigger than that with a noticeably longer battery life.

what I do with it is web browse, use discord, watch videos, use it for directions on how to get somewhere.

Pretty much your only option is the Zenfone 10.

[E-waste]

14 hours ago, johnt said:

What's the point of a less powerful CPU? Who wants a phone that takes longer to load websites or even using the interface bc the CPU is weak for battery life?

 

14 hours ago, dizmo said:

That's a little extreme. If you drop town to a mid tier SoC, you're not going to have trouble loading web pages; they'll load at the same speed as they do on a flagship tier SoC. In day to day use, you won't even notice you're using a weaker SoC.

Sony has great options, and you can use one of their devices from as far back as 2012 and unlock the bootloader, because their own website explains how to do it for each device.  You could use a small 4.3" Xperia Z compact (maybe) or 4.7" display Xperia compact Z1 foe a smaller device, put

 

https://lineageOS.org/

 

onto the device, and get the software up to date.  This could save you money buying a few years past device and help reduce electronic waste and the demand for new electronic devices.

 

If you want to speed up webpage loading, then don't load the 22 scripts /extra websites on most webpages, especially online businesses.

 

With a Chrome, Firefox or Edge addon like privacy badger from the EFF.org, or NoScript (select which websites / scripts do load) you can reduce webpage loading by over half!  Everyone who browses the web should give these addons a try, and, especially, they help prevent these tracking businesses from collecting data about your webpage visits across multiple websites.  It even works on Firefox mobile (and fennec from F-droid).

[atavax]

On 8/9/2023 at 10:43 AM, dizmo said:

Pretty much your only option is the Zenfone 10.

yeah, I was a bit hesitant of the zenfone 10 because I use Verizon and even the unlocked ones say they aren't compatible with Verizon. But after doing more research it sounds like the lack of CDMA support which is why it's not supposed to be compatible with Verizon is only an issue with Verizon's 3g; so if my area is using Verizon 4g, I should be fine?

 

i think my pixel 5's battery is about to die, less than an hour of web browsing usage and it's below 20%. So it's either risk it with the zenfone 10, suck it up with a bigger phone, like the pixel 7a; or try to replace my phone's battery which doesn't look particularly easy looking at a video on it.

[E-waste]

4 hours ago, atavax said:

less than an hour of web browsing usage and it's below 20%

Consider just buying a new battery vs replacing the entire device for no logical reason.

 

Do not charge above 75-80% anymore and do not drain anywhere below 30%.  In 2008, Elon Musk says the ideal range of Lithium Ion is between 40-60% charge.

 

Use a weak 1w usb charging cable which will take over 7 hours to charge the device, it should be fine overnight.

 

Install Firefox, unless android chrome allows addons.  Alternatively, Fennec, in F-droid store has about:config which could help reduce battery drain.

 

Addons like privacy badger from the EFF.org will allow you to disable any domain on a webpage, allowing faster page loads, less network use, and less cpu processing power getting loaded, which track you across any other website also using that service.

NoScript is another great option.

 

Install duckduckgo app and in the settings, enable

app tracking protection

 

This will show you which apps are collecting data and attempting to upload it, so you can pick better apps.

 

Consider installing LineageOS onto the device as Pixel devices are notorious for allowing custom software and very easy bootloader unlock.  Google will know when you do this though, because they send data when you go through the process.  It is a bit unsettling.  But once you get LineageOS, you also won't have all the android and google tracking on your device eating up your network.  Google knows exactly when you turn on your wifi, and exactly when you stop using the device, LineageOS doesn't have any of that.

 

If you think I'm exagerating, O.K., go download

RethinkDNS

 

and watch the dns log.  DNS is whenever a program requests a domain name / website.  That website must go to an IP address.  So most network activity starts with a dns request.