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Will my 5600x bottleneck significantly my upcoming 4070? Details inside. Thinking on 5800X3D or wait longer to go full AM5/DDR6

My display: 144hz 1440p. 

My games: Nothing FPS, easy-to-run indie games, or big AAA Open World RPG like Witcher III, Cyberpunk, Elden Ring. 

 

Since I wanted an upgrade in the GPU department and the 4070 means I can keep using my PSU, mobo, and CPU, I decided to upgrade now. My question is, what will be better, to upgrade in the near future to a 5800X3D so I don't leave performance on the table, to wait for a little longer (probably a year or so) to go AM5 with DDR6, or keep using the 5600X until I go AM5? 

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27 minutes ago, OuterGodHermit said:

My display: 144hz 1440p. 

My games: Nothing FPS, easy-to-run indie games, or big AAA Open World RPG like Witcher III, Cyberpunk, Elden Ring. 

 

Since I wanted an upgrade in the GPU department and the 4070 means I can keep using my PSU, mobo, and CPU, I decided to upgrade now. My question is, what will be better, to upgrade in the near future to a 5800X3D so I don't leave performance on the table, to wait for a little longer (probably a year or so) to go AM5 with DDR6, or keep using the 5600X until I go AM5? 

i would go with the 5800x3d

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58 minutes ago, OuterGodHermit said:

My display: 144hz 1440p. 

My games: Nothing FPS, easy-to-run indie games, or big AAA Open World RPG like Witcher III, Cyberpunk, Elden Ring. 

 

Since I wanted an upgrade in the GPU department and the 4070 means I can keep using my PSU, mobo, and CPU, I decided to upgrade now. My question is, what will be better, to upgrade in the near future to a 5800X3D so I don't leave performance on the table, to wait for a little longer (probably a year or so) to go AM5 with DDR6, or keep using the 5600X until I go AM5? 

You can go with an AMD GPU in the performance range and not have to worry about the Nvidia driver overhead needing a 20% stronger CPU to power a GPU in the same performance range. And you get additional vRAM.

That way, since you're using 1440p, the 5600X would be fine probably for the next few years.

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As a 5600X owner with a RTX 3080 @ 1440p/165 Hz, I have yet to encounter anything near CPU bottleneck - Even with a simulation game (Jurassic World Evo 2).

 

I don't recall your types of games being CPU bound for 1440p in benchmarks, though someone who has played them can correct me if I'm wrong. Simulation games like MS Flight Sim and F1 are more likely to be CPU bound.

 

I personally would wait longer to go with AM5. ~$450 upgrade to stay on AM4 a bit longer via 5800X3D with no noticible performance boost for a few years until some new game becomes CPU bound seems silly and mentally would keep you from wanting to go to DDR5 & AM5 sooner.

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Well i was in that pool as well - upgraded a 5600X to 5800X3D before the paste even had time to settle in. Worth every single cent. The performance uplift was huge even with my old GTX 1070. As for AM5, i'd suggest waiting for 2nd or 3rd generation before going that route. This is when the platform matures and becomes stable and brings proper uplifts.

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Why not just install the new GPU to the system, and then monitor the usages on games you play. If there's a problem you can think about upgrading the other parts of the system as needed.

 

I'm personally running 4070TI with 3700x at 1440p, and haven't had any problems.

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5 hours ago, QuantumSingularity said:

Well i was in that pool as well - upgraded a 5600X to 5800X3D before the paste even had time to settle in. Worth every single cent. The performance uplift was huge even with my old GTX 1070. As for AM5, i'd suggest waiting for 2nd or 3rd generation before going that route. This is when the platform matures and becomes stable and brings proper uplifts.

I call BS.

 

Who the hell has a GTX 1070 and decides to spend their money on upgrading the CPU instead of the GPU...

 

You won't even come close to a CPU bottleneck with a 4070. And on that note, for the love of God, do not buy a 4070. Get yourself a 6950XT for that money.

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11 minutes ago, bramturismo said:

I call BS.

 

Who the hell has a GTX 1070 and decides to spend their money on upgrading the CPU instead of the GPU...

 

You won't even come close to a CPU bottleneck with a 4070. And on that note, for the love of God, do not buy a 4070. Get yourself a 6950XT for that money.

Back then GPUs were still overpriced AF. RX 7000 and RTX 4000 weren't even launched yet. The cheapest meaningful upgrade over a 1070 was at least €1200. Plus i got awesome deal on the CPU and got it for just $299. When i sold the 5600X i got back $200. Who wouldn't do that upgrade for basically just $99?? But as i said - even with the GTX 1070 running on FSR at 1440p i still got MAJOR uplifts. In some cases DOUBLE the frames from before.

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