Ryzen 4500 Bottleneck RTX 3070?

[Skell3to]

Hello! I am upgrading my GPU to an RTX 3070 from an old GTX 1050 however I'm not sure how much I should worry about the CPU bottleneck. I have an Ryzen 4500 6core CPU. How much will the CPU be bottlenecked? I am looking forward to playing on an 1920x1080 FHD and on at least 120FPS. Thanks!

[Blqckqut]

5 minutes ago, Skell3to said:

Hello! I am upgrading my GPU to an RTX 3070 from an old GTX 1050 however I'm not sure how much I should worry about the CPU bottleneck. I have an Ryzen 4500 6core CPU. How much will the CPU be bottlenecked? I am looking forward to playing on an 1920x1080 FHD and on at least 120FPS. Thanks!

why a 3070 and not 6700xt?

[PcBeExpensive]

4 minutes ago, Skell3to said:

Hello! I am upgrading my GPU to an RTX 3070 from an old GTX 1050 however I'm not sure how much I should worry about the CPU bottleneck. I have an Ryzen 4500 6core CPU. How much will the CPU be bottlenecked? I am looking forward to playing on an 1920x1080 FHD and on at least 120FPS. Thanks!

3070 probably won't achieve 120 FPS on most games, also yes there will be a bottleneck but it doesnt not cause issues, it justs limits how well your GPU performs. 

[Skell3to]

10 minutes ago, Blqckqut said:

why a 3070 and not 6700xt?

I don't want to worry about gpu upgrades for a long while that's why I'm shooting for a high end one

[Skell3to]

9 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

3070 probably won't achieve 120 FPS on most games, also yes there will be a bottleneck but it doesnt not cause issues, it justs limits how well your GPU performs. 

Alright thanks! And, it won't? I saw benchmarks where the 3070 went over 200fps just alright

[PriitM]

7 minutes ago, Skell3to said:

Hello! I am upgrading my GPU to an RTX 3070 from an old GTX 1050 however I'm not sure how much I should worry about the CPU bottleneck. I have an Ryzen 4500 6core CPU. How much will the CPU be bottlenecked? I am looking forward to playing on an 1920x1080 FHD and on at least 120FPS. Thanks!

How much it will bottleneck? Impossible to grade that without knowing your games, your preferred detail level etc.

1080p for 120FPS is doable on the 3070, at most you will see some asset loading issue (decompression, data fetch-pass through). Unless you know what to look for, Id wager you would have no idea what causes the low performance. 

Ryzen 4500 is a lower mid-tier CPU on the PCI-e 3.0 bus. No resizable BAR, no direct access anything. 3070 is for sure much better than a 1050, but dont get your hopes up for a miracle.

[Blqckqut]

6 minutes ago, Skell3to said:

I don't want to worry about gpu upgrades for a long while that's why I'm shooting for a high end one

6700xt zill go way longer than 3070

its more powerfull and has 4gb more vram

its litteraly in all aspects except ray tracing better

its better brother, 6750xt, for only 20-50 bucks more sometimes beats the 3070 ti

[Skell3to]

2 minutes ago, Blqckqut said:

6700xt zill go way longer than 3070

its more powerfull and has 4gb more vram

its litteraly in all aspects except ray tracing better

its better brother, 6750xt, for only 20-50 bucks more sometimes beats the 3070 ti

Thanks for the recommendation but I'm already going with the rtx 3070, I'm more familiar with the driver installation and I have very bad Experience with Radeon GPU's

[Blqckqut]

Just now, Skell3to said:

Thanks for the recommendation but I'm already going with the rtx 3070, I'm more familiar with the driver installation and I have very bad Experience with Radeon GPU's

yea probably gpus from 10 years ago

 

for the price of a 3070 u can get a 6800xt wich is equivalent to 3080

 

trust me 3070 is not worth it anymore, neither is it high end anymore

[PDifolco]

4 minutes ago, Blqckqut said:

6700xt zill go way longer than 3070

its more powerfull and has 4gb more vram

its litteraly in all aspects except ray tracing better

its better brother, 6750xt, for only 20-50 bucks more sometimes beats the 3070 ti

Agreed, I wouldn't call a 3070 a "high end card" at all, it's a good 1080p card capable of 1440p but with possible VRAM issues then...

[Blqckqut]

1 minute ago, PDifolco said:

Agreed, I wouldn't call a 3070 a "high end card" at all, it's a good 1080p card capable of 1440p but with possible VRAM issues then...

indeed

id say any games dating back to 2021 will have vram issues on anything higher than low settings if it was made by an AAA studio

 

also, you may think vram issues arent serius, they are, they really are, they can make your entire system lag and freeze if you alt tab for up to a minute (was that bad with me once) qnd the world of the game will not even render in half the time

 

are you really wanting to spend more money on a way worse deal because you are somewhat more acustomed to interface? (always owned nvidia btw, recently switched to amd and the drivers and software is WAYYY more user friendly)

 

if you want longevity, amd is the way to go, nvidia is the apple of hardware, they do not like consumers.

[Alinz]

29 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

3070 probably won't achieve 120 FPS on most games, also yes there will be a bottleneck but it doesnt not cause issues, it justs limits how well your GPU performs. 

the 3070 will hit 120+ FPS in the fast majority of games at 1080P, sure new(er) AAA games might not hit that mark (or potential VRAM issues) but the majority will. (even did that for me at 1440P) 

 

2 minutes ago, Blqckqut said:

are you really wanting to spend more money on a way worse deal because you are somewhat more acustomed to interface? (always owned nvidia btw, recently switched to amd and the drivers and software is WAYYY more user friendly)

I guess there is no point trying to convince someone who has already made up their mind. Especially if said person has had a bad experience with AMD cards before.

[Skell3to]

Well I'm considering it lol GTX 1050 is the only card I had from them and never had any issues, but if the VRAM issues are that bad on the newer versions I guess I should really go for the Radeon and give it another chance. Just worried it will perform worse that's all.

[Skell3to]

I'm looking on the SAPPHIRE nitro+ RX 6750 XT Gaming OC , It seems decent and has the same recommended wattage as the 3070 cause I already picked a PSU. What's y'all thoughts on this one?

[PDifolco]

Just now, Skell3to said:

Well I'm considering it lol GTX 1050 is the only card I had from them and never had any issues, but if the VRAM issues are that bad on the newer versions I guess I should really go for the Radeon and give it another chance. Just worried it will perform worse that's all.

What's your budget exactly ? Really I think the best "hi end" card that can last long is the 6800XT,for $50 more than a 3070 at $500

+25% performance

*double* VRAM !!

 

 

 

[Skell3to]

4 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

What's your budget exactly ? Really I think the best "hi end" card that can last long is the 6800XT,for $50 more than a 3070 at $500

+25% performance

*double* VRAM !!

 

 

 

My budget is currently 560$ and the RX 6800 doesn't fit that

[PriitM]

10 minutes ago, Skell3to said:

Well I'm considering it lol GTX 1050 is the only card I had from them and never had any issues, but if the VRAM issues are that bad on the newer versions I guess I should really go for the Radeon and give it another chance. Just worried it will perform worse that's all.

As a daily driver of R9 390X for 7 years, the 7900XTX i bought this february with January drivers have given me much less headache than old drivers. Games that dont have direct support anymore have little glitches but all run so far with little to no headaches

[Skell3to]

I'm most likely going with the 6750XT I don't see myself playing new AAA games at ultra so I think this one will do just alright, unless?

[PriitM]

5 minutes ago, Skell3to said:

I'm most likely going with the 6750XT I don't see myself playing new AAA games at ultra so I think this one will do just alright, unless?

Its a decent investment for the next 3-4 years minimum and will work good with a CPU upgrade since its PCI-e 4.0. Plus, it will hold value much better down the line.

[SorryBella]

15 minutes ago, Skell3to said:

My budget is currently 560$ and the RX 6800 doesn't fit that

Yeah, agreed. Find the cheapest 6700XT or 6750XT you can find and then slap a 5500 or 5600 CPU upgrade alongside that. Itll be a pretty superb 1080p machine for a while. Im personally running 5500 6700XT combo right now and playing Fortnite with a pretty competitive settings at consistent 144fps.

[Skell3to]

Alright, but will it run about good with the current CPU? which is ryzen 5 4500

2 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Yeah, agreed. Find the cheapest 6700XT or 6750XT you can find and then slap a 5500 or 5600 CPU upgrade alongside that. Itll be a pretty superb 1080p machine for a while. Im personally running 5500 6700XT combo right now and playing Fortnite with a pretty competitive settings at consistent 144fps.

 

[SorryBella]

1 minute ago, Skell3to said:

Alright, but will it run about good with the current CPU? which is ryzen 5 4500

Its essentially an even worse Ryzen 5 3600. Itll be fine right now but at 1080p you'll want the CPU upgrade now rather than soon.

[Skell3to]

5 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Its essentially an even worse Ryzen 5 3600. Itll be fine right now but at 1080p you'll want the CPU upgrade now rather than soon.

Alright thanks! So I should get the ryzen 5600x with it?

[SorryBella]

Just now, Skell3to said:

Alright thanks! So I should get the ryzen 5600 with it?

If you can squeeze the budget. If not, then keep the money and save up for 5800X3D or other even newer CPUs later on.

[Skell3to]

6 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

If you can squeeze the budget. If not, then keep the money and save up for 5800X3D or other even newer CPUs later on.

Alright will do. Thanks!