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MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX [BIOS Question]

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57 minutes ago, Waqas409 said:

Right now my bios is 1 step lower from where they support the 5000 CPUs.

What if right now i upgrade my Bios to the latest, will my current CPU which is ryzen 5 3600 works or after the latest bios i need a 5xxx CPU?

Please confirm.

Thanks 

PS: i have read somewhere that if i do the latest bios, i will not be able to used the 3xxx gen ryzen CPUs eg: ryzen 5 3600 

It will work just fine. Tomahawk Max does not loose CPU support with Bios updates. And even if it did, like some other boards with small EEPROM, it would loose only the support for the oldest/weakest models like the Athlon GE or the non-Ryzen AM4 CPU-s.

Right now my bios is 1 step lower from where they support the 5000 CPUs.

What if right now i upgrade my Bios to the latest, will my current CPU which is ryzen 5 3600 works or after the latest bios i need a 5xxx CPU?

Please confirm.

Thanks 

PS: i have read somewhere that if i do the latest bios, i will not be able to used the 3xxx gen ryzen CPUs eg: ryzen 5 3600 

Ryzen 5 3600 | MSI B450 Tomahawk Max | Corsair Vengeance lpx 32gb 3600mhz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING | XPG Core Reactor 850w

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3 minutes ago, Waqas409 said:

Right now my bios is 1 step lower from where they support the 5000 CPUs.

What if right now i upgrade my Bios to the latest, will my current CPU which is ryzen 5 3600 works or after the latest bios i need a 5xxx CPU?

Please confirm.

Thanks 

PS: i have read somewhere that if i do the latest bios, i will not be able to used the 3xxx gen ryzen CPUs eg: ryzen 5 3600 

I think you are talking about certain CPUs no longer being supported when upgrading BIOS to support 5000 series CPUs due to the EEPROM limitation. This only impacted motherboard using 16MB or 128Mb BIOS chips. 

 

Your motherboard is not affected by this limitation and a BIOS upgrade will be fine (Due to it using a 32MB chip).

 

MAX motherboard + 32MB BIOS > https://www.techpowerup.com/257485/msi-max-am4-boards-real-32mb-bios-roms-and-ryzen-3000-out-of-the-box-support

 

AM4 BIOS limitation > https://www.anandtech.com/show/12971/amd-bios-limitations-bristol-ridge-dropped-from-certain-motherboards

 

Not related but you can view CPU support and the BIOS version they're supported from > https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX/support#cpu

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40 minutes ago, JenjerBread said:

I think you are talking about certain CPUs no longer being supported when upgrading BIOS to support 5000 series CPUs due to the EEPROM limitation. This only impacted motherboard using 16MB or 128Mb BIOS chips. 

 

Your motherboard is not affected by this limitation and a BIOS upgrade will be fine (Due to it using a 32MB chip).

 

MAX motherboard + 32MB BIOS > https://www.techpowerup.com/257485/msi-max-am4-boards-real-32mb-bios-roms-and-ryzen-3000-out-of-the-box-support

 

AM4 BIOS limitation > https://www.anandtech.com/show/12971/amd-bios-limitations-bristol-ridge-dropped-from-certain-motherboards

 

Not related but you can view CPU support and the BIOS version they're supported from > https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX/support#cpu

So it means.
If i upgrade the bios of MSI B450 Tomahawk Max to Latest one.
Can i use the following CPUs when required, Anytime, plug in and go? 

1. AMD Ryzen 7 2700
2. AMD Ryzen 5 3600
3. AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
 

Ryzen 5 3600 | MSI B450 Tomahawk Max | Corsair Vengeance lpx 32gb 3600mhz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING | XPG Core Reactor 850w

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57 minutes ago, Waqas409 said:

Right now my bios is 1 step lower from where they support the 5000 CPUs.

What if right now i upgrade my Bios to the latest, will my current CPU which is ryzen 5 3600 works or after the latest bios i need a 5xxx CPU?

Please confirm.

Thanks 

PS: i have read somewhere that if i do the latest bios, i will not be able to used the 3xxx gen ryzen CPUs eg: ryzen 5 3600 

It will work just fine. Tomahawk Max does not loose CPU support with Bios updates. And even if it did, like some other boards with small EEPROM, it would loose only the support for the oldest/weakest models like the Athlon GE or the non-Ryzen AM4 CPU-s.

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2 minutes ago, Waqas409 said:

So it means.
If i upgrade the bios of MSI B450 Tomahawk Max to Latest one.
Can i use the following CPUs when required, Anytime, plug in and go? 

1. AMD Ryzen 7 2700
2. AMD Ryzen 5 3600
3. AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
 

Yes.

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  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
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3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

It will work just fine. Tomahawk Max does not loose CPU support with Bios updates. And even if it did, like some other boards with small EEPROM, it would loose only the support for the oldest/weakest models like the Athlon GE or the non-Ryzen AM4 CPU-s.

I see thank you. 
 

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